Anguirus' Change of Heart

[skuzzy-punk-kid]

Darn it! You guys beat me to it, lol.

[Rody]

I take it you intended to do a thread about this?

[Giga Kaiju]

There are two Anguirus instead of the same one. Since the original died but if he managed to survive then i dont think he would of
just forget of the beating he got in GRA and be pals with Godzilla. Thats my theory.

[skuzzy-punk-kid]

I take it you intended to do a thread about this?

No, I intended to comment, but I see little point in repeating the same answer that's been said 700 times already (exaggerated number, by the way). Still, I can always step back and observe.

[JVM]

I still think it would've been nice if someone came up with an amusing fan explanation I was well aware it was considered a different Anguirus.

[skuzzy-punk-kid]

I still think it would've been nice if someone came up with an amusing fan explanation I was well aware it was considered a different Anguirus.

Well, that's gonna take a little more effort on my part. Give me a few days and I might come up with something, lol.

[GodzillaRangerPrime]

It could be either one. There never really was an explanation. I think it's the same one though. If Anguiras can survive being dropped thousands of feet , he can survive a little burns, and throat ripping.

The Angilas from Godzilla Raids Again is not the same one from Destroy all Monsters. That's the official word from Toho. Which means what the second Angilas could survive has no bearing on what the first one could survive. The Angilas from GRA got his neck chewed on (where is everyone getting that his throat was "ripped out"), was set on fire and stopped moving. He died. The point was to show that Godzilla killed him and this is acknowledged in the movie.

Please stop trying so hard to make everything fit.

dude, chill... its just for fun... it doesnt hurt anybody... if you dont care for the idea of continuity... leave the thread alone...

This is how i think the "species idea works...

4 godzillas: Godzilla 54 died, the new one raised in 55 and died in Son of Godzilla, Minilla from SoG became Godzilla in DAM and the minilla in DAM is an all new G in the making...

2 anguirus': 55 and the one from the rest of the showa series...

3 rodans: The first 2 died. maybe there was one more egg we didnt see...

2 Mandas: Maybe the 2 are different genders, DAM (Female) and Atragon (male)

Kumonga: i cant say anything... i havent seen SoG in a LONG TIME

1 Gorosaurus: The one from KKEs jaw healed

Kamacuras: ALOT, maybe theres a nest on Monster Island

Varan: i never saw varan so i dont know...

2 Baragons: The one from FCTW had its neck broken, unlike goro that wont heal easily...

Mothra: A good few... id count but im too lazy...

2 kongs: There is a good difference in size between the 2 toho kongs...

Woah, I like that theory O:

[GodzillaSpawn]

Is there really that many Mothras?

We have the one who turned into an adult in "Mothra", who then fought Godzilla and died in 1964's "Mothra vs. Godzilla", but then two hatched. So there were three, now two. One died presumably after the battle with Godzilla, so now there is just one (but still the third altogether) in "Ghidrah the three-headed monster". By the time we see him again, he seems to be an adult, in "Godzilla vs the Sea Monster", and Godzilla apparently tries to tussle with him again (though not nearly as violently), though we never are confirmed that it is the same Mothra--just my assumption. Then, even though I don't think they outright say Sea Monster takes place in a particular year, we don't know how much longer "Destroy All Monsters" is afterwards, but there is a clear larval in there. It could have been a whole lineage of Mothras from the Sea Monster one.

But there were atleast four that were introduced to us during the Showa series.

[Reaper Man]

There isn't that much continuity in the Showa series. Godzilla Raids Again is a sequel to Godzilla, Ghidorah is a sequel to Mothra vs Godzilla, Godzilla vs Megalon is a sequel to Godzilla vs Gigan, Terror of Mechagodzilla is a sequel to Godzilla vs Mechagodzilla. Other than that, they have very little to do with each other, apart from Godzilla and occasional recurring monsters.

[GodzillaSpawn]

But can't there be? Godzilla gets trapped by ice at the end of GRA, comes out of an ice cube in KKvG.

Like you said, Mothra, Mothra vs. Godzilla, Ghidrah, and Astro Monster are continuos.

Godzilla vs. Gigan and Godzilla Megalon are as well, and probably Godzilla vs. Mecha Godzilla and Terror of MechaGodzilla because they not only acknowledge in the film that Anguirus and Godzilla are buddies, probably from Godzilla vs. Gigan (since Destroy All Monsters hasn't actually occurred yet), but also are aware of Ghidorah so that probably connects those films to the Ghidrah/Monster Zero films (and thus Mothra as well lol).

That really only leaves out Sea Monster, Hedorah, and Son of Godzilla--which can or can not be thrown in to the continuity.

lol wheww.

[NSZ]

That really only leaves out Sea Monster, Hedorah, and Son of Godzilla--which can or can not be thrown in to the continuity.

Gigan shows Kumonga, Kamacuras, and Minilla as residents of Monster Island.

More continuity!

[Tyler]

Gigan also shows a Mothra larvae which I would assume to be same one in DAM.

[miguelnuva]

Why does everyone say the Showa series has a bad continuity, they mention previous films and further movies don't overwrite other moves, while not as tight as the Heisei continuity the showa series does have a good one.

[Cimmerian Dragon]

^ Because people like to nitpick and bitch.

Look at the debates about whether Mothra and Mothra Vs. Godzilla are in continuity. So Mothra is a different size, so what? The characters in the latter picture are obviously familiar with her from a previous encounter. Are they recalling the events of Mothra, as the film's contemporary audience would? Or does that size difference mean that Toho was knowingly separating the continuities of the two characters that they had just decided to bring together in one film? Look at the discrepency between the locations where Mechagodzilla is originally destroyed, and where they're searching for him in Terror of Mechagodzilla. Are we now going to declare that it's impossible to get over it and consider the '75 film a proper sequel? I hope not.

Most of the films don't step on each others toes in any big way. Anguirus comes back after he died? So what? It's another one. Gorosaurus is from a non-continuity Kong film? So what? This just means that there's one in this continuity as well. It's called imagination...fill in the damn blanks in any way that works for you.

Does it really matter if we don't know every single answer to every single question? Is an inconsistency in the details between one film and the next enough to declare that the continuity is screwed forever after? I don't think so.

[JVM]

This thread is two skreeonk years old. Calm your asses.

[GodzillaRangerPrime]

That doesn't matter

Then people are gonna keep making new threads of the same topic over and over again

What's the point of locking this thread?

[JVM]

That doesn't matter

Then people are gonna keep making new threads of the same topic over and over again

What's the point of locking this thread?

I don't think there's going to be more than one or two more threads about the issue of Anguirus' change of heart.

[Gojira1963]

The creators of the Showa Godzilla films did not plan for films to be intertwined. There is no true canon, merely obsessive theories.

I think you're mistaking canon for continuity. Canon is just the official body of work so all that we see on screen is the Canon of the Godzilla Franchise. There just may not be a lot of continuity between the films.

[Tyler]

Because it's been two years and people keep bumping this damn thread.

Uh oh JVM's going through another of his phases.