Gorosaurus's bio on the main site, split or not?

[Arbok]

A separate bio? I can go either way. Varan and Baragon got separate ones and technically those weren't needed either, though the suits and props had been modified while Goro had not.

Varan and Baragon got different bios because they are at different sizes in those movies. According to Toho, the Gorosaurus in DAM is the same size as the one in King Kong Escapes... so that's why they have the same bio.

Rodan would have gotten a split bio as well on the site, due to his wingspan... except that it actually grows in-between Ghidorah, the Three-Headed Monster and Invasion of Astro-Monster. So there was no real good place to split it.

[alienhulk2099]

According to Toho, the Gorosaurus in DAM is the same size as the one in King Kong Escapes... so that's why they have the same bio.

This is kind of the reason I thought people might want a bio split, in DAM Goro's at least 40 meters tall when you compare him to Godzilla.

Rodan would have gotten a split bio as well on the site, due to his wingspan... except that it actually grows in-between Ghidorah, the Three-Headed Monster and Invasion of Astro-Monster. So there was no real good place to split it.

I take it that is less consistent than the third generation showa Mothra larva? (which makes me wonder why is there a split between them? Did Toho really state a 13 meter/2,000 ton difference between the two?) I also take it we can't just use the official wingspan.

[Primevalgodzilla V2]

Firstly, its not really important save for FM discussions. Secondly, TK only puts up official stats. Toho hasn't seen the need to make a differencer between KKE and DAM Goro, so I don't see why should we.

[KaneLocke]

According to Toho, the Gorosaurus in DAM is the same size as the one in King Kong Escapes... so that's why they have the same bio.

This is kind of the reason I thought people might want a bio split, in DAM Goro's at least 40 meters tall when you compare him to Godzilla.

Wait, wait... are YOU the one always bringing this stuff up in FMs? And wasn't it addressed there numerous times as well?

If OFFICIAL TOHO MATERIAL states that he is 35 meters tall, regardless of how it appears on film, then he's 35 meters tall. In the case of films, perception is not reality.

[wataru]

According to Toho, the Gorosaurus in DAM is the same size as the one in King Kong Escapes... so that's why they have the same bio.

This is kind of the reason I thought people might want a bio split, in DAM Goro's at least 40 meters tall when you compare him to Godzilla.

Wait, wait... are YOU the one always bringing this stuff up in FMs? And wasn't it addressed there numerous times as well?

If OFFICIAL TOHO MATERIAL states that he is 35 meters tall, regardless of how it appears on film, then he's 35 meters tall. In the case of films, perception is not reality.

Would this also apply to Gwangi? Because Gwangi's level of fanboy epicness is based on the perception of it's skills on screen.

[alienhulk2099]

Wait, wait... are YOU the one always bringing this stuff up in FMs? And wasn't it addressed there numerous times as well?

Actually I got most of this info from Inferno Rodan.

[Legion1979]

Rodan would have gotten a split bio as well on the site, due to his wingspan... except that it actually grows in-between Ghidorah, the Three-Headed Monster and Invasion of Astro-Monster. So there was no real good place to split it.

I'm not following this. It's always been said that the Rodan seen in 1964-1968 one of the same ones from the 1956 Rodan movies. So even with a slight wingspan increase how would that justify two different bios??

[Inferno Rodan]

If OFFICIAL TOHO MATERIAL states that he is 35 meters tall, regardless of how it appears on film, then he's 35 meters tall. In the case of films, perception is not reality.

If what they state so blatantly goes against what's shown on screen, then I'll trust my eyes over a bunch of stuffy Japanese businessmen that don't give a shit in the first place, thanks.

For that matter, KKE Goro is obviously not 35 meters tall either. KKE Kong is 20 meters, and Gorosaurus is maybe a hair taller than him. He's certainly not nearly twice as tall as Kong. So I have no clue where the hell they came up with that number.

[JVM]

Guys, it's Word of God. Even if it's completely wrong we have to run with it. Toho's being stupid, but it's Toho.

I'm not following this. It's always been said that the Rodan seen in 1964-1968 one of the same ones from the 1956 Rodan movies. So even with a slight wingspan increase how would that justify two different bios??

Wingspan increase is all it is. I doubt Toho actually says Varan and Baragon '99 are separate monsters, just different sizes.

[KaneLocke]

If OFFICIAL TOHO MATERIAL states that he is 35 meters tall, regardless of how it appears on film, then he's 35 meters tall. In the case of films, perception is not reality.

If what they state so blatantly goes against what's shown on screen, then I'll trust my eyes over a bunch of stuffy Japanese businessmen that don't give a shit in the first place, thanks.

For that matter, KKE Goro is obviously not 35 meters tall either. KKE Kong is 20 meters, and Gorosaurus is maybe a hair taller than him. He's certainly not nearly twice as tall as Kong. So I have no clue where the hell they came up with that number.

It's a movie. They can pull it outta their asses if they want. The stats are only truly relevant in FMs, and if that's a problem, just state in the rules the height and weight which the kaiju in question are scaled to.

[wataru]

If KKE isnt canon and KEE Goro is the same species as Goji-canon Goro - then no, a new bio isnt needed, nor a split bio.

Baragon and Varan got their own because their own movies they appeared to die.

[W2daERN]

Guys, it's Word of God. Even if it's completely wrong we have to run with it. Toho's being stupid, but it's Toho.

If Toho told you to jump off a bridge, would you do it?

But seriously, I think we can trust what is so blatantly shown on screen as is. In this case, movie > other sources.

As for the bio, if it can be proven that the two movies are not canon, there should be two generations, and the 2nd should start with something like: "In the Godzilla series, Gorosaurus is instead portrayed as a 35-meter tall kaiju that resides on Monster Island."

[KaneLocke]

Guys, it's Word of God. Even if it's completely wrong we have to run with it. Toho's being stupid, but it's Toho.

If Toho told you to jump off a bridge, would you do it?

Sure, if I were starring in their film.

That's what we're talking about, folks. A movie. You're all wrapped up in what makes sense. Not to mention, TK strives to be an accurate source of official Toho information. If Anthony starts printing information based on what is just fan speculation or fans' opinions or stats, it takes away from the legitimacy of the site. If anything, I could see a note attached to the bio stating the size inconsistency, but not an entirely separate bio.

[Monster Master]

Maybe if we did a special article on the website about inconsistencies between the actual bios and what's in said movie.

[TokyoVigilante]

^
That is a superb idea. I wholeheartedly second this.

[alienhulk2099]

I third that idea myself.

[Godzilla 1995]

I fourth the idea. Not only would it be a good read, but also an informative and accurate article of some inconsistencies that newer fans may come across.

[Monster Master]

I totally volunteer to write said article and declare my dominancy on the TK legacy!

[Godzilla 1995]

I totally volunteer to write said article and declare my dominancy on the TK legacy!

$5 Ocean comes in and demands he write it instead of you. After all, he's a true fan and you're not.

[Monster Master]

I totally volunteer to write said article and declare my dominancy on the TK legacy!

$5 Ocean comes in and demands he write it instead of you. After all, he's a true fan and you're not.

Don't give 'em ideas.
Seriously though, let's leave all of that "who's a fan!" stuff to that other topic.