Might this be the worst music video ever?

[omgitsgodzilla]

..rap isnt music. It's noise.

Rapping is no different from any kind of percussion instruments, really. They rely on rhythm and intensity for their effect. They're not melodic by any means, but they're not supposed to be. So I guess drums are just noise too.
Look, a lot of rap isn't good, but it's music. And there's plenty of good rap music out there anyway. Almost every genre from rock to pop to rap is dreadfully misrepresented on mainstream radio these days. There's plenty of excellent music in every genre; it just doesn't get much airplay because it's too deep for the dumb teenage girls to understand and enjoy. That's why we've got boy bands, Disney pop, and modern country. They're bland and meaningless. There's no message, which allows the listener to project whatever "meaning" they want onto them. They're a blank slate holding out a piece of chalk for you to write something.

[Showa Gyaos]

^ Have you guys heard rap before?

"****ing her, ****ing him, **** **** *****!" Country folk may be out there, but at least they have some decency and manner.

I don't care for Rap, either.

[omgitsgodzilla]

^ Have you guys heard rap before?

"****ing her, ****ing him, **** **** *****!" Country folk may be out there, but at least they have some decency and manner.

I don't care for Rap, either.

Understandable. Nothing's for everyone.

[King Caesar]

^ Air...that's for everyone (that's living)

I don't mind rap sometimes, but damn it sounds all the same after a while

[wataru]

..rap isnt music. It's noise.

Rapping is no different from any kind of percussion instruments, really. They rely on rhythm and intensity for their effect. They're not melodic by any means, but they're not supposed to be. So I guess drums are just noise too.
Look, a lot of rap isn't good, but it's music. And there's plenty of good rap music out there anyway. Almost every genre from rock to pop to rap is dreadfully misrepresented on mainstream radio these days. There's plenty of excellent music in every genre; it just doesn't get much airplay because it's too deep for the dumb teenage girls to understand and enjoy. That's why we've got boy bands, Disney pop, and modern country. They're bland and meaningless. There's no message, which allows the listener to project whatever "meaning" they want onto them. They're a blank slate holding out a piece of chalk for you to write something.

Rap isn't music, it's noise.

[King Caesar]

Rap isn't music, it's noise.

What's all that in the background? ...that's right! Music! Now singing on the other hand...yeah that's not singing. It still takes a shit-load of talent though

[DrKaiju1954]

My god,everyone at school is talking about this freakin' song.I hope that I never have to hear it because I know ill vomit

[TokyoVigilante]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sODBIGCT5sI

MY FRIENDS COVERED IT. It's a thousand times better.

[wataru]

Rap isn't music, it's noise.

What's all that in the background? ...that's right! Music! Now singing on the other hand...yeah that's not singing. It still takes a shit-load of talent though

I can put Stairway to Heaven on and then recite the phone book with a Norwegain accent and insert words to make it rhyhm, and it isnt music.

Rap isn't music, it's noise.

[omgitsgodzilla]

Rap isn't music, it's noise.

What's all that in the background? ...that's right! Music! Now singing on the other hand...yeah that's not singing. It still takes a shit-load of talent though

I can put Stairway to Heaven on and then recite the phone book with a Norwegain accent and insert words to make it rhyhm, and it isnt music.

Rap isn't music, it's noise.

It would be music. You have the rhyme scheme and so on, and you have the accompaniment of Stairway. Musical notes. A legit composition. It would be music. It wouldn't be particularly original, artistic or good music (unless it's Yoko Ono or someone listening, one of those avant-garde types), but it would be music. Shit, at the least, rap is advanced beat poetry. To me, music is really just sound that makes use of and relies on rhythm and/or tonality for its effect. Whether it's any good is an entirely different matter. Same goes for whether it's art (though trying to argue the artistic merit of something never really seemed to have any point to me). Rapping is to vocal music what a drumset is to instrumental music: It's percussion. It's purely rhythmic. And just as some drummers are amazing while others suck ass, some rappers can put real soul and passion into a song and create a true masterpiece while others just talk about bling, 40s, blunts, cars and bitches over and over and over. No genre is completely consistent in its quality, so saying all rap is completely awful is beyond the reasonable limits of stupidity or ignorance. Making generalizations doesn't really tend to be a good way of looking at the world; I myself made assumptions similar to yours once about not just rap, but popular music in general. Then I actually stopped for a moment to listen. I recommend doing the same; it might not change your mind, but at least you'd have given it a fair shake. I could even recommend a few rappers to start with.

[wataru]

Should I type it again?

[3000]

Rap isn't music, it's noise.

What's all that in the background? ...that's right! Music! Now singing on the other hand...yeah that's not singing. It still takes a shit-load of talent though

I can put Stairway to Heaven on and then recite the phone book with a Norwegain accent and insert words to make it rhyhm, and it isnt music.

Rap isn't music, it's noise.

It's poetry.
If done right, it's music.

If people enjoy it, hell... even if they don't enjoy it, it's music. Its art, in audio form, meant for people to enjoy and vibe to. Music.

You can keep trolling if you wish, old man.

[King Caesar]

Damn, I smell a burnt waturu! Couldn't have said it any better 3000!

[THE GODZILLA]

It's poetry.
If done right, it's music.

If people enjoy it, hell... even if they don't enjoy it, it's music. Its art, in audio form, meant for people to enjoy and vibe to. Music.

You can keep trolling if you wish, old man.

Oh my god, thank you for posting this. I dislike most rap. But just because one dislikes it, doesn't mean it isn't music. It's ignorant to think that way.

Especially when one provides no evidence to support their claim.

[wataru]

It's poetry.
If done right, it's music.

If people enjoy it, hell... even if they don't enjoy it, it's music. Its art, in audio form, meant for people to enjoy and vibe to. Music.

You can keep trolling if you wish, old man.

Oh my god, thank you for posting this. I dislike most rap. But just because one dislikes it, doesn't mean it isn't music. It's ignorant to think that way.

Especially when one provides no evidence to support their claim.

Noise.

[SuperSaiyan4Godzilla]

It's poetry.
If done right, it's music.

If people enjoy it, hell... even if they don't enjoy it, it's music. Its art, in audio form, meant for people to enjoy and vibe to. Music.

You can keep trolling if you wish, old man.

Oh my god, thank you for posting this. I dislike most rap. But just because one dislikes it, doesn't mean it isn't music. It's ignorant to think that way.

Especially when one provides no evidence to support their claim.

Noise.

Wataru, you know what noise I would hate to hear? You having an argument in real life.

Learn to debate.

Shut up and stop spamming.

[THE GODZILLA]

Noise.

Hey look! It's that guy who bitches about people spamming all the time! Oh hey, this is ironic!

Why don't you actually explain why it's just "noise"?

[King Caesar]

^ Everything is technically noise, TG. Sometimes sound just comes off as more melodic than other times.

[THE GODZILLA]

^ Everything is technically noise, TG. Sometimes sound just comes off as more melodic than other times.

Hey, check it out, I stuck noise in quotations! Maybe that's because I want him to explain why rap doesn't have any melody, harmony, etc?

Hur dur?

[HeiseiGodzilla117]

^ Everything is technically noise, TG. Sometimes sound just comes off as more melodic than other times.

No shit, KC. But make sure you contextualize the word with the current discussion. That was entirely unnecessary. I would like to see Wataru give a better argument for why rap isn't music. He's not the only person I've encountered who has that opinion.