The Alien and Predator Discussion Thread (1979-2018)

For the discussion of non-Toho monster media, tokusatsu franchises, and also for mixed discussion of Toho and non-Toho kaiju media.

There's 12 so pick 6

Alien (1979)
21
19%
Aliens (1986)
21
19%
Predator (1987)
19
17%
Predator 2 (1990)
14
13%
Alien³ (1992)
8
7%
Alien Resurrection (1997)
1
1%
Alien vs. Predator (2004)
10
9%
Aliens vs. Predator: Requiem (2007)
1
1%
Predators (2010)
9
8%
Prometheus (2012)
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3%
Alien Covenant (2017)
2
2%
The Predator (2018)
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Re: The Alien and Predator Discussion Thread (1979-2018)

Postby ROMG4 » Sat Nov 24, 2018 2:53 pm

KillCrites wrote:Unpopular opinion but I love the prequels and what they brought to the Alien universe, especially Covenant. Honestly, the only Alien movies I find BAD are Resurrection and the AVP duology.

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Re: The Alien and Predator Discussion Thread (1979-2018)

Postby KillCrites » Sat Nov 24, 2018 3:15 pm

ROMG4 wrote:
KillCrites wrote:Unpopular opinion but I love the prequels and what they brought to the Alien universe, especially Covenant. Honestly, the only Alien movies I find BAD are Resurrection and the AVP duology.

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And Alien 3 The Assembly Cut is superior to Aliens in almost every way. :lol:
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Re: The Alien and Predator Discussion Thread (1979-2018)

Postby Maverick Centigrade » Sat Nov 24, 2018 3:18 pm

I saw a compilation of clips from The Predator, and there were two scenes that stood out to me with the Fugitive Predator.

One scene was the Fugitive Predator attacking an armored truck and killing the soldiers in the back, the driver hears the commotion, and asks if everything is ok. The Predator then takes a severed arm, and arranges the fingers to give a thumbs up, and slides the arm to the front where the driver is. I thought that was kinda funny, and an interesting interaction with a human and Predator.

Another scene was the Fugitive Predator taking a member of the main cast hostage in front of the other characters, the whole squad points their weapons at him, the Predator then dabs his finger to the ground, signaling the others to drop their weapons. Another interaction I liked. It's cool when filmmakers show humans and Predators communicating with one another.
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Re: The Alien and Predator Discussion Thread (1979-2018)

Postby MechaGoji Bro7503 » Thu Dec 13, 2018 2:40 pm

The Predator Holiday special teaser: https://youtu.be/eDUP3gtKvhE


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Re: The Alien and Predator Discussion Thread (1979-2018)

Postby GodzillaFan1990's » Thu Dec 13, 2018 9:09 pm

MechaGoji Bro7503 wrote:The Predator Holiday special teaser: https://youtu.be/eDUP3gtKvhE


Alrighty then.

That video alone was millions of times better then what was the crapfest known as The Predator (2018). I guarantee the same with that short as well being millions of times better.
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Re: The Alien and Predator Discussion Thread (1979-2018)

Postby Grievous » Thu Dec 27, 2018 4:19 pm

Remember when both these franchises were awesome & hadn't been
destroyed by horrible films with terrible, "retconning" screenplays?

I do...

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Re: The Alien and Predator Discussion Thread (1979-2018)

Postby Zarm » Thu Dec 27, 2018 4:41 pm

1991, before a Queen Egg was retconned aboard the Sulaco? ;)

Yeah, both franchises have fallen on hard times. But then, that seems to be the story for a lot of different franchises these days...
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Re: The Alien and Predator Discussion Thread (1979-2018)

Postby GodzillaFan1990's » Thu Dec 27, 2018 4:44 pm

I really hope no more Alien and Predator films get made. They both need to die especially Predator considering the latest movie which was such a joke...-_-

And the prequel Alien movies were just so unnecessary. Not EVERYTHING needs to be demystified. That's what made the xenomorphs so scary to begin with. Not knowing the unknown.

As with other horror franchises like Halloween, Friday the 13th and Nightmare on Elm Street. There's nothing more they can do with them that's new. Just watch the classics instead. Hollywood needs to leave nostalgia alone or stop remaking it because its only a matter of time until we get an inevitable Jaws remake.
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Re: The Alien and Predator Discussion Thread (1979-2018)

Postby MechaGoji Bro7503 » Thu Dec 27, 2018 6:37 pm

Well, I thought A3 was great - that's coming from a guy that's only seen the standard cut.

Are you guys excited for the new Alien game, Alien: Blackout? It's from a smaller studio but I hope it delivers.
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Re: The Alien and Predator Discussion Thread (1979-2018)

Postby GodzillaFan1990's » Thu Dec 27, 2018 8:06 pm

MechaGoji Bro7503 wrote:Are you guys excited for the new Alien game, Alien: Blackout? It's from a smaller studio but I hope it delivers.

Games and comics should be the only form of continuing the Alien and Predator franchises. Movies though otherwise needs to stay dead.

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Re: The Alien and Predator Discussion Thread (1979-2018)

Postby Maverick Centigrade » Fri Dec 28, 2018 10:24 am

So I'm copy and pasting this post from AVPGALAXY. I made it back in June, my ideas on making a brand new Predator game. I just wanted to know what you guys thought.

So yesterday I took a survey for Square Enix I found over on /v/ (4chan). At the end they asked what type of game would I like to see them make, I suggested Predator. So then I started to thinking more about the idea. What should a triple A Predator game be like? So let's share some ideas, see what we can come up with.

Personally I think we should go with a 3rd person action game, with mixes of shooter, and hack n slash gameplay. Another idea is customization of our Predator character, going from the physical appearance, to even a class/ranking system.

For physical appearance, there can be the skin color of course, height, muscle mass, all within acceptable parameters. Then we can move on to eye color, mandibles, dreadlock length and jewelery.

Next up would be armor, borrowing stuff from the movies, comics, and original designs. There's tons of opportunity here. Hell why not add in a feature that would allow us to create our own biomask?

The next topic is setting and map size. What do you prefer? Should a Predator game be set on Earth in the present day? Or the future? Where should the game be set anyway, cities or jungles?

I'm in favor of an open world approach, huge maps, with tons to do. However instead of being set on Earth, how about a developing Earth like planet? That way we could hunt more than humans, there could be tons more alien creatures to collect.

So these are my ideas, what about yours? Share em.
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Re: The Alien and Predator Discussion Thread (1979-2018)

Postby Maritonic » Fri Dec 28, 2018 10:32 am

That all sounds nice, but I don't know. The Alien and Predator video games tend to do well when they're most directly channeling the feel of their films. Alien: Isolation re-creates the feel and tension of the original Alien SO well. Predator: Concrete Jungle you felt like a Predator in the city.

I think those are definitely interesting concepts but what would the goal be? Not snark. Curious. Are we talking a glorified space hunter simulator? What about other Predators in the universe? And the lore? Would it fit in the film canon? Would their be Xenos?

I personally think it would be really fun to do a horror survival game against the Predator, though then it's basically just a carbon copy of Alien: Isolation.
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Postby SoggyNoodles2016 » Fri Dec 28, 2018 10:44 am

Maritonic wrote:I personally think it would be really fun to do a horror survival game against the Predator, though then it's basically just a carbon copy of Alien: Isolation.


I had the same idea, only mine was for a Dead by Daylight/Friday The 13th style game where you can play as either a platoon of soldiers/cops/other warriors or the Predator. Thought that could be fun.
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Re: The Alien and Predator Discussion Thread (1979-2018)

Postby Maritonic » Fri Dec 28, 2018 10:45 am

SoggyNoodles2016 wrote:
Maritonic wrote:I personally think it would be really fun to do a horror survival game against the Predator, though then it's basically just a carbon copy of Alien: Isolation.


I had the same idea, only mine was for a Dead by Daylight/Friday The 13th style game where you can play as either a platoon of soldiers/cops/other warriors or the Predator. Thought that could be fun.


As someone who's been playing Friday the 13th since launch, and Dead By Daylight for like 2 years, I can't BELIEVE I didn't think of this.

THIS is a good goddamn idea. A DAMN good idea.
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Postby GodzillaFan1990's » Fri Dec 28, 2018 10:46 am

I'd buy it. :D

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Postby SoggyNoodles2016 » Fri Dec 28, 2018 11:02 am

Thanks, guys. :D

Speaking of Isolation, are some console versions better then others? Asking because I found the Xbox One version for $20 dollars on Amazon and want to know if there's a reason for that price before I buy.
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Postby Maritonic » Fri Dec 28, 2018 11:03 am

SoggyNoodles2016 wrote:Thanks, guys. :D

Speaking of Isolation, are some console versions better then others? Asking because I found the Xbox One version for $20 dollars on Amazon and want to know if there's a reason for that price before I buy.


Not that I'm aware of. I had it on both PS3 and now currently PS4. Aside from the graphics difference there, no real difference.
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Re: The Alien and Predator Discussion Thread (1979-2018)

Postby MechaGoji Bro7503 » Fri Dec 28, 2018 12:11 pm

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MechaGoji Bro7503 wrote:Are you guys excited for the new Alien game, Alien: Blackout? It's from a smaller studio but I hope it delivers.

Games and comics should be the only form of continuing the Alien and Predator franchises. Movies though otherwise needs to stay dead.

I will say that games and comics can expand more on certain things moreso than a film, but I still believe a good solo story for each creature or an AVP film can still be made by someone who understands them. Like for instance, that fanfilm from a while back, Predator: Dark Ages was pretty good. Who knows what filmmaker and storyteller comes along with the "right" vison.

Actually...... this might sound crazy but what about an animated rated-R 100ish minute Predator film? I don't care what animation style, but maybe it could be a safer way of releasing Predator films while exploring new ideas that aren't half assed. Or doing a Predator game that doesn't have clunky gameplay, especially since we should take the honor code into consideration.
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Re: The Alien and Predator Discussion Thread (1979-2018)

Postby Godzilla21 » Fri Dec 28, 2018 12:13 pm

I still love Predator Concrete Jungle. Of all the Pred games it's the one where I feel most "Predator" like. The stalking missions combined with the all out action missions are a good mix. Plus I love the different costumes
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Re: The Alien and Predator Discussion Thread (1979-2018)

Postby Maritonic » Fri Dec 28, 2018 12:14 pm

MechaGoji Bro7503 wrote:
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MechaGoji Bro7503 wrote:Are you guys excited for the new Alien game, Alien: Blackout? It's from a smaller studio but I hope it delivers.

Games and comics should be the only form of continuing the Alien and Predator franchises. Movies though otherwise needs to stay dead.

I will say that games and comics can expand more on certain things moreso than a film, but I still believe a good solo story for each creature or an AVP film can still be made by someone who understands them. Like for instance, that fanfilm from a while back, Predator: Dark Ages was pretty good. Who knows what filmmaker and storyteller comes along with the "right" vison.

Actually...... this might sound crazy but what about an animated rated-R 100ish minute Predator film? I don't care what animation style, but maybe it could be a safer way of releasing Predator films while exploring new ideas that aren't half assed. Or doing a Predator game that doesn't have clunky gameplay, especially since we should take the honor code into consideration.


I still think we have a Predator film that goes back in time. We know, from Predator 2, that they've been coming to Earth before Arnold met his Predator. I would love to see a Feudal Japan set Predator, or a Vietnam set Predator. They're drawn to heat and conflict. Hell. An Iraq War set Predator, for gods sake.

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Godzilla21 wrote:I still love Predator Concrete Jungle. Of all the Pred games it's the one where I feel most "Predator" like. The stalking missions combined with the all out action missions are a good mix. Plus I love the different costumes


Definitely. Replayed it a bunch of times. I had a lot of fun playing Concrete Jungle.
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