Child's Play (2019)

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Rating for the film

Five Stars
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11%
Four Stars
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22%
Three Stars
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11%
Two Stars
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11%
One Star
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44%
 
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Re: Child's Play (2019)

Postby Maritonic » Thu Jun 20, 2019 4:47 am

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Kaiju no Kami wrote:If they tell a great story who cares if it stays a trilogy or not. Trilogies are over done these days anyway.

So you'd rather a franchise continue to degrade in quality until being milked dry? I'd rather not because that's what happens overtime when you keep making sequels to movies and such.


You do realize you're on a forum for a franchise with 30+ films, yes?
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Re: Child's Play (2019)

Postby Kaiju no Kami » Thu Jun 20, 2019 6:37 am

GodzillaFan1990's wrote:
Kaiju no Kami wrote:If they tell a great story who cares if it stays a trilogy or not. Trilogies are over done these days anyway.

So you'd rather a franchise continue to degrade in quality until being milked dry? I'd rather not because that's what happens overtime when you keep making sequels to movies and such.


Except Toy Story hasn't degraded in quality as each movie is better than the last.

Also, James Bond has varied quallity of movies with Casino Royale and Skyfall being two of the best in the franchise.

THe MCU has 22 films right now and several of the more recent ones are some of the best of the franchise.

Oh, and yeah, Godzilla...
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Re: Child's Play (2019)

Postby Vakanai » Thu Jun 20, 2019 6:49 am

GodzillaFan1990's wrote:
Kaiju no Kami wrote:If they tell a great story who cares if it stays a trilogy or not. Trilogies are over done these days anyway.

So you'd rather a franchise continue to degrade in quality until being milked dry? I'd rather not because that's what happens overtime when you keep making sequels to movies and such.

Feel like I'm repeating myself but - Again, it being a trilogy was never the original intention or of any importance. A long time ago you could have said the same thing when they announced the first sequel, the original was perfect as is why degrade it with a sequel? Then later you could argue the the first two are great, why make a third and risk ruining it? So why is this time any different? They've been milking this franchise since the beginning, making unneeded sequels to make more money, and it's been great every time so far, so why is this time different? If the last two sequels didn't degrade the series, why will this one degrade it? Why is it so important it stays at three films when it was never plotted out to be a trilogy to begin with?
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Re: Child's Play (2019)

Postby GodzillaFan1990's » Thu Jun 20, 2019 8:04 am

tyrantgoji wrote:you haven't even seen the movie, how do you know if it's bad?

You don't need to see a movie to know if its bad.

Bayformers, Fifty Shades of Grey, Twilight?

Ring any bells?

Before those came out many people knew those would be bad. Despite that too they also made lot of money showing just because they make lot of money doesn't make it good either.
Maritonic wrote:You do realize you're on a forum for a franchise with 30+ films, yes?

Here's the difference though. The franchise has different continuities and stories and doesn't follow the same story. That's the difference.

Bad comparison.

Also knowing Pixar's typical formula they probably most likely relied on the usual pre-climax argument and Twist Villain (I'm certain that's what Bo Peep is gonna turn out to be).
Kaiju no Kami wrote:THe MCU has 22 films right now and several of the more recent ones are some of the best of the franchise.

Honestly some of their last few films hadn't been great but not bad either IMO (Only bad ones being Thor: Ragnarok and Captain Marvel IMO) and I actually found Endgame to be underwhelming. Last one I really loved was Guardians 2. At this point the only ones I really look forward too are Guardians 3 and Doctor Strange 2. That said though I still like the MCU they're pretty much a guilty pleasure of mine.

Also there's the fact that the ending of the Toy Story 3 ended it so perfectly so why ruin that just for the sake of another extra buck?
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Re: Child's Play (2019)

Postby Maritonic » Thu Jun 20, 2019 8:37 am

GodzillaFan1990's wrote:
Maritonic wrote:You do realize you're on a forum for a franchise with 30+ films, yes?

Here's the difference though. The franchise has different continuities and stories and doesn't follow the same story. That's the difference.

Bad comparison.

Also knowing Pixar's typical formula they probably most likely relied on the usual pre-climax argument and Twist Villain (I'm certain that's what Bo Peep is gonna turn out to be).


I mean, no, you made a blanket statement about franchises and sequels. Not specifically saying any constructive criticism about the Toy Story franchise. So, not bad comparison. Nice try, though.
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Re: Child's Play (2019)

Postby MikeSTZillak » Thu Jun 20, 2019 8:39 am

Well, the critics online (who are different from people online for some reason) are giving the film good reviews.
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Re: Child's Play (2019)

Postby Kaiju no Kami » Thu Jun 20, 2019 8:52 am

GodzillaFan1990's wrote:
Maritonic wrote:You do realize you're on a forum for a franchise with 30+ films, yes?

Here's the difference though. The franchise has different continuities and stories and doesn't follow the same story. That's the difference.

Bad comparison.


Except the original continuity had 15 movies to its name. Toy Story has 4.

Also knowing Pixar's typical formula they probably most likely relied on the usual pre-climax argument and Twist Villain (I'm certain that's what Bo Peep is gonna turn out to be).


Sowhat? All that matters is that it is entertaining.

Honestly some of their last few films hadn't been great but not bad either IMO (Only bad ones being Thor: Ragnarok and Captain Marvel IMO) and I actually found Endgame to be underwhelming. Last one I really loved was Guardians 2. At this point the only ones I really look forward too are Guardians 3 and Doctor Strange 2. That said though I still like the MCU they're pretty much a guilty pleasure of mine.

Also there's the fact that the ending of the Toy Story 3 ended it so perfectly so why ruin that just for the sake of another extra buck?


Thor Ragnarok was excellent. Not as good as the first one, but almost there.

Captain Marvel is easily the only stinker of Phase 3, but I didn't think Guardians 2 was all that special. Too many forced jokes that went on too long. The first one was way better. Same goes for Ant-Man and the Wasp.

Black Panther, Civil War, Spider-Man Homecoming, and Infinity War are easily some of the best comic book films all around. The only MCU film better than them is The Winter Soldier, which is tied with The Dark Knight for being the best comic book movie thus far.

Nevertheless, I am looking forward to nearly everything Phase 4 has to offer that isn't Captain Marvel. Of course, the best thing about Captain Marvel is she has been established now so they can give Rogue her powers properly when they relaunch X-Men.
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Re: Child's Play (2019)

Postby GodzillaFan1990's » Thu Jun 20, 2019 8:55 am

Kaiju no Kami wrote:Sowhat? All that matters is that it is entertaining.

Because god forbid they can't do a new or unique approach and relying on those same tropes for all their movies is just damn lazy. Which is exactly why I didn't find Coco that special besides being visually beautiful. It also ripped off The Book of Life so there's also that.

I at least give them credit for Inside Out and Wall-E for that reason. It shows they can do it but as said too damn lazy for the most part to do so. Then again though maybe those two were just miraclely outliers. I definitely can't wait for the inevitable pre-climax argument and twist villain in Onward!
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Re: Child's Play (2019)

Postby KManX89 » Thu Jun 20, 2019 9:14 am

Kaiju no Kami wrote:
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Kaiju no Kami wrote:No reviews yet, not a good sign. I predict a RT score of 18% if the movie is lucky.

:sarcasm:
They're already reviews out there from people who seen it internationally and they're positive.


Yeah, like I'm going to trust some random dude who saw it and says it was great. Justice League had people who got to see the movie early saying it was the best super hero movie ever and it was one of the most boring pieces of poop ever.


Especially when they have a review embargo that literally drops the day it comes out.

That's as sure a sign as any that they know a movie is ass. Embargoing reviews the day before release is ominous enough, but the day it comes out? Yeah, they sure have faith in their movie. :roll:
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Re: Child's Play (2019)

Postby eabaker » Thu Jun 20, 2019 9:57 am

GodzillaFan1990's wrote:Also knowing Pixar's typical formula they probably most likely relied on the usual pre-climax argument and Twist Villain (I'm certain that's what Bo Peep is gonna turn out to be).


Gee, it's almost like these movies are made for 8 year olds who are still familiarizing themselves with the core tropes of classical storytelling and are not yet ready to move on to anything more innovative or experimental...
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Re: Child's Play (2019)

Postby GodzillaFan1990's » Thu Jun 20, 2019 10:26 am

eabaker wrote:Gee, it's almost like these movies are made for 8 year olds who are still familiarizing themselves with the core tropes of classical storytelling and are not yet ready to move on to anything more innovative or experimental...

So rather not introduce them to new concepts and such then? It would probably by doing that way lead to more interests in them at a younger age I'm just saying.
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Re: Child's Play (2019)

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GodzillaFan1990's wrote:
eabaker wrote:Gee, it's almost like these movies are made for 8 year olds who are still familiarizing themselves with the core tropes of classical storytelling and are not yet ready to move on to anything more innovative or experimental...

So rather not introduce them to new concepts and such then? It would probably by doing that way lead to more interests in them at a younger age I'm just saying.


Introduce new concepts in movies for 10 year olds, once they've had a chance to learn the old concepts that they were introduced to when they were 8/9.
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Re: Child's Play (2019)

Postby GodzillaFan1990's » Thu Jun 20, 2019 10:29 am

At this rate this isn't gonna bring us anywhere so best to just drop it considering this is off-topic.

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Re: Child's Play (2019)

Postby Maritonic » Thu Jun 20, 2019 10:29 am

Nah, it's not. Carry on.
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Re: Child's Play (2019)

Postby MikeSTZillak » Thu Jun 20, 2019 11:20 am

On-topic: the film is getting mostly positive reviews and is currently at 70% on Rotten Tomatoes.
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Re: Child's Play (2019)

Postby eabaker » Thu Jun 20, 2019 11:24 am

MikeSTZillak wrote:On-topic: the film is getting mostly positive reviews and is currently at 70% on Rotten Tomatoes.


I just read a pretty scathing review on AVClub. Best line:

When purists talk about digital cinema lacking the soul of its analog predecessors, it’s usually not this literal.
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Re: Child's Play (2019)

Postby KManX89 » Thu Jun 20, 2019 11:32 am

MikeSTZillak wrote:On-topic: the film is getting mostly positive reviews and is currently at 70% on Rotten Tomatoes.


I remember hearing people say the review embargo lifted on Friday, the day it comes out, oddly enough.

It's still gonna get destroyed by Toy Story 4. An R-rated 80's slasher reboot vs. a Disney/Pixar movie, I think we know which one's gonna take the top spot at the box office.
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Re: Child's Play (2019)

Postby Vakanai » Thu Jun 20, 2019 12:33 pm

GodzillaFan1990's wrote:Also there's the fact that the ending of the Toy Story 3 ended it so perfectly so why ruin that just for the sake of another extra buck?

Again, before the movies came out I could have asked:

1. Toy Story ended it so perfectly so why ruin that just for the sake of another extra buck?
2. Toy Story 2 ended it so perfectly so why ruin that just for the sake of another extra buck?
Each time they did good. So, why is now the time they're going to ruin it?

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MikeSTZillak wrote:On-topic: the film is getting mostly positive reviews and is currently at 70% on Rotten Tomatoes.


I remember hearing people say the review embargo lifted on Friday, the day it comes out, oddly enough.

It's still gonna get destroyed by Toy Story 4. An R-rated 80's slasher reboot vs. a Disney/Pixar movie, I think we know which one's gonna take the top spot at the box office.

Yeah, but that's okay. No one expects an R rated horror movie to own the box office, so they budget for that accordingly. Plus their aimed for wildly different audiences, so not really a direct competition,
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Re: Child's Play (2019)

Postby GodzillaFan1990's » Thu Jun 20, 2019 12:48 pm

On another note I honestly will admit. From what I've seen so far with this film this might be one of those better remakes. I like the new approach it has so far although I still would had preferred the whole serial killers soul in a doll.

Debating whether to give this a look or not. If so maybe I'll see it next week especially given this looks like a film that'd be up in my friends rally.

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Re: Child's Play (2019)

Postby Kaiju no Kami » Thu Jun 20, 2019 7:38 pm

GodzillaFan1990's wrote:
Kaiju no Kami wrote:Sowhat? All that matters is that it is entertaining.

Because god forbid they can't do a new or unique approach and relying on those same tropes for all their movies is just damn lazy. Which is exactly why I didn't find Coco that special besides being visually beautiful. It also ripped off The Book of Life so there's also that.


Except Coco was in production well before Book of Life and was INFINITELY SUPERIOR! Don't get me wrong, Book of Life was enjoyable, but it was as deep as a sheet of paper and a good one time watch. Coco is masterful, a five course meal with a lot of layers and depth that you always realize there is another piece to the film with each viewing.
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