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The Dragon thread.

Postby Rhedosaurus » Sat Mar 09, 2019 5:42 am

The name says it all. Dragons in movies, legends, and even Komodo Dragons and the real life sea serpent relatives, the mosasaurs, because...well why not? :P


In any case, an interesting article about how Reign Of Fire was the basis of modern day CGI dragons.

https://www.vice.com/en_ca/article/vbb4dy/without-reign-of-fire-cgi-dragons-would-probably-suck

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Re: The Dragon thread.

Postby Kaiju-King42 » Sat Mar 09, 2019 6:15 am

The Reign of Fire dragons were in turn based on Vermithrax. So was Smaug, actually.

If modern CGI dragons have anything to owe, it's Dragonslayer.
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Re: The Dragon thread.

Postby Rhedosaurus » Sat Mar 09, 2019 6:23 am

Kaiju-King42 wrote:The Reign of Fire dragons were in turn based on Vermithrax. So was Smaug, actually.

If modern CGI dragons have anything to owe, it's Dragonslayer.


I read that movie is solid, but I have yet to see Dragonslayer.

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Re: The Dragon thread.

Postby Kaiju-King42 » Sat Mar 09, 2019 6:31 am

Rhedosaurus wrote:
Kaiju-King42 wrote:The Reign of Fire dragons were in turn based on Vermithrax. So was Smaug, actually.

If modern CGI dragons have anything to owe, it's Dragonslayer.


I read that movie is solid, but I have yet to see Dragonslayer.


If you like dragons (or stop/go motion monsters) it's definitely a must-see.
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Re: The Dragon thread.

Postby Rhedosaurus » Sat Mar 09, 2019 6:33 am

Kaiju-King42 wrote:
Rhedosaurus wrote:
Kaiju-King42 wrote:The Reign of Fire dragons were in turn based on Vermithrax. So was Smaug, actually.

If modern CGI dragons have anything to owe, it's Dragonslayer.


I read that movie is solid, but I have yet to see Dragonslayer.


If you like dragons (or stop/go motion monsters) it's definitely a must-see.


Thanks. I read about it in an old thick book back in middle school, The Encyclopedia of Monsters. The design really looked good, but I never followed up on it.

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Re: The Dragon thread.

Postby Tyrant_Lizard_King » Sat Mar 09, 2019 7:12 am

Vermithrax is the greatest movie dragon ever. Just ask Guillermo Del Toro and George RR Martin.

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Postby Rhedosaurus » Sat Mar 09, 2019 7:21 am

Tyrant_Lizard_King wrote:Vermithrax is the greatest movie dragon ever. Just ask Guillermo Del Toro and George RR Martin.

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Does stuff like the Oberisk from Willow count? Or the Hydra from Jason and the Argonauts?


Sure why not? If I say Komodo Dragons are fair game here, then so are they. :D

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Re: The Dragon thread.

Postby Tyrant_Lizard_King » Sat Mar 09, 2019 7:28 am

So basically any large mythological beast of reptilian design. Of course I'm curious to see how this upcoming AD&D movie turns out. Another underrated gem is Rankin/Bass' The Flight of Dragons. Of course their adaptations of The Hobbit and The Last Unicorn also feature dragons. Smaug in The Hobbit is voiced by Richard Boone who was also in Rankin/Bass' The Last Dinosaur, co-produced by Tsuburaya Productions. Having brought up D&D they are my preferred take on dragons as a whole.
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Re: The Dragon thread.

Postby Rhedosaurus » Sat Mar 09, 2019 7:58 am

Here's a picture of the Peluda. I first read about this in another book in middle school, but the book never mentioned its name. This is a very interesting dragon that would make a formidable foe with a few changes.

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Re: The Dragon thread.

Postby Dracosaurian » Sat Mar 09, 2019 9:32 am

Well if you're a lover of dragons then folks should definitely check out the artist Spaghettibastard and his WYRM series.

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Postby Tyrant_Lizard_King » Sat Mar 09, 2019 1:18 pm

Dragolisco is probably my favorite dragon artist on DeviantArt. He also does a lot of "realistic" Pokemon and Dragonball art.

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Postby GodzillaFan1990's » Sat Mar 09, 2019 1:19 pm

Among my favorite dragons would obviously be King Ghidorah (Desghidorah being my favorite one), Dagahra and the Reign of Fire dragons.

Reign of Fire is really underrated. Forget zombies because if you thought that was scary think again. ;)

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Postby ApexOversteer » Sat Mar 09, 2019 10:21 pm

Tyrant_Lizard_King wrote:Vermithrax is the greatest movie dragon ever. Just ask Guillermo Del Toro and George RR Martin.


I agree. The influence of Vermithrax Pejorative can be seen all the way to Game Of Thrones. She is the true Mother Of Dragons.
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Re: The Dragon thread.

Postby Tyrant_Lizard_King » Sat Mar 09, 2019 11:05 pm

Well yeah Vermithrax is even name drop in the TV show.
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Re: The Dragon thread.

Postby HeiseiGodzilla117 » Sat Mar 09, 2019 11:06 pm

Tyrant_Lizard_King wrote:Well yeah Vermithrax is even name drop in the TV show.


Vermithrax is name dropped in GoT?

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Postby 2004Zilla » Sat Mar 09, 2019 11:10 pm

Spaghettibastard is an awesome artist, love his work.
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Re: The Dragon thread.

Postby ApexOversteer » Sat Mar 09, 2019 11:53 pm

HeiseiGodzilla117 wrote:
Tyrant_Lizard_King wrote:Well yeah Vermithrax is even name drop in the TV show.


Vermithrax is name dropped in GoT?


She sure was... Season 1, Cripples, Bastards and Broken Things

"There was Ghiscar and Valryon, Vermithrax, Essovius, Archonei, Meraxes, Vhagar, and Balerion the Dread whose fire forged the Seven Kingdoms into one." - Viserys Targaryen
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Re: The Dragon thread.

Postby HeiseiGodzilla117 » Sun Mar 10, 2019 12:03 am

ApexOversteer wrote:
"There was Ghiscar and Valryon, Vermithrax, Essovius, Archonei, Meraxes, Vhagar, and Balerion the Dread whose fire forged the Seven Kingdoms into one." - Viserys Targaryen



How have I never noticed that? I've watched the series about 8 times at this point. That's pretty neat. Although, that just makes me wish Martin would have snuck in a little Vermithrax easter egg into the books.

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Re: The Dragon thread.

Postby LegendZilla » Sun Mar 10, 2019 3:36 am

Nothing against dragons as a whole, but in the media I do feel they need more variety than just the wyvern-type. For example, a wingless quadruped.
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Re: The Dragon thread.

Postby Jeff-Goldblum2 » Sun Mar 10, 2019 3:54 am

One of my favorite artists to depict dragons is Bob Eggleton ever since I picked up his art book titled The Book of Sea Monsters.

http://fantasygallery.net/album.php?album=eggleton

http://d.gr-assets.com/books/1174483641l/405800.jpg

He's done artwork for Magic: The Gathering cards.

http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/ ... rseid=5660

He also does artwork for Godzilla as well.

http://www.locusmag.com/2004/Reviews/godzillabig.jpg
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