Is TK going to be apart of the Internet Strike

[Chris55]

The basic business model of the modern Hollywood production company is that they will lose money on most of their projects, but have one very profitable release to make up for the loses of a few. It's a far riskier model than that of the classical studio system, and films like Mars Needs Moms and Jonah Hex (also a Legendary Pictures release, which lost ~$37 million on its budget, which kicks The Dark Knight under the one billion mark when aggregated) can crush a company if they're not prepared. Even a tycoon like Disney doesn't enjoy losing the near $200 million that Mars Needs Moms lost them. In addition, it's not a very nice time for the industry as a whole. Theater revenue is dropping, putting financial strain on the whole system. Piracy only takes money out of the system. It's not absurd in any sense that corporations wan't to protect their assets and property as much as possible, especially in unstable financial times.

Theater revenue is dropping due to high ticket prices and overall crappy movies. Mars Needs Moms and Jonah Hex were just bad movies.

Make ticket prices lower, produce movies that aren't remakes of board games/old tv shows, only bring out 3D on special occasions (their intake is dropping and getting on people's nerves now), lower concession stand costs and then people will come back to the theaters.

It's what Jesus would do.

[wataru]

I dont understand how Hop made money and Mars Needs Moms lost over 60%. Ive seen both, Hop is WORLDS worse (but I will still own it on Blu-Ray).

It's not the movie that's hurting theatres, it's the theatres hurting themselves. Do you know how many family film comments Ive seen on Demonoid saying "My kids have been begging to see this." Kids. That means at LEAST 3 people (mom or dad and 2 kids). That's like at least $30 at most theatres, not counting food. In today's hard times, $30 to see a movie, when it's only $22 when it comes out on BRD is stupid.

[zilla103192]

I dont understand how Hop made money and Mars Needs Moms lost over 60%. Ive seen both, Hop is WORLDS worse (but I will still own it on Blu-Ray).

It's not the movie that's hurting theatres, it's the theatres hurting themselves. Do you know how many family film comments Ive seen on Demonoid saying "My kids have been begging to see this." Kids. That means at LEAST 3 people (mom or dad and 2 kids). That's like at least $30 at most theatres, not counting food. In today's hard times, $30 to see a movie, when it's only $22 when it comes out on BRD is stupid.

My local theater is $3 to get in. Thank god. But it takes forever for them to get movies. Like literally 3 weeks before home release.

[wataru]

I have a local theatre, that monday - friday matinees are only $4.50 for brand new movies. So I goto that one. But a hotdog - A HOTDOG - is $4.75. ..LOLWUT?!

I saw X-Men First Class at another theatre - 2 tickets $21 and it had the worse sound, dirty, horrible seating, crowed.

[Hellspawn28]

I have been working at a AMC theatre for almost 2 years and we still get a good amount of people going to the movies during the weekend. Chris is right, Jonah Hex and Mars Needs Moms bomb because they where bad films and no one really care to see them (I never seen anyone who was hype up for neither film), not because people download them legelly. Movies still make a lot of money even people downloading as I mention before. People rather go see them on a big screen then watch them on a PC. For example Mission Impossible 4 has a budget of 145 million and already has gross over 500 million worldwide, it's still doing strong at the box office.

But here's the thing: Legendary Pictures is more than The Dark Knight. They've co-produced 22 features, with five currently in production and sixteen in development. Most of those films lose money for them. And it's not a simple expenses chart where the movies make their budgets back or not..

Are you saying that Legendary Pictures only produced failures outside of Batman? The last time I check, Hangover 2
became the highest-grossing R-rated comedy of all time and made over 170 million on it's first week. Both the Clash of the Titans remake and 10,000 BC also did well at the box office from what I can recall.

[gvamp]

I dont understand how Hop made money and Mars Needs Moms lost over 60%. Ive seen both, Hop is WORLDS worse (but I will still own it on Blu-Ray).

It's not the movie that's hurting theatres, it's the theatres hurting themselves. Do you know how many family film comments Ive seen on Demonoid saying "My kids have been begging to see this." Kids. That means at LEAST 3 people (mom or dad and 2 kids). That's like at least $30 at most theatres, not counting food. In today's hard times, $30 to see a movie, when it's only $22 when it comes out on BRD is stupid.

My local theater is $3 to get in. Thank god. But it takes forever for them to get movies. Like literally 3 weeks before home release.

Those are called second run theathers.

They get movies awhile after they've hit mainstream theaters hence why the ticket prices are low. We used to have one it might be still open but I'm not sure.

BTW both SOPA and PIPA are dead for now.

[Hellspawn28]

SOPA and PIPA both shelved for now.

http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/news ... helved.ars

[Berzerkgodzilla]

Good, I'm happy they are.

[Kaiju-King42]

SOPA and PIPA both shelved for now.

http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/news ... helved.ars

HELL YEAH!


That, sir, made my day.

[TheSecondComing]

I dont understand how Hop made money ... (but I will still own it on Blu-Ray).

Therein lies the rub.

[spinzilla]

Our Reps have failed us once again. The internet will continue to an anarchy. Our white knight has passed.

[Berzerkgodzilla]

Oh stop acting like that. The bill wouldn't have done shit (Other than affect a couple handfull of websites) because people would just have found ways around it, like they always do. The internet is just something that's to goddamn big to control. Even with a shitload of regulation pirating would still be a big problem

[Hellspawn28]

At this rate, I don't see SOPA and PIPA passing. No point on having them both shelved since no one likes them in the first place.

[omgitsgodzilla]

Our Reps have failed us once again. The internet will continue to an anarchy. Our white knight has passed.

Okay, seriously dude. The Internet is pretty much an anarchist community to begin with - it has no overall leaders or police force or government of any kind. And you know what? Pretty much everyone is fine with that. It's how they like it. The Internet gets along fine without a net-wide hierarchy. You're confusing anarchy with chaos, which is a terribly common misconception. Are there chaotic elements online? Yes. There always have been and there probably always will be, and so far it's done little to truly disrupt the balance of things in this global community (unless you got your idea of balance from George Lucas - meaning nothing at all except whatever you consider "good"). It's not the end of the world if a few capitalists who sit back and make money off other people's creations wind up losing a few bucks. You're by all means free to disagree with that description, but the fact remains that these guys have plenty of money and it's not that big a deal if they could be getting more and they aren't. They're rich already and piracy isn't going to destroy the reliability of their income. Your entire apparent view of the Internet is frankly rather alarmist and I don't think you see the big picture: The Internet is the closest thing to an anarchistic utopia we've ever had. There is no entity capable of saying what you can and can't do on a net-wide scale. The web has brought us unprecedented freedom in nearly every area you can imagine. Power has been given to the people and they are using it as they see fit by trading information and art freely. I'm not going to argue that it isn't a crime to pirate copyrighted material, but in the end I'm not all that sure it matters as much as the corporations that produce said material would have you believe.

I don't want to cause trouble, but that's my two cents. If you want to debate any of this, I don't want to fill the thread with it, but I'd be more than happy to discuss it civilly and through private messages. Thank you.

[Hellspawn28]

^You know Spinzilla is just trolling with us in this thread, no point on debating with him. Their is over 13 million people protesting Sopa and Pipa, it will never pass!

[SuperSaiyan4Godzilla]

^You know Spinzilla is just trolling with us in this thread, no point on debating with him. Their is over 13 million people protesting Sopa and Pipa, it will never pass!

:: coughNDAAcough ::

Either way, I await the return of these two bills.

[spinzilla]

^You know Spinzilla is just trolling with us in this thread, no point on debating with him. Their is over 13 million people protesting Sopa and Pipa, it will never pass!

You think 13 million protesting is a definite no pass? It's not, especially with the protesters being a mostly faceless anonymous group. How can you be taken seriously with NO FACE? No face as in "Chimp-ripped-it-off-no-face".

It's like the island of misfit toys protesting.

[Hellspawn28]

Too bad since Smith is pulling the bill and SOPA is essentially dead.

http://mashable.com/2012/01/20/sopa-is- ... ulls-bill/

[spinzilla]

Too bad since Smith is pulling the bill and SOPA is essentially dead.

http://venturebeat.com/2012/01/20/lamar ... sopa-dead/

Oh, I know. See my earlier post about the white knight passing. I was talking about the fact that even if you have protesters it's not in the bag that a bill won't get passed.

Jump in and follow the stream of this conversation.

swimy.

[Living Corpse]

Too bad since Smith is pulling the bill and SOPA is essentially dead.

http://mashable.com/2012/01/20/sopa-is- ... ulls-bill/

HS.

No offense but this has always been going on and will never end, and I'm not just talking about these bills.

There's been and still are many bills that certain parties have been and still are and forever will keep trying to get passed until they do and if they don't they still keep trying to get them passed. Every year.