The Alien and Predator Discussion Thread (1979-2012)

For the discussion of non-Toho monster media, tokusatsu franchises, and also for mixed discussion of Toho and non-Toho kaiju media.

There's 10 so pick 5

Alien (1979)
90
19%
Aliens (1986)
98
21%
Predator (1987)
90
19%
Predator 2 (1990)
44
9%
Alien³ (1992)
21
4%
Alien Resurrection (1997)
16
3%
Alien vs. Predator (2004)
29
6%
Aliens vs. Predator: Requiem (2007)
12
3%
Predators (2010)
46
10%
Prometheus (2012)
29
6%
 
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Re: AvP talkback threads: Aliens vs. Predator: Requiem (2007

Postby G1 Startruck Jonez » Tue Aug 24, 2010 9:18 am

It was better than that crapfest AvP.
But thats still not saying anything.
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Re: AvP talkback threads: Aliens vs. Predator: Requiem (2007

Postby Spirit Ghidorah 2010 » Tue Aug 24, 2010 9:43 am

It's not that good. A few parts plodded on too much. It's far better than Alien 3, but that doesn't attest to much.
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Re: AvP talkback threads: Aliens vs. Predator: Requiem (2007

Postby Mini-Godzilla » Tue Aug 24, 2010 10:13 am

A vast improvement over the first AVP, but that does not save this from being a mediocre movie. It is a straight B-movie, and it delivers on that front. As a Predator sequel, it's perfectly fine (as good as Predator 2, certainly). As an Alien sequel, it's laughably inept, but it at least touches upon the disturbing nature of the original film (especially in the unfairly maligned pregnancy rape scene, which is totally in line with the tone of the Alien films).
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Re: AvP talkback threads: Aliens vs. Predator: Requiem (2007

Postby Arrow » Tue Aug 24, 2010 10:25 am

Better than AvP? Sure. But the film is still pretty blah. Near the bottom of the franchise for me.

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Re: AvP talkback threads: Aliens vs. Predator: Requiem (2007

Postby JVM » Tue Aug 24, 2010 11:59 am

It had a lot of potential. What hurt it for me was it was insanely dark and hard to see goddamn EVERYTHING, and there were too many human characters to balance properly.

I like it, but I prefer Predators, and I don't think I can fairly compare it to any of the other films.
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Re: AvP talkback threads: Aliens vs. Predator: Requiem (2007

Postby mecha-gino » Tue Aug 24, 2010 12:32 pm

I'm going to be honest, this film was Hedorah. Not the Hedorah but rather IS Hedorah.

Atfirst I was looking foward to it and the trailer really had me hyped but as soon as it came to DVD ugh... I would of thought this new Major badass predator would be awesome and while he did have some awesome moments I hate it how he got his ass handed to him a number of times.

AVP is superior in my book, even though most of the predators got owned in that one it's still miles upon miles better then this terrible sequal. AVP may not live up to alien/aliens or predator 1/2/S but I still like it alot.
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Re: AvP talkback threads: Aliens vs. Predator: Requiem (2007

Postby HayesAJones » Tue Aug 24, 2010 1:36 pm

It's mindless fun, but doesn't have much else going for it. At least it went back to an R rating. And I was surprised that they killed the younger brother's love interest, too.
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Re: AvP talkback threads: Aliens vs. Predator: Requiem (2007

Postby Zilla103192 » Tue Aug 24, 2010 4:43 pm

ok... i have my sheild and helmet ready...

i actuallt really liked AVPR. I thought it was a decent film. I loved the story as well as the idea to bring just regular suburban people into the action... it was fun. i really liked it...

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Re: AvP talkback threads: Aliens vs. Predator: Requiem (2007

Postby gvamp » Tue Aug 24, 2010 4:44 pm

It's okay a lot better than the first AvP film.
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Re: AvP talkback threads: Aliens vs. Predator: Requiem (2007

Postby Zilla103192 » Tue Aug 24, 2010 4:48 pm

oh... and tyler.... could you add a "Both" option to the poll? because i am a huge fan of both series. :P
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Re: AvP talkback threads: Aliens vs. Predator: Requiem (2007

Postby cloverfan98 » Tue Aug 24, 2010 4:57 pm

While I DO enjoy, AVPR as mindless fun, this is the worst A/P/ or AVP movie ever. Hardly any plot, stupid characters, stupid lines, too much focus on gore and nothing else, and I could not see a darn thing!

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Re: AvP talkback threads: Aliens vs. Predator: Requiem (2007

Postby Zilla103192 » Tue Aug 24, 2010 5:02 pm

i feel that AVP was more like the predator series in alot of ways, while AVPR was more along the lines of the Alien series.
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Re: AvP talkback threads: Aliens vs. Predator: Requiem (2007

Postby Hellblaze » Thu Aug 26, 2010 2:25 am

I hated this movie not just because it's a bad movie it's because so many innocent kids and babies die usually in all horror movies it involves adults and seeing kids die like this is horrible. This is my first movie with kids being killed off. I saw this on FX and didn't like it. I liked the first one better cause the Predator is a good guy for once in this one he isn't instead he just kills a cop by ripping his skin off and hanging him by the tree for the police buddies to find. I liked the first one at least that guy was a good guy. :|
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Re: AvP talkback threads: Aliens vs. Predator: Requiem (2007

Postby Mini-Godzilla » Thu Aug 26, 2010 12:40 pm

Hellblaze wrote:I hated this movie not just because it's a bad movie it's because so many innocent kids and babies die usually in all horror movies it involves adults and seeing kids die like this is horrible. This is my first movie with kids being killed off. I saw this on FX and didn't like it. I liked the first one better cause the Predator is a good guy for once in this one he isn't instead he just kills a cop by ripping his skin off and hanging him by the tree for the police buddies to find. I liked the first one at least that guy was a good guy. :|

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Re: AvP talkback threads: Aliens vs. Predator: Requiem (2007

Postby Zilla103192 » Thu Aug 26, 2010 2:22 pm

heres my response to the "Predator was a good guy" post

I say that The Predators only Hunt "Fair Game". as in humans or other species that pose an actual threat... thus making their own hunt more challenging... since The woman in AVP didnt have a gun... he did not hunt her... same goes for the woman and child in AVPR. They just want a fair fight...

its like us hunting... most of us dont kill a doe... its not a good prize... but a buck? we will shoot on the spot once they show up...
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Re: Aliens vs. Predator: Requiem (2007)

Postby Mini-Godzilla » Sun Nov 21, 2010 8:31 pm

Monster Master wrote:There's really no reason why it has to be a prequel to alien now, but take place between Alien 3 and A:R maybe?


Well, A:R establishes that there have been no reported sightings of the Aliens in the 200 years since Alien 3, so such a story might be problematic.
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Re: Aliens vs. Predator: Requiem (2007)

Postby gvamp » Sun Nov 21, 2010 8:58 pm

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Monster Master wrote:There's really no reason why it has to be a prequel to alien now, but take place between Alien 3 and A:R maybe?


Well, A:R establishes that there have been no reported sightings of the Aliens in the 200 years since Alien 3, so such a story might be problematic.


Not if you ignore A:R it won't be and lets be honest who wants to remember that?
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Re: Aliens vs. Predator: Requiem (2007)

Postby Goji » Sun Nov 21, 2010 9:23 pm

I can't help but like this movie. It's pure fan service, plain and simple. I think other die hard Alien/Predator fans can relate.

It feels like a Hollywood made, exploitation film at times.. Really, really bad, but still manages to deliver the goods. "Wolf" is one bad ass Predator, and it was nice to see an Elite Predator actually realized on screen. Tom Woodruff was great as the Hybrid Alien, and it was nice to see the look of the Xeno's go back to what we saw in ALIENS (considering that Cameron Alien design was primarily the design you saw in the original ALIENS VS. PREDATOR comics. I adore the Giger Alien, but after RESURRECTION and the first AvP, I was burnt out on half baked versions of of it. (with all due respect to Alec Gillis and his team, they're fantastic).
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Re: Aliens vs. Predator: Requiem (2007)

Postby TitanoGoji16 » Mon Nov 22, 2010 4:15 am

Mini-Godzilla wrote:Well, A:R establishes that there have been no reported sightings of the Aliens in the 200 years since Alien 3


That's easy enough. Just make sure none of the human characters survive the movie. :P
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Re: Aliens vs. Predator: Requiem (2007)

Postby Spirit Ghidorah 2010 » Mon Nov 22, 2010 4:55 am

It's better than that shitpile Alien 3.
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