Godzilla's Entrance in GvsMG

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Re: Godzilla's Entrance in GvsMG

Postby Mincecraft » Sun Jul 01, 2012 10:13 am

I think I heard it in the youtube fan film Godzilla X The Kaiju Killer (an excellent film). The secondary villain Mugal (isnt that a villain in GvsMG?) resembles them and he is called Simian. Also, wikipedia calls them that (but thats just wiki).
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Re: Godzilla's Entrance in GvsMG

Postby Tyler » Sun Jul 01, 2012 10:56 am

Aren't they called Simians in comics?
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Re: Godzilla's Entrance in GvsMG

Postby wrongnote85 » Sun Jul 01, 2012 11:25 am

that is my favorite moment in the entire franchise.
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Re: Godzilla's Entrance in GvsMG

Postby Carthormerr » Sun Jul 01, 2012 11:35 am

Legion1979 wrote:
Mincecraft wrote:Its a name Ive heard for the Black Hole Aliens, MechaGs makers.


Better put down the G-Fan, my friend. That name isn't official in any way. I have no idea why people keep using it.


What's the biggg deal? The name is pretty fitting, since they are uhh... simian
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Re: Godzilla's Entrance in GvsMG

Postby CTHimes » Sun Jul 01, 2012 12:51 pm

Mincecraft wrote:Also, wikipedia calls them that (but thats just wiki).


Yes, and the Wiki entry for King Ghidorah calls the aliens in MONSTER ZERO the "Xians," which is another unofficial name that was adopted by G-Fan and other publications in the 90s but fell out of use when Toho made GFW.

They're "Black Hole Aliens," or if you prefer a longer name, "Aliens from the Third Planet of the Black Hole, Outer Space." It's a lot easier to type "Simians," but that doesn't mean it's what they really are.

Carthormerr wrote:What's the biggg deal? The name is pretty fitting, since they are uhh... simian


Because that's the same thing as calling King Caesar, "Big Dog-Looking Thing" or "Azumi Guardian Monster." Both are fitting names, but they're not the correct ones.
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Re: Godzilla's Entrance in GvsMG

Postby Mincecraft » Sun Jul 01, 2012 12:54 pm

Ok ignore me. BACK ON TOPIC :roll:
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Re: Godzilla's Entrance in GvsMG

Postby Carthormerr » Sun Jul 01, 2012 4:44 pm

Black hole simians
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Re: Godzilla's Entrance in GvsMG

Postby Legion1979 » Sun Jul 01, 2012 4:44 pm

Carthormerr wrote:Black hole simians


Ok and...?
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Re: Godzilla's Entrance in GvsMG

Postby Carthormerr » Sun Jul 01, 2012 4:50 pm

Legion1979 wrote:
Carthormerr wrote:Black hole simians


Ok and...?


Your mother is a black hole simian :lol:
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Re: Godzilla's Entrance in GvsMG

Postby Tamura » Sun Jul 01, 2012 5:14 pm

Careful there... you might rustle his jimmies.
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Re: Godzilla's Entrance in GvsMG

Postby Legion1979 » Sun Jul 01, 2012 5:16 pm

Carthormerr wrote:
Legion1979 wrote:
Carthormerr wrote:Black hole simians


Ok and...?


Your mother is a black hole simian :lol:


My mother is dead.
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Re: Godzilla's Entrance in GvsMG

Postby Mincecraft » Sun Jul 01, 2012 5:18 pm

Oh Shit :shock:

Someone better watch themselves.
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Re: Godzilla's Entrance in GvsMG

Postby Carthormerr » Sun Jul 01, 2012 5:24 pm

Legion1979 wrote:My mother is dead.


Sorry to hear that if it's true.
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Re: Godzilla's Entrance in GvsMG

Postby SuperSaiyan4Godzilla » Sun Jul 01, 2012 5:24 pm

Legion1979 wrote:
Carthormerr wrote:
Your mother is a black hole simian :lol:


My mother is dead.
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Re: Godzilla's Entrance in GvsMG

Postby Tyler » Sun Jul 01, 2012 7:29 pm

Carthormerr wrote:What's the biggg deal? The name is pretty fitting, since they are uhh... simian


Well in the first Mechagodzilla film at least. In the second they have melted faces.

I thought it was odd how they're shapeshifting mutants in Godzilla Legends #3 yet called Simians.
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Re: Godzilla's Entrance in GvsMG

Postby Ethan » Mon Jul 02, 2012 8:42 am

There's nothing wrong about custom nicknames. As long as they're considered as such.
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Re: Godzilla's Entrance in GvsMG

Postby Carthormerr » Mon Jul 02, 2012 9:45 am

Tyler wrote:Well in the first Mechagodzilla film at least. In the second they have melted faces.

I thought it was odd how they're shapeshifting mutants in Godzilla Legends #3 yet called Simians.


Maybe in TOM Toho just didn't want to spend as much on props. If they are shapeshifters, it doesn't look like they are very good at it just looking at them in GvMG & TOM
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Re: Godzilla's Entrance in GvsMG

Postby Goji » Mon Jul 02, 2012 9:51 am

Carthormerr wrote: Maybe in TOM Toho just didn't want to spend as much on props. If they are shapeshifters, it doesn't look like they are very good at it just looking at them in GvMG & TOM


I doubt that was the issue. It probably had something to do with Honda, or Nakako not being satisfied with the look of the Black Hole Aliens in 1974, and wanted to try something different.

There isn't anything to suggest that they are "shape shifters". There is simpy no in-universe explanation for why they look different in both films.
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Re: Godzilla's Entrance in GvsMG

Postby Mincecraft » Mon Jul 02, 2012 10:23 am

Oh man, were still going on about that? Im amazed I caused this debate. (Not that that's bad. :angel: )
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Re: Godzilla's Entrance in GvsMG

Postby Carthormerr » Mon Jul 02, 2012 2:07 pm

Goji wrote:I doubt that was the issue. It probably had something to do with Honda, or Nakako not being satisfied with the look of the Black Hole Aliens in 1974, and wanted to try something different.

There isn't anything to suggest that they are "shape shifters". There is simpy no in-universe explanation for why they look different in both films.


Maybe that's how they should have looked in the first place. My initial thought with the ape look was due to all of the Planet of the Apes movies that had been made recently before that.... Assuming Toho wanted to capitalize on their popularity at the time, and hoping it would spill over for their movie
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