Godzilla X The Kaiju Killer thread

[omgitsgodzilla]

Taking the difficulties involved into account is important, but I think the criticism over the "Inter-Pole" thing is pretty justified. The only difficulties would have been hearing Interpol existed, or reading GvsMG's subtitles correctly.

[TokyoVigilante]

I don't think she was saying that.

Why not give her a chance to answer one question (however rhetorical), before piling on more, based on some very negative assumptions?

Pardon my long winded way of asking her to clarify, because I didn't really know what was she getting at. Vague mottos are funny like that.

FWIW, even if her husband has a hard time taking criticism (as posters who saw his YouTube response are claiming), I do agree that criticism from people who have themselves struggled to create something comparably challenging is often more valuable than criticism from people who haven't.

Valuable in that they can provide more specific advice, yes. But an informed person (like a film student, IE myself) will more then likely give the same basic criticism on the films technical aspects as someone who has produced a lot of material in comparison (like, say DaiKamonohashi or Chris55). General stuff like continuity, cutting on action, 180 degree rule, etc.

The latter has its value, too... especially when it's respectful and does take the challenges involved, into account. But all too often, it isn't respectful... it's just exaggeratedly negative and mean-spirited.

There's very little motivation to provide legitimate advice when the creator has a reputation for not giving a shit and being just as mean-spirited towards people who do provide that good criticism. A person takes the time to watch your creation, takes the time to formulate some advice for you to improve and the artist tells you you aren't good enough to help him. What the hell, man? Why would I bother trying to help someone who doesn't feel he needs it?

If DaiKamonohashi for example made some sort of ambitious production, I would gladly write essays for that dude because I know he's an upstanding guy who would be both appreciative and consider what I had to say, regardless of whether or not he thought I had any business telling him how to be better.

Basically, reputation counts.

[Chris55]

I don't think she was saying that.

Why not give her a chance to answer one question (however rhetorical), before piling on more, based on some very negative assumptions?

Pardon my long winded way of asking her to clarify, because I didn't really know what was she getting at. Vague mottos are funny like that.

FWIW, even if her husband has a hard time taking criticism (as posters who saw his YouTube response are claiming), I do agree that criticism from people who have themselves struggled to create something comparably challenging is often more valuable than criticism from people who haven't.

Valuable in that they can provide more specific advice, yes. But an informed person (like a film student, IE myself) will more then likely give the same basic criticism on the films technical aspects as someone who has produced a lot of material in comparison (like, say DaiKamonohashi or Chris55). General stuff like continuity, cutting on action, 180 degree rule, etc.

I don't know if I can be compared with Huntie. I had a full crew/makeup artist/assistants etc. He just had himself and one person holding a video camera.

[DaiKamonohashi]

We have four primary crew members including myself, which can sometimes be extended to ten or twelve on a shoot but that's mostly grunt work - only a couple of us actually know what we're doing. XD

That said, I've seen far better material created by one person without even another person on the camera.

[Chris55]

We have four primary crew members including myself, which can sometimes be extended to ten or twelve on a shoot but that's mostly grunt work - only a couple of us actually know what we're doing. XD

That said, I've seen far better material created by one person without even another person on the camera.

Link me to some of your work

[DaiKamonohashi]

http://vimeo.com/lobsterdance/videos

[Chris55]

http://vimeo.com/lobsterdance/videos

You got some good shit

SMALL snippet from my movie. Things to note:

-NO ADR in this clip. This is just production dialog.

-Music (official not placeholder) not mixed

http://vimeo.com/20222833

password:7777


If the guy in the green shirt looks familiar, you may have seen him in this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kDQ8DNsvtmE

[DaiKamonohashi]

Well obviously I have no idea what's going on but it does look pretty, I'll give you that.

[Chris55]

Well obviously I have no idea what's going on but it does look pretty, I'll give you that.

Oh yeah, I did that clip for some company a while back. I didn't want to give anything away so I just picked up the end of the conversation.

[DoctorMafune]

But an informed person (like a film student, IE myself) will more then likely give the same basic criticism on the films technical aspects as someone who has produced a lot of material in comparison (like, say DaiKamonohashi or Chris55). General stuff like continuity, cutting on action, 180 degree rule, etc

There's very little motivation to provide legitimate advice when the creator has a reputation for not giving a shit and being just as mean-spirited towards people who do provide that good criticism. A person takes the time to watch your creation, takes the time to formulate some advice for you to improve and the artist tells you you aren't good enough to help him. What the hell, man? Why would I bother trying to help someone who doesn't feel he needs it?

It does sound like you would have a lot to offer.

As you say, though, not much point in trying if the creator isn't willing to listen.

Maybe if some of the people who don't have the training that you do, will shift more to, "I liked it / didn't like it, and here's why, as far as I can tell," instead of the way they often phrase their disapproval, fewer creators will have their "deflectors" up... hard to say.

[DaiKamonohashi]

The best criticism often comes from a group consensus. If a large number of people are pointing out the same flaw in your work (or something related to it), you can be pretty certain that it's a major one no matter what education on your medium each individual critic may or may not have had. There are a handful of issues with Kaiju Killer that everyone almost unanimously agrees on - broken script, murky voice acting, etc. - yet Huntie still lashed out and insisted that everyone was wrong and that we "just don't understand."

To hell with "deflectors." If you create, you're going to take heat from critics. I know I have. It stings, yeah, but that's no need to act like a spoiled four-year-old in retaliation.

[Chris55]

^If we're both at G-Fest next year, we gotta do a small short film. Have Matt Frank running around hitting people with pies or something. You know, a film with some SUBSTANCE!

[DaiKamonohashi]

Doesn't matter what it is - if Matt's in it, people will go bananas. After the trailer for MechaSorta showed at the Pickwick this past year, he got mobbed by fans applauding his performance in said trailer. I was standing right next to him the entire time and none of them even noticed I was there. XD

[Darth Calypso]

I totally forgot to post this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zyTZZpei ... 6rKcQ9GDY=
The Biollante puppet looks pretty nice and the eyes of his improved Godzilla remind me of the 1992 Godzilla suit.

[Godzilla1703]

A great fanfilm but the villains bothered me...

Like the Kaiju Killer's Kaiju form was epic, but when he was released and looked like a worm...no...

And the puppet used for some his head motions...looked...just...eww...

[xianbeauty]

A great fanfilm but the villains bothered me...

Like the Kaiju Killer's Kaiju form was epic, but when he was released and looked like a worm...no...

And the puppet used for some his head motions...looked...just...eww...

http://blip.tv/channel-schlock/black-ho ... 01-5694711

http://blip.tv/channel-schlock/black-ho ... -2-6007144

Glad you enjoyed it, check out his prequal series it's great. Part 3 will be out by late may I think.

[DaiKamonohashi]

Great? Honestly, he seems to have regressed as a filmmaker. Part 2 has its moments (the puppet is pretty decently executed most of the time) but part 1 is hilariously painful to sit through.

[xianbeauty]

Seriously, your dislike for my husband is bordering on obsessive. Get over the butthurt already, his regreted tirade he made to Mattfrank on youtube was over 3 YEARS AGO.

SHEESH.

[DaiKamonohashi]

What does this have to do with Matt? XD

[xianbeauty]

Sorry, just assumed you were defending his honor again.

But it is kinda sad that you need to troll this thread just beacuse myself and others think my husbands work is great. We've heard your opinon, many (MANY) times, that's all.