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Re: IDW's GODZILLA General Discussion

Postby o.supreme » Wed Mar 28, 2012 8:06 am

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Postby Rody » Wed Mar 28, 2012 2:00 pm

No, please no. I DO NOT want to see Godzilla dirtied by that topic.

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Postby Gorosaurus Rex » Wed Mar 28, 2012 2:05 pm

Rody wrote:No, please no. I DO NOT want to see Godzilla dirtied by that topic.


:roll:

It wasn't like they made a big deal out of it. The character's gay. They weren't making a statement. This is about ten times less controversial/possibly offensive than much of the material dished out in Kingdom of Monsters.
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Re: IDW's GODZILLA General Discussion

Postby Tormentor » Wed Mar 28, 2012 2:10 pm

Gorosaurus Rex wrote:
:roll:

It wasn't like they made a big deal out of it. The character's gay. They weren't making a statement. This is about ten times less controversial/possibly offensive than much of the material dished out in Kingdom of Monsters.


Beat me to the punch! Honestly there isn't any social issue being directed or stated at the reader. There's a homosexual marriage being taken place and it was crashed by a monster. Where's the deal in that? Honestly some fans tend to overrate at things so minor that I can't help but shake my head in disappointment.

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Re: IDW's GODZILLA General Discussion

Postby TokyoVigilante » Wed Mar 28, 2012 2:17 pm

Tormentor wrote:
Gorosaurus Rex wrote:
:roll:

It wasn't like they made a big deal out of it. The character's gay. They weren't making a statement. This is about ten times less controversial/possibly offensive than much of the material dished out in Kingdom of Monsters.


Beat me to the punch! Honestly there isn't any social issue being directed or stated at the reader. There's a homosexual marriage being taken place and it was crashed by a monster. Where's the deal in that? Honestly some fans tend to overrate at things so minor that I can't help but shake my head in disappointment.

Considering how elementary school the response was to a Lady Gaga caricature being combined with Godzilla, I'm not in the least bit surprised.
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Postby Destroyer » Wed Mar 28, 2012 2:22 pm

Well.....it's good to see Kumonga back in action.
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Postby Rody » Wed Mar 28, 2012 2:25 pm

I'm sorry if I come across as extreme, but I don't want to see this stuff at ALL. It really annoyed me to see it brought up in Doctor Who, and seeing it in my most favorite franchise -- even if only briefly -- is very off-putting.

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Postby ゴジラ » Wed Mar 28, 2012 2:26 pm

Why do I have a feeling that some fans will be nitpicky that the main character is a homosexual.

Beyond the elephant in the room I must say that story thus far has already gotten me interested within this series, and the art is much better than KOM, great to see the quality shine. :)

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Postby UltramanGoji » Wed Mar 28, 2012 2:28 pm

ゴジラ wrote:Why do I have a feeling that some fans will be nitpicky that the main character is a homosexual.


I don't think its the main character...
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Postby TokyoVigilante » Wed Mar 28, 2012 2:29 pm

Rody wrote:I'm sorry if I come across as extreme, but I don't want to see this stuff at ALL. It really annoyed me to see it brought up in Doctor Who, and seeing it in my most favorite franchise -- even if only briefly -- is very off-putting.

But it's entirely inconsequential; it's nothing. It's there because there are such things as gay Mexicans who frequently partake in gay Mexican weddings. It's not making any statements, it's just an action set piece. There is nothing to get remotely bothered by in any capacity.

Godzilla can't exist in a vacuum completely free of any grounding to the real world; that's how a franchise withers and dies. That barely even applies because this isn't anything in any way.
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Re: IDW's GODZILLA General Discussion

Postby Gorosaurus Rex » Wed Mar 28, 2012 2:30 pm

ゴジラ wrote:Why do I have a feeling that some fans will be nitpicky that the main character is a homosexual.



Because Rody and some of the fans on the Matt Frank link already are. The fact is, gay people exist. Just like people of different ethnicities, you are bound to meet homosexuals as you go through life. Regardless of what you think of their lifestyle, the fact of the matter is they exist. For those of you that are bothered by it, simply view it as a character trait. The comic isn't trying to be gay propaganda.
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Postby TokyoVigilante » Wed Mar 28, 2012 2:33 pm

That isn't Boxer.
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Re: IDW's GODZILLA General Discussion

Postby Goodzilla » Wed Mar 28, 2012 2:36 pm

I like Gane's Godzilla, it looks way better the Santos drawings.

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Re: IDW's GODZILLA General Discussion

Postby Blackout286 » Wed Mar 28, 2012 2:37 pm

UltramanGoji wrote:
ゴジラ wrote:Why do I have a feeling that some fans will be nitpicky that the main character is a homosexual.


I don't think its the main character...


I don't think he is (And TV just cleared it up for those confused). Still I have to give the guy props for thinking in the heat of madness and mayhem. Sure he didn't kill Kumonga or injure the monster, but at least he thought it out more clearly then the dad in KOM #2.

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Postby Rody » Wed Mar 28, 2012 2:58 pm

I got the impression that he's ONE of the lead characters, though. And it's not as inconsequential as some are saying.
If this guy is going to be a recurring character, we have to sympathize for him. The fact that he is homosexual, and that such a relationship is supposed to be the tragedy here, makes it very difficult for me to sympathize with him.
If we never see this guy again, it won't bother me quite as much. Nevertheless, it is there.

Anyway, the artwork is at least an improvement. It doesn't look GREAT, but it's not BAD either.
I wish they didn't go with Heisei Godzilla, though.

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Re: IDW's GODZILLA General Discussion

Postby Kaijusamurai » Wed Mar 28, 2012 3:00 pm

Rody wrote:I'm sorry if I come across as extreme, but I don't want to see this stuff at ALL. It really annoyed me to see it brought up in Doctor Who, and seeing it in my most favorite franchise -- even if only briefly -- is very off-putting.


Raymond Burr was gay.

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Re: IDW's GODZILLA General Discussion

Postby Gorosaurus Rex » Wed Mar 28, 2012 3:02 pm

Rody wrote:I got the impression that he's ONE of the lead characters, though. And it's not as inconsequential as some are saying.
If this guy is going to be a recurring character, we have to sympathize for him. The fact that he is homosexual, and that such a relationship is supposed to be the tragedy here, makes it very difficult for me to sympathize with him.


I'm sorry that this bothers you so much, but would the character being gay really make you treat him as a less valid character? That seems a bit extreme.
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Re: IDW's GODZILLA General Discussion

Postby Blackout286 » Wed Mar 28, 2012 4:24 pm

Could people really get offended at a gay representation within a Godzilla comic? I'm really having a difficult time in seeing this. (I know no one here said it, just looking at what's going on in Kaijusamurai's blog). But maybe that's because I don't see anyone actually caring for a fictional story and its story when there are more important matters in the real world.

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Postby Lord Gappa » Wed Mar 28, 2012 5:28 pm

Blackout286 wrote:Could people really get offended at a gay representation

Extreme Christians do that all the time.
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