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MechaGoji Bro7503 wrote:
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I still can't fathom why those mercenary guys would decide to look for the Indominus skeleton at night, while it was storming. I mean weren't they on the island for a while doing whatever? Surely they made it to the island during the day and someone looked in the Mosasuar's pen.
I have an entire rant devoted to that scene haha
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The opening scene would've been amazing if the characters in it were not so brain dead.

Is the island under guard somehow? I don't remember them saying so, so why do this mission at night in a rainstorm when you know there are dangerous predators that live on the island and likely hunt at night?

How is the Mosasaur even still alive?

One of the men in the submersible says it probably starved to death, and I'd be inclined to agree if it's three years (or even a year) after Jurassic World.

But for safety's sake on both counts of land and water predators, would't you go there during the daytime? Or, if you have to go at night, at least do some recon beforehand so you can determine if the Mosasaur is actually dead?

Like, before sending people in there? It's fucking enormous, it's not like it can hide. You can keep watch for the land predators much easier in daylight as opposed to a nighttime rainstorm. if not, figure out a way to wirelessly hack the gate controls from 50 feet up, safe from a T. Rex.

Also how does the Mosasaur even get out? How do the men in the submersible get in? To/from the ocean? The Mosasaur's lagoon is NOT connected to the ocean.

I'm not bullshitting, google Jurassic World Map and see for yourself. That's a massive continuity error for the sake of an action sequence.

Why can the guys in the helicopter not communicate with the guy on the ground through his headset?

Wouldn't they make sure to be able to communicate when going to this island without having to shout to each other? Because that's a very bad idea! (Jurassic Park 3 bullhorn anyone?)

The scene was effectively shot and did succeed in making Rexy scary again, but applying any critical thinking to the way it's written (which I did in the theater after the scene was over, I'm a writer so sue me) makes it a lot less effective
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Huan_of_Valinor wrote:
MechaGoji Bro7503 wrote:
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I still can't fathom why those mercenary guys would decide to look for the Indominus skeleton at night, while it was storming. I mean weren't they on the island for a while doing whatever? Surely they made it to the island during the day and someone looked in the Mosasuar's pen.
I have an entire rant devoted to that scene haha
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The opening scene would've been amazing if the characters in it were not so brain dead.

Is the island under guard somehow? I don't remember them saying so, so why do this mission at night in a rainstorm when you know there are dangerous predators that live on the island and likely hunt at night?

How is the Mosasaur even still alive?

One of the men in the submersible says it probably starved to death, and I'd be inclined to agree if it's three years (or even a year) after Jurassic World.

But for safety's sake on both counts of land and water predators, would't you go there during the daytime? Or, if you have to go at night, at least do some recon beforehand so you can determine if the Mosasaur is actually dead?

Like, before sending people in there? It's skreeonking enormous, it's not like it can hide. You can keep watch for the land predators much easier in daylight as opposed to a nighttime rainstorm. if not, figure out a way to wirelessly hack the gate controls from 50 feet up, safe from a T. Rex.

Also how does the Mosasaur even get out? How do the men in the submersible get in? To/from the ocean? The Mosasaur's lagoon is NOT connected to the ocean.

I'm not bullshitting, google Jurassic World Map and see for yourself. That's a massive continuity error for the sake of an action sequence.

Why can the guys in the helicopter not communicate with the guy on the ground through his headset?

Wouldn't they make sure to be able to communicate when going to this island without having to shout to each other? Because that's a very bad idea! (Jurassic Park 3 bullhorn anyone?)

The scene was effectively shot and did succeed in making Rexy scary again, but applying any critical thinking to the way it's written (which I did in the theater after the scene was over, I'm a writer so sue me) makes it a lot less effective
Some of my friends who liked it dislike talking about it with me :lol:
Haha I know right? Same that my friends were a little uh in disbelief about my points.
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I agree that the mosasaur escaping to the ocean from the lagoon is a continuity error but there is an explanation on when the opening happens from an interview with Trevorow, who says it takes place about a week or two after Jurassic World while the rest of the film is three years after. Doesn't explain how Mills/ Wu got a team set up and sent out that quickly but I don't care, opening was the best part of the movie.
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I have to say I really love the shot of
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SoggyNoodles2016 wrote:
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I agree that the mosasaur escaping to the ocean from the lagoon is a continuity error but there is an explanation on when the opening happens from an interview with Trevorow, who says it takes place about a week or two after Jurassic World while the rest of the film is three years after. Doesn't explain how Mills/ Wu got a team set up and sent out that quickly but I don't care, opening was the best part of the movie.
Really? Interesting.
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But would the Indominus be a skeleton in just about a week or two? It's a stupid question.
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MechaGoji Bro7503 wrote:
SoggyNoodles2016 wrote:
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I agree that the mosasaur escaping to the ocean from the lagoon is a continuity error but there is an explanation on when the opening happens from an interview with Trevorow, who says it takes place about a week or two after Jurassic World while the rest of the film is three years after. Doesn't explain how Mills/ Wu got a team set up and sent out that quickly but I don't care, opening was the best part of the movie.
Really? Interesting.
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But would the Indominus be a skeleton in just about a week or two? It's a stupid question.
Again, that's the explanation they gave. I didn't say it made total sense.
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SoggyNoodles2016 wrote:
MechaGoji Bro7503 wrote:
SoggyNoodles2016 wrote:
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I agree that the mosasaur escaping to the ocean from the lagoon is a continuity error but there is an explanation on when the opening happens from an interview with Trevorow, who says it takes place about a week or two after Jurassic World while the rest of the film is three years after. Doesn't explain how Mills/ Wu got a team set up and sent out that quickly but I don't care, opening was the best part of the movie.
Really? Interesting.
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But would the Indominus be a skeleton in just about a week or two? It's a stupid question.
Again, that's the explanation they gave. I didn't say it made total sense.
Oh, right. Eh, it is what it is I guess. :shrug:
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MechaGoji Bro7503 wrote:
SoggyNoodles2016 wrote:
MechaGoji Bro7503 wrote: Really? Interesting.
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But would the Indominus be a skeleton in just about a week or two? It's a stupid question.
Again, that's the explanation they gave. I didn't say it made total sense.
Oh, right. Eh, it is what it is I guess. :shrug:
Eh, better than just not addressing it I guess.

Anyways, wonder if anyone has any opinion on the theory going around that
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the Indoraptor imprinted on Maisie and it spends the whole movie trying to reach her and "protect" her by killing humans and trying to kill Claire and Owen, further exemplified by it trying to touch her when they're alone instead of murdering her on the spot like it does everything else.
I think it's a pretty good way to explain the odd behavior
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the Indoraptor
exhibits.
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SoggyNoodles2016 wrote: Anyways, wonder if anyone has any opinion on the theory going around that
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the Indoraptor imprinted on Maisie and it spends the whole movie trying to reach her and "protect" her by killing humans and trying to kill Claire and Owen, further exemplified by it trying to touch her when they're alone instead of murdering her on the spot like it does everything else.
I think it's a pretty good way to explain the odd behavior
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the Indoraptor
exhibits.
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Didn't he nearly eat her before Owen came in her room and started shooting him?
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SoggyNoodles2016 wrote:
MechaGoji Bro7503 wrote:
SoggyNoodles2016 wrote:
Again, that's the explanation they gave. I didn't say it made total sense.
Oh, right. Eh, it is what it is I guess. :shrug:
Eh, better than just not addressing it I guess.

Anyways, wonder if anyone has any opinion on the theory going around that
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the Indoraptor imprinted on Maisie and it spends the whole movie trying to reach her and "protect" her by killing humans and trying to kill Claire and Owen, further exemplified by it trying to touch her when they're alone instead of murdering her on the spot like it does everything else.
I think it's a pretty good way to explain the odd behavior
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the Indoraptor
exhibits.
I hate that theory with a firey passion.
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the reason that the indoraptor is so slow and methodical when approaching masie is for the same reason that it pretended to be asleep in front of wheatley, and the same reason it let wheatley sit and cry before tearing him to shreds.

It's a psychopath. Just killing doesn't satisfy it. It likes to toy with people, to smell their fear. Maisie is it's perfect victim. A small, helpless child that it can scare the living daylights out of. Brushing her hair and reaching for her covers were ways to build up the suspense, let her cower before it killed her.

It's expressly stated that the indoraptor lacks empathy. That's why they need blue for the prototype. I see no reason why Maisie would be an exception to this.

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GodzillavsZilla wrote:
SoggyNoodles2016 wrote: Anyways, wonder if anyone has any opinion on the theory going around that
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the Indoraptor imprinted on Maisie and it spends the whole movie trying to reach her and "protect" her by killing humans and trying to kill Claire and Owen, further exemplified by it trying to touch her when they're alone instead of murdering her on the spot like it does everything else.
I think it's a pretty good way to explain the odd behavior
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the Indoraptor
exhibits.
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Didn't he nearly eat her before Owen came in her room and started shooting him?
Been a while but I rembered it as him
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slowly moving to grab her which considering the clusterskreeonk of DNA it is, might have been a friendly greeting. Either that, or it can't decide whether his instincts say protect or eat.
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SoggyNoodles2016 wrote:
MechaGoji Bro7503 wrote: Oh, right. Eh, it is what it is I guess. :shrug:
Eh, better than just not addressing it I guess.

Anyways, wonder if anyone has any opinion on the theory going around that
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the Indoraptor imprinted on Maisie and it spends the whole movie trying to reach her and "protect" her by killing humans and trying to kill Claire and Owen, further exemplified by it trying to touch her when they're alone instead of murdering her on the spot like it does everything else.
I think it's a pretty good way to explain the odd behavior
Spoiler:
the Indoraptor
exhibits.
I hate that theory with a firey passion.
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the reason that the indoraptor is so slow and methodical when approaching masie is for the same reason that it pretended to be asleep in front of wheatley, and the same reason it let wheatley sit and cry before tearing him to shreds.

It's a psychopath. Just killing doesn't satisfy it. It likes to toy with people, to smell their fear. Maisie is it's perfect victim. A small, helpless child that it can scare the living daylights out of. Brushing her hair and reaching for her covers were ways to build up the suspense, let her cower before it killed her.

It's expressly stated that the indoraptor lacks empathy. That's why they need blue for the prototype. I see no reason why Maisie would be an exception to this.
You've got a point. I just think the way it
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hones in specificly on Maisie and actively tries to attack anything near her
is a bit odd for the
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dinosaur equivalent of Frankenstein
. Like I said to GodzillavsZilla,
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it might also be conflicted between kill and protect
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SoggyNoodles2016 wrote:
GodzillavsZilla wrote:
SoggyNoodles2016 wrote: Anyways, wonder if anyone has any opinion on the theory going around that
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the Indoraptor imprinted on Maisie and it spends the whole movie trying to reach her and "protect" her by killing humans and trying to kill Claire and Owen, further exemplified by it trying to touch her when they're alone instead of murdering her on the spot like it does everything else.
I think it's a pretty good way to explain the odd behavior
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the Indoraptor
exhibits.
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Didn't he nearly eat her before Owen came in her room and started shooting him?
Been a while but I rembered it as him
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slowly moving to grab her which considering the clusterskreeonk of DNA it is, might have been a friendly greeting. Either that, or it can't decide whether his instincts say protect or eat.
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I remember he was about to lunge, mouth open towards her until Owen barged in at the last second. I think it's to be assumed he was going to kill Maisie.
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GodzillavsZilla wrote:
SoggyNoodles2016 wrote:
GodzillavsZilla wrote:
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Didn't he nearly eat her before Owen came in her room and started shooting him?
Been a while but I rembered it as him
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slowly moving to grab her which considering the clusterskreeonk of DNA it is, might have been a friendly greeting. Either that, or it can't decide whether his instincts say protect or eat.
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I remember he was about to lunge, mouth open towards her until Owen barged in at the last second. I think it's to be assumed he was going to kill Maisie.
Rewatched a bootleg of the scene on YouTube and you're right.
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I could stretch and say the jaw movements are an attempt to communicate but that last bit is definitely a lunge.
I'm gonna have to say this is probably ruled out.
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SoggyNoodles2016 wrote:
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I agree that the mosasaur escaping to the ocean from the lagoon is a continuity error but there is an explanation on when the opening happens from an interview with Trevorow, who says it takes place about a week or two after Jurassic World while the rest of the film is three years after. Doesn't explain how Mills/ Wu got a team set up and sent out that quickly but I don't care, opening was the best part of the movie.
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Why would they assume that the Mosasaur was dead if it was a week or two after the incident? Once again, why didn't they check to make sure it's dead? It can't hide like the land dwelling creatures, it's trapped and enormous. They know it took the Indom, couldn't you assume that would give it at least a week's worth of food? The lagoon thing is a massive continuity error, since they made a point to show that it was landlocked in Jurassic World. But the average movie-goer only saw it once and won't remember anyways so lazy writing can get a pass (i'm not directing that at you, I'm just saying)

On the plus side, the time-skip does explain why the Indoraptor was full grown, so there's that.
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Huan_of_Valinor wrote:
SoggyNoodles2016 wrote:
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I agree that the mosasaur escaping to the ocean from the lagoon is a continuity error but there is an explanation on when the opening happens from an interview with Trevorow, who says it takes place about a week or two after Jurassic World while the rest of the film is three years after. Doesn't explain how Mills/ Wu got a team set up and sent out that quickly but I don't care, opening was the best part of the movie.
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Why would they assume that the Mosasaur was dead if it was a week or two after the incident? Once again, why didn't they check to make sure it's dead? It can't hide like the land dwelling creatures, it's trapped and enormous. They know it took the Indom, couldn't you assume that would give it at least a week's worth of food? The lagoon thing is a massive continuity error, since they made a point to show that it was landlocked in Jurassic World. But the average movie-goer only saw it once and won't remember anyways so lazy writing can get a pass (i'm not directing that at you, I'm just saying)

On the plus side, the time-skip does explain why the Indoraptor was full grown, so there's that.
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The entire thing is a plot hole because now the Mosa was in the ocean for 3 years and nobody noticed it?
That's why it's best to just enjoy and don't ask to many questions with the Jurassic films.
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Ocean is a big place yo and it was one Mosasaur not a bunch of them. Three years is enough time to not be noticed.
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miguelnuva wrote:
Huan_of_Valinor wrote:
SoggyNoodles2016 wrote:
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I agree that the mosasaur escaping to the ocean from the lagoon is a continuity error but there is an explanation on when the opening happens from an interview with Trevorow, who says it takes place about a week or two after Jurassic World while the rest of the film is three years after. Doesn't explain how Mills/ Wu got a team set up and sent out that quickly but I don't care, opening was the best part of the movie.
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Why would they assume that the Mosasaur was dead if it was a week or two after the incident? Once again, why didn't they check to make sure it's dead? It can't hide like the land dwelling creatures, it's trapped and enormous. They know it took the Indom, couldn't you assume that would give it at least a week's worth of food? The lagoon thing is a massive continuity error, since they made a point to show that it was landlocked in Jurassic World. But the average movie-goer only saw it once and won't remember anyways so lazy writing can get a pass (i'm not directing that at you, I'm just saying)

On the plus side, the time-skip does explain why the Indoraptor was full grown, so there's that.
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The entire thing is a plot hole because now the Mosa was in the ocean for 3 years and nobody noticed it?
That's why it's best to just enjoy and don't ask to many questions with the Jurassic films.
GodzillaFan1990's wrote:Ocean is a big place yo and it was one Mosasaur not a bunch of them. Three years is enough time to not be noticed.
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I didn't say anything about the ocean. The "Mosasaur Lagoon" is the things pen, which was not connected to the ocean in the first Jurassic World, and is small enough that one could make sure it's dead before sending men in there for something valuable like the Indom bone. If it's still alive then send in an unmanned drone or electrocute it or something.

Of fucking course you wouldn't be able to find it in the ocean, something the size of Godzilla could legit hide in there very easily lol
Also you can ask all the questions you want about the first Jurassic movie and it still holds up. It has problems but nothing you have to specifically overlook except for the sudden cliff at the t rex paddock and...

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Shouldn't this have been changed to The Jurassic Park Series (1-5) long ago? Just asking.

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mikelcho wrote:Shouldn't this have been changed to The Jurassic Park Series (1-5) long ago? Just asking.
Gotcha covered ;) .
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GodzillavsZilla wrote:
mikelcho wrote:Shouldn't this have been changed to The Jurassic Park Series (1-5) long ago? Just asking.
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MechaGoji Bro7503 wrote: Tue Jan 31, 2023 3:24 pm Don't go to a friend's wedding, send him 100 copies of Gamera vs Zigra instead. Be a man.

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