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Re: IDW's GODZILLA General Discussion

Postby Gigantis » Sat Jan 18, 2020 4:14 am

Kaiju-King42 wrote:^Are all the IDW Godzillas 60 meters, or just Rage Across Time?


I think they all are.
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Re: IDW's GODZILLA General Discussion

Postby ACHINKONGGOJI » Sat Jan 18, 2020 8:25 pm

Isn't one at least 100 meters? (Rulers Of Earth)
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Re: IDW's GODZILLA General Discussion

Postby kaijukurt » Tue Jan 21, 2020 4:24 am

ACHINKONGGOJI wrote:Isn't one at least 100 meters? (Rulers Of Earth)


ROE Godzilla is definitely 100 meters. Matt Frank & Jeff Zornow have mentioned in the past that 100 meters is how they imagine Godzilla when doing the art.

LSD Jellyfish wrote:It feels like a comic where there’s an actual story, rather than “let’s make excuses for monsters to show up and fight” like ROE. Godzilla the Half Century War is similar to that.

I really liked the “gritty” take on the Showa Mothra plot. I think in some ways the comics story is actually better than the 1992 film.

I think the series suffered from the fact it was pre ROE when everyone wanted to see more action.


Do you mean HCW being similar to G&G or to ROE? It seemed to strike a balance for me between delivering likable characters and good themes (like G&G) while delivering fan-friendly kaiju moments (like ROE).

Concerning pre-ROE, I’m a bit bummed out that Powell & Marsh never really got to fully execute their concept of “Mad Max but with Godzilla” according to an interview. Just when things were getting interesting story-wise (Sgt. Woods discovers MechaG!), the two left the series.
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Re: IDW's GODZILLA General Discussion

Postby ACHINKONGGOJI » Tue Jan 21, 2020 5:15 pm

What about Half Centry, G in Hell, and Rage across time?
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Re: IDW's GODZILLA General Discussion

Postby G2000 » Wed Jan 22, 2020 4:12 am

Haven’t read them all but so far HCW remains my favorite, Godzilla In Hell was a pretty neat experimental sort of thing, Cataclysm was okay, the ongoings all varied wildly in quality across all areas (art, writing, etc.) Rage Across Time was pretty mediocre and underwhelming, and Oblivion just flat out suuuuuucked (let’s have a random Israeli soldier hanging around for no real reason other than to make a brief reference to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict so we can pretend we actually have something to say woohoooo)
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Re: IDW's GODZILLA General Discussion

Postby SonOfGorgo » Thu Jan 23, 2020 3:12 pm

I'm kindof curious about whether or not IDW still has the licence or has it expired yet, or...
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Re: IDW's GODZILLA General Discussion

Postby Destorogoji » Tue Mar 10, 2020 2:54 pm

SonOfGorgo wrote:I'm kindof curious about whether or not IDW still has the licence or has it expired yet, or...

They have the license to reprint their stuff, but not really to make anything new. Specially since IDW is struggling financially right now. They're getting all they can from their most important license: Transformers. They're making Transformers/My Little Pony and Transformers/Terminator both this year.
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Now that I think about it, wouldn't be cool to have a Godzilla/Transformers crossover?
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Re: IDW's GODZILLA General Discussion

Postby The Octopus » Tue Mar 17, 2020 2:31 pm

Destorogoji wrote:Transformers/My Little Pony


Man , they're getting desperate for crossover ideas.
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Re: IDW's GODZILLA General Discussion

Postby mikelcho » Thu Mar 19, 2020 7:17 pm

I just want to find out whether or not they're going to continue the mainstream Godzilla storyline and bring in Minilla, like they planned to do before.

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Postby UltramanGoji » Thu Mar 19, 2020 8:28 pm

mikelcho wrote:I just want to find out whether or not they're going to continue the mainstream Godzilla storyline and bring in Minilla, like they planned to do before.


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Re: IDW's GODZILLA General Discussion

Postby Gigantis » Sat Mar 21, 2020 10:00 am

Honestly i think the IDW comics are over with. The company is using more recognizable properties to sustain and i don' think Godzilla is one of them.
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Re: IDW's GODZILLA General Discussion

Postby gottatalktothefake » Sat Mar 21, 2020 7:53 pm

I thought the Godzilla vs gargantuas fight was stupid
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Re: IDW's GODZILLA General Discussion

Postby LSD Jellyfish » Sat Mar 21, 2020 9:39 pm

gottatalktothefake wrote:I thought the Godzilla vs gargantuas fight was stupid

Why? I don’t necessarily disagree, but I think the dynamic of two smaller monsters working together, and the novelty of the gargantuas themselves with Godzilla was cool enough.
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Re: IDW's GODZILLA General Discussion

Postby Kaiju-King42 » Mon Mar 23, 2020 4:29 am

LSD Jellyfish wrote:
gottatalktothefake wrote:I thought the Godzilla vs gargantuas fight was stupid

Why? I don’t necessarily disagree, but I think the dynamic of two smaller monsters working together, and the novelty of the gargantuas themselves with Godzilla was cool enough.


It was a nice nod to that *supposed canceled "Godzilla vs the Gargantuas" film too.


*Supposed because a lot of those famous "canceled films" have turned out to be fake, like Godzilla vs the Devil. And I have not been keeping up to date on that.
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Re: IDW's GODZILLA General Discussion

Postby Gigantis » Mon Mar 23, 2020 1:48 pm

So if these comics do manage to bounce back, what storylines you think they can do?

I'd personally like maybe including Latitude Zero into a plot. Godzilla goes underground and finds a world full of weird creatures.
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Re: IDW's GODZILLA General Discussion

Postby Jetty_Jags » Mon Mar 23, 2020 2:36 pm

I don't know if they would do it, but expand into the mythos of some of Godzilla's rogue's gallery in the style of Gangsters and Goliaths. We've had a lot of comics follow Godzilla, but lets see something new, maybe go into king Caesar's history. Delve into Seatopian society, hell have a one off series attempt to do that Jet Jaguar Salary-man idea that I can't help but bring up every once in a while. Whatever it is, I'd just like a story that really shows humans interacting with these monsters, as we have had our fair share of godzilla fighting onslaughts of monsters. But I don't think this is realistic at all, assuming them coming back to godzilla is relatively possible.
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Re: IDW's GODZILLA General Discussion

Postby LockBite » Tue Apr 14, 2020 9:27 pm

So I just bought the Complete Rulers of the Earth Vol. 1 which collects issues 1-12 in one nice big book. So I went to buy Vol. 2, which contains 13-final, only to discover its paperback only. Ugh! Now I just wish I bought the smaller volumes collecting 4 issues apiece, because it looks like that’s what I’ll have to do anyway for the second half of the series. My digital collection is gonna look wonky as hell.

I really hope IDW makes a digital version of Vol. 2.

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Re: IDW's GODZILLA General Discussion

Postby mikelcho » Wed Apr 15, 2020 3:41 pm

tyrantgoji wrote:So if these comics do manage to bounce back, what storylines you think they can do?

I'd personally like maybe including Latitude Zero into a plot. Godzilla goes underground and finds a world full of weird creatures.
I'd like to see them do these things:

*bring Ganimes into the ongoing storyline and thus complete the Space Amoeba trio of kaiju,
*give Kamoebas a more prominent role in the ongoing storyline (I think he was just barely introduced at the end of Godzilla: Rulers of Earth, but I'm not sure),
*bring Megalon into the present day in the ongoing storyline (IIRC, he was only seen in Godzilla: Rulers of Earth in a flashback scene from the past battling King Caesar),
*bring Minilla into the ongoing storyline like they planned to do in the first place (and please let him be the 2004 version and let him age normally into an adult Godzilla),
*bring Frankenstein (the Toho version) into the ongoing storyline and somehow have him connected to Sanda and Gaira,
*bring the Oodako (and maybe Maguma) into the ongoing storyline,
*bring Gabara into the ongoing storyline and this time, make him a real kaiju and not one from a dreamworld,
*resolve the part of the ongoing storyline that shows Gigan being repaired at the end of Godzilla: Rulers of Earth.

In other words, continue the ongoing storyline (or at least bring it to, at the most, a satisfactory end) and, at the same time, bring in the last few remaining Toho kaiju that are left while it can still be done.
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Re: IDW's GODZILLA General Discussion

Postby Terasawa » Wed Apr 15, 2020 6:56 pm

mikelcho wrote:*bring Frankenstein (the Toho version) into the storyline and have him connected to Sanda and Gaira,


I wonder if Frankenstein would fall under the banner of "human" cast/characters that caused Toho to forbid IDW the use of the Space M aliens. It's not explained why those characters are forbidden in this this interview, but knowing Toho, I wonder if it's to avoid using the likeness of real persons (in this case Koji Furuhata).

Frankenstein is nowhere to be found on the 1997 Toshiba-released soundtrack or in the Godzilla X Mothra X Mechagodzilla: Tokyo SOS Fantastic Collection, published in 2002 by Asahisonorama (despite being mentioned by name in a graphic featuring the film's other monsters). I don't know why that is but I'll speculate it has something to do with likeness and licensing matters.
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Re: IDW's GODZILLA General Discussion

Postby mikelcho » Wed Apr 15, 2020 7:35 pm

Terasawa wrote:
mikelcho wrote:*bring Frankenstein (the Toho version) into the storyline and have him connected to Sanda and Gaira,


I wonder if Frankenstein would fall under the banner of "human" cast/characters that caused Toho to forbid IDW the use of the Space M aliens. It's not explained why those characters are forbidden in this interview, but knowing Toho, I wonder if it's to avoid using the likeness of real persons (in this case Koji Furuhata).

Frankenstein is nowhere to be found on the 1997 Toshiba-released soundtrack or in the Godzilla X Mothra X Mechagodzilla: Tokyo SOS Fantastic Collection, published in 2002 by Asahisonorama (despite being mentioned by name in a graphic featuring the film's other monsters). I don't know why that is but I'll speculate it has something to do with likeness and licensing matters.
Oh, I didn't know this at all. I figured that since Frankenstein; or, The Modern Prometheus is in the public domain, Toho could use their version of the Frankenstein Monster. This is very interesting - and sure puts a monkey wrench in the works in this particular case.

I take it, though, everything else in the list is fine.
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