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What I do find funny is that in certain places of the internet there has been a JP3 defense force emerging.
Wait
That movie has things that can be defended?
I liked the aviary sequence, but that's it really
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gottatalktothefake wrote:I really love JW but I detest JWFK. I’d rank it down there with JP3.

What I do find funny is that in certain places of the internet there has been a JP3 defense force emerging.
Jw and Jwfk are both big stupid b movies that are a lot of good fun and I love them for that. Frankly its nice to see blue sorta become a action hero in her own right. Hopefully they go full magically dumb and just give us the dinosaurs in the army they been teasing us with.

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Rhedosaurus wrote:Because at this point, the JP has taken a massive turn for the worse. I'd like to see some non-JP dinosaur movies.

While I agree that I would like to see more Non-JP Dinosaur movies come to the big screen and actually be good. (Dino-Riders looking at you) but it's rare any studio will invest the kind of budget in a non-recognizable IP.

An Jurassic park had no where else to go honestly, so I enjoy the direction they have gone. Fallen Kingdom had it's issues, but I am fine on where the film ended.
They could've left it at JP3. Now it's just getting dumber and dumber.
Eh, I'd rather they risk running a franchise into the ground and at least getting some fun dino scenes out of it than just leaving it. Leaving a franchise just feels kind of wasteful. Yeah they could have left it at three, but then those of us who enjoyed the new movies would have less JP movies to enjoy. I'd rather JP go the direct to video films route like the Tremors series than have it just die off for a couple decades.
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Rhedosaurus wrote:Because at this point, the JP has taken a massive turn for the worse. I'd like to see some non-JP dinosaur movies.

While I agree that I would like to see more Non-JP Dinosaur movies come to the big screen and actually be good. (Dino-Riders looking at you) but it's rare any studio will invest the kind of budget in a non-recognizable IP.

An Jurassic park had no where else to go honestly, so I enjoy the direction they have gone. Fallen Kingdom had it's issues, but I am fine on where the film ended.
I'd still like to know how they plan to explain how the dinosaurs don't get wiped out by the National Guard within 6 months of escaping. I'm sorry, but simply believing that mankind is incapable of wiping out the dinosaurs is laughable. Even more so considering he man wipes out animals with ease.

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Gojira18 wrote:They could've left it at JP3. Now it's just getting dumber and dumber.
No. It should have ended with TLW. JP3 was mainly made for the sake of a JP trilogy and it clearly shows.

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keizerkaiju wrote:Eh, nothing's worse than JP3 IMO, let alone dumber (it's like everyone forgot about the phone in dinosaur poop, the raptor whistle, Grant's dream..."ALAN!"...I could go on all day). The World movies aren't perfect but I've enjoyed them quite a lot.
Fallen Kingdom makes JP3 look like a Masterpiece. Say what you want about "Alan", but the dumbass characters and choices in FK blow JP3 out of the water.
JP3 at least has a mostly solid 3rd act. JW:FK has nothing.
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I love the Prequels, personally, but I fully admit that nostalgia is a massive part of that, and will acknowledge their flaws all day. One thing I definitely feel like they have over the Sequels, though, is a sense of sincerity and actual Star Wars-ishness. They don't feel like artificial assembly line products.

I need to see JWFK again before I can really judge it, but I feel like the hate is probably exaggerated a bit. What's supposed to be wrong with the auction sequence, for example? I think that is absolutely something that could happen were a supply of hard-to-obtain cloned dinosaurs to suddenly materialize under the authorities' nose. Look how big an issue trafficking of familiar, everyday modern animals is, you know?
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The problem people have with the auction is actual dinosaurs, the last of their kind, go for about a million each, which is chump change in perspective with the scale of the operation, how much stuff usually costs in auctions like this, and other stuff.

I have my reasons why they did it but it is still kinda stupid
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Low prices is sort of a minor complaint, though, isn't it? That could easily be chalked up to the morons running the auction being, well, morons.
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Tbh the "Dinosaurs will leave the island and repopulate the world" twist was something that I already suspected would happen from the moment JW was announced.

Althought it is pretty stupid that is somehow considered an apocalyptic event.
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Well, it has to be remembered that several dinosaurs were taken by the sketchy rich people, too, so who knows what could come of that. In the short term, thirty or so dinosaurs running around California is no apocalypse, obviously. But in the long term, real problems could theoretically come from the sudden semi-public availability of dinosaur DNA. We'll just have to see how JW3 plays it.
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JAGzilla wrote:Low prices is sort of a minor complaint, though, isn't it? That could easily be chalked up to the morons running the auction being, well, morons.
yeah, totally. Like a lot of the problems people have with FK, I understand why people dont like it but it doesn't bother me
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JAGzilla wrote:I love the Prequels, personally, but I fully admit that nostalgia is a massive part of that, and will acknowledge their flaws all day. One thing I definitely feel like they have over the Sequels, though, is a sense of sincerity and actual Star Wars-ishness. They don't feel like artificial assembly line products.
Completely agree, not one sequel feels like a SW film. Each one feels like a drained husk of an industry film with repeated concepts, weak elements, and pretty camera angles.
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I think the JW films (and mind you I really enjoyed both) have a similar issue to the prequels. They have good ideas but fail in execution.
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I was actually surprised by the response to JWFK. I really enjoyed it. Other than those extremely annoying side protagonists. The kid I thought had a tragic backstory, R.I.P. Isla Nublar and Brachiosaurus from JP1, the Indoraptor was wicked and intelligent which made for a pretty suspenseful 3rd act, even though we know protagonists don't die in these films anymore due to plot armor. I would've preferred a classic horror style JP, but since they've hit the FnF $$$ big leagues I doubt they'll ever go back to their roots.
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While I agree that I would like to see more Non-JP Dinosaur movies come to the big screen and actually be good. (Dino-Riders looking at you) but it's rare any studio will invest the kind of budget in a non-recognizable IP.

An Jurassic park had no where else to go honestly, so I enjoy the direction they have gone. Fallen Kingdom had it's issues, but I am fine on where the film ended.
They could've left it at JP3. Now it's just getting dumber and dumber.
Eh, I'd rather they risk running a franchise into the ground and at least getting some fun dino scenes out of it than just leaving it. Leaving a franchise just feels kind of wasteful. Yeah they could have left it at three, but then those of us who enjoyed the new movies would have less JP movies to enjoy. I'd rather JP go the direct to video films route like the Tremors series than have it just die off for a couple decades.
Yeah, but they became so preoccupied about whether or not they could, they didn't stop to think if they SHOULD.

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_JNavs_ wrote:I was actually surprised by the response to JWFK. I really enjoyed it. Other than those extremely annoying side protagonists. The kid I thought had a tragic backstory, R.I.P. Isla Nublar and Brachiosaurus from JP1, the Indoraptor was wicked and intelligent which made for a pretty suspenseful 3rd act, even though we know protagonists don't die in these films anymore due to plot armor. I would've preferred a classic horror style JP, but since they've hit the FnF $$$ big leagues I doubt they'll ever go back to their roots.
The "cloning kid" twist was BEYOND dumb, the Brachiosaur death shamelessly pulled a Mufasa with the damn clouds, the Indoraptor was executed POORLY, and even the main characters are dumb.
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Did some glitch happen? Why is the Monsterverse beyond 2020 merged with Jurassic Park topic?

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Living Corpse wrote:Did some glitch happen? Why is the Monsterverse beyond 2020 merged with Jurassic Park topic?
A staff member moved off-topic posts to this thread.
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_JNavs_ wrote:I was actually surprised by the response to JWFK. I really enjoyed it. Other than those extremely annoying side protagonists. The kid I thought had a tragic backstory, R.I.P. Isla Nublar and Brachiosaurus from JP1, the Indoraptor was wicked and intelligent which made for a pretty suspenseful 3rd act, even though we know protagonists don't die in these films anymore due to plot armor. I would've preferred a classic horror style JP, but since they've hit the FnF $$$ big leagues I doubt they'll ever go back to their roots.
The "cloning kid" twist was BEYOND dumb, the Brachiosaur death shamelessly pulled a Mufasa with the damn clouds, the Indoraptor was executed POORLY, and even the main characters are dumb.
Eh, it made sense in the grand scheme of things, if you can clone dinosaurs from fossils, what's stopping you from doing human testing from living specimens? The Brachiosaur death was tragic because he was consumed by smoke and fire, I don't recall him literally in the clouds looking down on Chris Pratt telling him good job :lol: . Bryce Dallas Howard can do no wrong in my eyes, celeb crush right there. Pratt is the Motorcycle Raptor pack Dino Mack. Those 2 side kids had NO business in this film though, they were beyond stupid.
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_JNavs_ wrote:
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_JNavs_ wrote:I was actually surprised by the response to JWFK. I really enjoyed it. Other than those extremely annoying side protagonists. The kid I thought had a tragic backstory, R.I.P. Isla Nublar and Brachiosaurus from JP1, the Indoraptor was wicked and intelligent which made for a pretty suspenseful 3rd act, even though we know protagonists don't die in these films anymore due to plot armor. I would've preferred a classic horror style JP, but since they've hit the FnF $$$ big leagues I doubt they'll ever go back to their roots.
The "cloning kid" twist was BEYOND dumb, the Brachiosaur death shamelessly pulled a Mufasa with the damn clouds, the Indoraptor was executed POORLY, and even the main characters are dumb.
Eh, it made sense in the grand scheme of things, if you can clone dinosaurs from fossils, what's stopping you from doing human testing from living specimens? The Brachiosaur death was tragic because he was consumed by smoke and fire, I don't recall him literally in the clouds looking down on Chris Pratt telling him good job :lol: . Bryce Dallas Howard can do no wrong in my eyes, celeb crush right there. Pratt is the Motorcycle Raptor pack Dino Mack. Those 2 side kids had NO business in this film though, they were beyond stupid.
Aside from a FEW hints, the twist was out of nowhere. It was a terrible movie with terrible writing, and I'm sick of people making excuses for it because "It's JP" and dinosaurs are like dangling keys for babies.
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Vakanai wrote:Eh, I'd rather they risk running a franchise into the ground and at least getting some fun dino scenes out of it than just leaving it.
The way I see it, Universal continuing to pour money and resources into a mediocre franchise rather than dedicating that same money to more unique projects is wasteful.
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UltramanGoji wrote:
Living Corpse wrote:Did some glitch happen? Why is the Monsterverse beyond 2020 merged with Jurassic Park topic?
A staff member moved off-topic posts to this thread.
Yep, that would be me. Had way too many posts related to Jurassic Park that ended up in that thread, and totally off topic of anything relatd to the MonsterVerse.
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