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Re: General Gamera Thread (New Movie Announced!)

Postby Godzilla21 » Sun Nov 11, 2018 6:18 pm

I’d be up for any Gamera
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Re: General Gamera Thread (New Movie Announced!)

Postby Titanoterror98 » Sun Nov 11, 2018 6:57 pm

tbeasley wrote:I can buy into a smaller, inexperienced Gamera going up against a larger, corrupted version -
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Yeah, that could be a great idea for a story! A younger, more compassionate Gamera like Toto who's still learning, fighting a corrupted Gamera left over from the days of the ancient society whose heart was hardened by human cruelty. Who will win? Kindness or brutality? I wonder what we'd call the other Gamera though...

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Re: General Gamera Thread (New Movie Announced!)

Postby Living Corpse » Sun Nov 11, 2018 7:02 pm

So basically if Anti-Hero Gamera from G3 turned into Nightmare Gamera.

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Titanoterror98 wrote:I agree with LivingCorpse and Ivo Goji about an undersea battle--that would be an incredible sight to see in a kaiju movie! I can already imagine Gamera using his jets to zoom through the water while chasing after, say, a reimagined Zigra past lushly made replicas of coral reefs and shipwrecks. That and Gamera's aerial abilities would be great ways to remind people how he differs from Godzilla, as well.

And you know what, I agree with Tyrantgoji--give that alien shark cult leader another chance, I say! If done properly, he could fit in great with the lost civilization mythos Gamera has become associated with.

However, I don't know how to feel about a Mecha-Gamera. It might not be the best idea, since having a robot clone archenemy is Godzilla's thing and for the most part, we want a new movie that discerns him from Gamera. Plus, tbeasely is right: with Gamera already having a biomechanical feel to him, a fully mechanized copy would just feel redundant. But I do think that having Gamera fight a machine monster is still a cool idea! Like if a military complex created an AI-enabled war machine and Gamera would go to fight it to prevent humankind from making the same mistake as the ancient civilization that made him.


Godzilla needs a proper underwater fight as well, he's either at the surface or on the ocean bottom. Shouldn't Godzilla be swimming while fighting? He is a sea monster, and the closest I saw them do something like that is the underwater rail shooter fight with Ebirah and subs in Godzilla: Save the Earth. In this day and age with CGI there is no excuse.

Plus Gamera can different by making the fight switch back and forth between ocean and sky and back if his enemy can also swim and fly.

As for Mecha-Gamera, yeah it's redundent, even Gormaru from Ultraman has a mecha double, but it's be cool do see them try and buzzsaw each other high in the sky, espically with if it's shell is like the one I posted. And I think it'd be cool if the Mecha double had a cyan colored fireballs.
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Re: General Gamera Thread (New Movie Announced!)

Postby Godzillian » Sun Nov 11, 2018 7:15 pm

A mechagamera, no matter how its played on film, will just come off as being a cheap imitation of Mechagodzilla.
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Re: General Gamera Thread (New Movie Announced!)

Postby Titanoterror98 » Sun Nov 11, 2018 7:41 pm

Living Corpse wrote:So basically if Anti-Hero Gamera from G3 turned into Nightmare Gamera.


Precisely!

Living Corpse wrote:Godzilla needs a proper underwater fight as well, he's either at the surface or on the ocean bottom. Shouldn't Godzilla be swimming while fighting? He is a sea monster, and the closest I saw them do something like that is the underwater rail shooter fight with Ebirah and subs in Godzilla: Save the Earth. In this day and age with CGI there is no excuse.

Plus Gamera can different by making the fight switch back and forth between ocean and sea and back if his enemy can also swim and fly.

As for Mecha-Gamera, yeah it's redundent, even Gormaru from Ultraman has a mecha double, but it's be cool do see them try and buzzsaw each other high in the sky, espically with if it's shell is like the one I posted. And I think it'd be cool if the Mecha double had a cyan colored fireballs.


Yes, more underwater fights would be welcome in Gamera and Godzilla movies! Having a fight between Gamera and another switch between the sea and sky is a really inspired idea for a battle! It'd be a good idea to use if they brought Iris back for another movie.
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Re: General Gamera Thread (New Movie Announced!)

Postby Living Corpse » Sun Nov 11, 2018 11:29 pm

Titanoterror98 wrote:
Living Corpse wrote:So basically if Anti-Hero Gamera from G3 turned into Nightmare Gamera.


Precisely!

Living Corpse wrote:Godzilla needs a proper underwater fight as well, he's either at the surface or on the ocean bottom. Shouldn't Godzilla be swimming while fighting? He is a sea monster, and the closest I saw them do something like that is the underwater rail shooter fight with Ebirah and subs in Godzilla: Save the Earth. In this day and age with CGI there is no excuse.

Plus Gamera can different by making the fight switch back and forth between ocean and sea and back if his enemy can also swim and fly.

As for Mecha-Gamera, yeah it's redundent, even Gormaru from Ultraman has a mecha double, but it's be cool do see them try and buzzsaw each other high in the sky, espically with if it's shell is like the one I posted. And I think it'd be cool if the Mecha double had a cyan colored fireballs.


Yes, more underwater fights would be welcome in Gamera and Godzilla movies! Having a fight between Gamera and another switch between the sea and sky is a really inspired idea for a battle! It'd be a good idea to use if they brought Iris back for another movie.


I know right? They should have made Gamera and Iris battle keep switching between under the sea and above the clouds.
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Re: General Gamera Thread (New Movie Announced!)

Postby The One and Only » Sat Nov 17, 2018 8:46 pm

Titanoterror98 wrote:
Living Corpse wrote:So basically if Anti-Hero Gamera from G3 turned into Nightmare Gamera.


Precisely!

Living Corpse wrote:Godzilla needs a proper underwater fight as well, he's either at the surface or on the ocean bottom. Shouldn't Godzilla be swimming while fighting? He is a sea monster, and the closest I saw them do something like that is the underwater rail shooter fight with Ebirah and subs in Godzilla: Save the Earth. In this day and age with CGI there is no excuse.

Plus Gamera can different by making the fight switch back and forth between ocean and sea and back if his enemy can also swim and fly.

As for Mecha-Gamera, yeah it's redundent, even Gormaru from Ultraman has a mecha double, but it's be cool do see them try and buzzsaw each other high in the sky, espically with if it's shell is like the one I posted. And I think it'd be cool if the Mecha double had a cyan colored fireballs.


Yes, more underwater fights would be welcome in Gamera and Godzilla movies! Having a fight between Gamera and another switch between the sea and sky is a really inspired idea for a battle! It'd be a good idea to use if they brought Iris back for another movie.

Reminds me of the cover for G-FAN#49 by Chris Scalf and Paul Roche featuring Godzilla and Titanosaurus battling each other under water. While around the two combatants, various vessels can be seen sinking around them.
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Re: General Gamera Thread (New Movie Announced!)

Postby cloverfan98 » Sun Nov 18, 2018 11:48 am

I desperately want a new Gamera film but even if that "pitch" film didn't get a new film made it is one hell of a great short film on its own.

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Re: General Gamera Thread (New Movie Announced!)

Postby Titanoterror98 » Sun Nov 18, 2018 12:13 pm

cloverfan98 wrote:I desperately want a new Gamera film but even if that "pitch" film didn't get a new film made it is one hell of a great short film on its own.


That it was, cloverfan98.
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Re: General Gamera Thread (New Movie Announced!)

Postby mikelcho » Sat Dec 01, 2018 4:09 pm

Shouldn't the phrase "(New Movie Announced!)" be removed from the title since it's now known to be a short film and not a preview of a new movie?

Just sayin'.
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Re: General Gamera Thread (New Movie Announced!)

Postby SoggyNoodles2016 » Sat Dec 01, 2018 9:38 pm

mikelcho wrote:Shouldn't the phrase "(New Movie Announced!)" be removed from the title since it's now known to be a short film and not a preview of a new movie?

Just sayin'.

I second this because I'm sick of having my hopes raised and then brutally crushed whenever I see this thread.
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Re: General Gamera Thread (New Movie Announced!)

Postby Titanoterror98 » Sun Dec 02, 2018 7:21 am

SoggyNoodles2016 wrote:
mikelcho wrote:Shouldn't the phrase "(New Movie Announced!)" be removed from the title since it's now known to be a short film and not a preview of a new movie?

Just sayin'.

I second this because I'm sick of having my hopes raised and then brutally crushed whenever I see this thread.


I third this (is that a phrase?) for reasons stated above.

Huzzah! It worked! Thank you, guys!
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Re: General Gamera Thread

Postby Destorogoji » Sun Dec 02, 2018 9:32 pm

Finally, the "New Movie" title has been removed.

So, when do you think is the best time to make a new Gamera movie? Does it needs a new Godzilla era? Or maybe just as soon as possible?
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Re: General Gamera Thread

Postby Maverick Centigrade » Sun Dec 02, 2018 11:11 pm

I'm thinking there won't ever be a new Gamera movie. Think about it, Godzilla has been back to the big screen since 2014. He's had:

1 major motion picture from America, with 2 more being released back to back
1 live action Japanese movie
3 motion picture anime films

7 movies across 6 years, and yet Gamera has remained silent. You would think now is the time to reintroduce Gamera since kaiju films are gaining popularity again. I'm thinking perhaps the character is permanently retired.

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Re: General Gamera Thread

Postby JAGzilla » Sun Dec 02, 2018 11:36 pm

I wouldn't count him out yet. The Heisei trilogy waited for Godzilla to go on hiatus before taking advantage of his absence, so maybe the same thing will happen here. They don't want to risk direct competition with the much better known property.

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Re: General Gamera Thread

Postby KaijuCanuck » Sun Dec 02, 2018 11:46 pm

It still hurts a little that this movie never happened. That preview or whatever it was was so badass.
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Re: General Gamera Thread

Postby Living Corpse » Sun Dec 02, 2018 11:51 pm

I still say Gamera would benafit from being brought into the Monsterverse. Being in a big budget Hollywood film or two that get's a global release would help spread awareness of the character and create new fans for the franchise around the world.

Cause currently most people haven't heard of him and say "who?"
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Re: General Gamera Thread

Postby JAGzilla » Sun Dec 02, 2018 11:57 pm

And I can't imagine most would respond positively to an explanation. "Well, Gamera's this giant turtle, see... He's the Friend to All Children, and he breaths fire and can fly like a flying saucer..."

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Re: General Gamera Thread

Postby Living Corpse » Mon Dec 03, 2018 12:16 am

JAGzilla wrote:And I can't imagine most would respond positively to an explanation. "Well, Gamera's this giant turtle, see... He's the Friend to All Children, and he breaths fire and can fly like a flying saucer..."


We're getting a pterodactyl that lives in Lava. Also Gamera doesn't need the friend of all children background, Heisei didn't have it.

Heck Gamera could be a creature from the same volcanic bio-sphere as Rodan, having evolved in such environment to allow it to fly.
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Re: General Gamera Thread

Postby JAGzilla » Mon Dec 03, 2018 2:01 am

Eh... I guess it's no harder to believe than a three-headed lightning spitting dragon evolving naturally on Earth. I was about to start pretending that the Monsterverse was anything like realistic, but then I caught myself. :lol:


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