IDW's GODZILLA General Discussion

[Agent Smith]

I agree the artwork is kinda awkward. Doesn't mean it will be bad but the style isn't too impressive.

[GodzillaBurgh]

I wonder if they ever incorporate unmade kaiju like Bagan or Deutalios or even any kaiju from the REBIRTH OF MOTHRA trilogy. I would even like IDW to do Gamera for a change.

[Mr. Yellow]

Not sure what IDW's arrangement is with Toho this time, but if Toho is OK with giving Super7 "all the kaiju" then who knows...

[steven]

The story sounds promising


Godzilla being taught compassion for humans is a subject matter that has a lot of potential

[SoggyNoodles2016]

I wonder if they ever incorporate unmade kaiju like Bagan or Deutalios or even any kaiju from the REBIRTH OF MOTHRA trilogy. I would even like IDW to do Gamera for a change.

ROM Trilogy dudes are likely, given they got looped into Defense Force, others aren't.

Bagan and Deutalios technically don't exist so Toho would have to create them to license them out and they've made it clear before they're not interested in that (but ironically, also will react if you do it without them)

Gamera is a different right all together.

[GigaBowserG]

Bagan and Deutalios technically don't exist so Toho would have to create them to license them out and they've made it clear before they're not interested in that (but ironically, also will react if you do it without them)

Untrue!... at least in Bagan's case. His appearance in Super Godzilla was enough to make him official, he even got one of those little Toho trademark logos out of it, which appeared in Godzilla Movie Studio Tour. Now whether or not IDW has anyone who'd be willing to write with him is another story. Matt Frank shared a pretty fun retelling of Super Godzilla that'd work really well as a comic, imo.

Also, seconded for the ROM monsters making an appearance. Leo's a beast, it'd be great to see him kicking ass again after all these years, even if in a one off comic.

[LSD Jellyfish]

Bagan and Deutalios technically don't exist so Toho would have to create them to license them out and they've made it clear before they're not interested in that (but ironically, also will react if you do it without them)

Untrue!... at least in Bagan's case. His appearance in Super Godzilla was enough to make him official, he even got one of those little Toho trademark logos out of it, which appeared in Godzilla Movie Studio Tour. Now whether or not IDW has anyone who'd be willing to write with him is another story. Matt Frank shared a pretty fun retelling of Super Godzilla that'd work really well as a comic, imo.

Also, seconded for the ROM monsters making an appearance. Leo's a beast, it'd be great to see him kicking ass again after all these years, even if in a one off comic.

Is Super Godzilla trademarked as well? As in the form used to fight Bagan?

[Major sssspielberg!]

It doesn't seem like they do. I figured they'd have trademarks for Skeleturtle at this point

[GigaBowserG]

Is Super Godzilla trademarked as well? As in the form used to fight Bagan?

Wish I could say for Super Godzilla, I can only assume he's lumped under the Godzilla trademark, much like all the Mechagodzillas save for Super MG.

Regarding Skeleturtle (called "Mystery Bones of Infant Island" in Japan), there was some merch released for it some years ago, but I'm not sure if the trademark/copyright notices are for it or for the movie it came from, the Japanese is a little difficult to make out.

[Shenanigans]

Didn't IDW have to pay for the rights to each kaiju individually? I seem to remember that they had to ask for each one specifically if they wanted to use them (hence why they only had 13 kaiju for the first couple years) or something to that effect, but character rights are far from my area of expertise. All I know is that, if it's Toho, it's complicated.

Either way, I have a hard time seeing them seeking out the rights to the ROM cast, though it'd be great to see some of those guys getting some love. I always thought it'd be neat to see a story with whole army of Ghidorahs in particular since there's more "subspecies" of Ghidorah than any other kaiju.

The story sounds promising


Godzilla being taught compassion for humans is a subject matter that has a lot of potential

Agreed. Certainly could be very memorable if done right.

Personally, I've always liked Godzilla's "arc" - if you could call it that - in the Showa films, in which he gradually starts protecting mankind over time; would love to see more instances of that overall character progression confined to single stories (instead of just the loose continuity of the Showa era).

Godzilla being a protector or "hero" is a bit of a rarity; at best he's usually just the lesser of two evils who still has it out for humanity. And that's great of course, he's supposed to be a force of nature - something to put humanity in its place when we mess around too much. But it's great to see them shake that up a bit with new stories.

[Shenanigans]

Anyways, here's the solicitation for issue #2 of Monsters and Protectors!



https://www.scifijapan.com/articles/202 ... -may-2021/

“Rise Up!” Part 2: The world knows that the King of the Monsters has been riled up by the Linival energy plants, whose output sent Godzilla on a pan-Pacific destructive spree the likes of which the world has never seen — but the danger is greater than anyone knows. Godzilla is sitting in judgment on humanity, and the verdict could spell doom for life on Earth! The Shobijin become aware of this and know they could ask Mothra to intervene… but does humanity deserve Mothra’s help?

Very interested to see how they handle the Shobijin and Mothra.

[tbeasley]

^ That cover.

[LSD Jellyfish]

Considering how this is aimed towards a younger crowd, and they’ll probably reverse Godzilla’s trajectory as a villain, I wonder how violent the destruction will be. Man, I remember how hyped I used to be getting new Godzilla comics every month.

[daveblackeye15]

I kinda love that cover for the second issue.

"Well that place sure sucked."

[LSD Jellyfish]

I wonder if they'll include any wackier monsters. I mean, Godzilla and Mothra are pretty much standard fare. Given an "evil businessman" it seems likely we'll get an evil mech. I understand this a reboot of sorts, but this isn't like 2011 when Godzilla was just re-entering the spotlight and all the monsters were rare. There's been a big improvement with common rights and knowledge of the character. I want to see something crazy and interesting happen. The best part about the IDW run is how insane it got around the time of midway through ROE with releases like Godzilla in Hell and Rage Across Time. I will give this a chance, but I don't want this to be a generic story.

One big plus I force is how expressive Godzilla is. I can see a lot of neat stuff. Also, since Godzilla got a relatively new redesign (as in not directly based off a specific suit) I'm curious what they will do with the other monsters!

[Shenanigans]

Agreed with wanting to see some crazier stories and monsters. They got really creative with some of those titles, and I'm very eager to see what they have in store for us down the line here.

They ought to do an ongoing anthology series; sort of like Legends with monthly standalone issues with a new team for each issue, but don't stop at just five issues. Also being the guy who put together this exhaustive list, I'd love to see them branch out and continue giving some of the overlooked monsters more love. Wonder if they have the rights to all of those guys again.

[UltramanGoji]

I'm genuinely surprised that Legends didn't continue past its initial five issues. The foundation for that was solid and I could see it returning with an assortment of new artists for another run or two. I hope it's revisited.

[SoggyNoodles2016]

I'm genuinely surprised that Legends didn't continue past its initial five issues. The foundation for that was solid and I could see it returning with an assortment of new artists for another run or two. I hope it's revisited.

Agreed totally, especially because how the last two issues more or less just became normal Godzilla stories with prominent scenes with Kumonga and Hedorah then actual stories about them disconnected from Godzilla.

[Shenanigans]

Tom Waltz from IDW posted some panels from Monsters & Protectors issue #2:

https://twitter.com/TomWaltz/status/1364761018547625989

I'm positively in love with this Mothra design. Surprised they're able to redesign the monsters this time when that was a big no-no before.

[JNewbold54]

Tom Waltz from IDW posted some panels from Monsters & Protectors issue #2:

https://twitter.com/TomWaltz/status/1364761018547625989

I'm positively in love with this Mothra design. Surprised they're able to redesign the monsters this time when that was a big no-no before.

Ooohhh, very floofy, I like it.