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Postby hewylewis » Thu Sep 29, 2016 8:12 am

omgitsgodzilla wrote:I think I remember either trying to start or getting involved with such a project years ago; this is a different project. I'd forgotten all about that.


Yeah, you cast me as the reporter character, you even had the opening credits sequence made.

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Postby G-MAN » Sat Oct 15, 2016 7:32 pm

Any updates?

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Postby omgitsgodzilla » Sat Oct 15, 2016 9:58 pm

I've ripped the Kraken Blu-ray, imported it to the project file and done some basic color correction on it - it's more or less just a white balance adjustment like what armoredsaint58 did (only a little less blue), plus brightness and contrast adjustment. Nothing complex, but it looks pretty good. I'll be getting down to the actual editing soon.
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Postby G-MAN » Sun Oct 16, 2016 6:06 pm

Sounds awesome and promising. Can't wait to finally check this out. Any possible release date yet? And how big of a file size you aiming for the 1080p version? As like I said before that I'd love to see a bluray quality version since the kraken is 50gb disc I believe as I don't think they compressed toho's disc and I'd love to have a somewhat definitive fan release as it seems no one will be releasing this officially with a restored or remastered print anytime soon.

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Postby Great Hierophant » Sun Oct 16, 2016 6:37 pm

The main feature on Kraken's disc weighs in at 30GB. Prior Kraken releases weren't even pushing 20GB. Whatever faults may lie with this disc, and there are several, at least Kraken didn't skimp on the bitrate.

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Postby armoredsaint58 » Sun Oct 16, 2016 8:12 pm

Great Hierophant wrote:The main feature on Kraken's disc weighs in at 30GB. Prior Kraken releases weren't even pushing 20GB. Whatever faults may lie with this disc, and there are several, at least Kraken didn't skimp on the bitrate.


Also having both audio tracks being dts hd master audio, both taking up 2gb of the actual file, so 4gb of the movie file in total is just audio.

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Postby omgitsgodzilla » Sun Oct 16, 2016 11:30 pm

The video stream by itself, ripped using MakeMKV and then extracted as a containerless H264 file, is 21.6GB. Checking the properties of the m2ts file I muxed it into for editing, it looks like the bitrate - and this is just the video alone, no audio - is over 30mbps. I don't know if I'll be rendering it at quite that high a bitrate, but I promise it won't be any lower than the roughly 20mbps bitrate on my DAM edit.

As for the release date, I'm going to try and get this out at the latest sometime in December. I was able to do the 720p version pretty quickly because I had nothing really going on, but I've got a lot going on with school at the moment, so I can't promise I'll be too efficient until break.
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Postby G-MAN » Sun Oct 16, 2016 11:35 pm

Woe sounds awesome I hope it does stay over 30mbs. And just curious since I use tsmuxer to make some blurays, is the audio codec going to be ac3?

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Postby omgitsgodzilla » Mon Oct 17, 2016 12:01 am

Most likely. What I might end up doing is rendering a smaller, more manageable MP4 file for people who just want to watch it on their computers or other devices, and a higher-quality MKV file with Blu-ray compatible codecs and chapter breaks for people who want to burn it to a disc.

I'm thinking of doing a similar MKV file for the Destroy All Monsters edit, which will also have the advantage of negating any potential aspect ratio issues. So far I've been making and rendering these projects in the aspect ratios of the movies themselves; for instance, instead of 1920x1080, the project file for Godzilla 1985 uses 1920x1038 (1.85:1) and the one for DAM is 1920x818 (2.35:1). The Blu-ray quality files would actually be 1920x1080 with black bars at the top and bottom of the frame, as is standard for the format.
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Postby omgitsgodzilla » Mon Oct 24, 2016 10:15 am

Update

I’ve begun working on the 1080p version of Godzilla 1985. I’ve ripped the uncompressed video track from the Kraken Blu-ray of The Return of Godzilla and added it to the project file, where I’ve boosted the contrast and performed a bit of white balance adjustment to alleviate the mediocre black levels and slight green tint of the Toho transfer. From here, I’ll be approaching the rest of the reconstruction in a slightly more organized fashion than I did for the 720p version, making a few separate passes over the project:

  • The first pass will consist of synchronizing the 1080p video with the existing 720p version. I’ve already begun this step; it’s a lot easier having already done it once, and I’ve gotten through the scene of Maki and Okumura being rescued from the fishing boat, which probably took me less than an hour. (I may also replace the stock footage from Godzilla, King of the Monsters! using the Criterion transfer.)
  • The second pass will consist of re-working the “patches” from the Monsters HD transfer that I used to cover various titles, captions and location supers in the Japanese version. This will mean re-aligning some of them and adjusting the colors somewhat, since unlike the 720p version I’ve actually done a spot of color correction on the Japanese source.
  • The third pass will be completely re-doing the subtitles on the Russian dialogue. I’ll be using a rip of the Australian VHS that contains the original theatrical subtitles as a source and as a reference for the position and timing. (I’ll also be using similar means to more accurately recreate the “100 MILES SOUTH OF TOKYO” location super.)
  • The final step will be applying film grain to the entire project, which will hopefully lend some consistency to the visuals as the video switches between SD and HD sources. This won’t be a cheap, default video effect; I’ll be using the same stock 35mm grain plate I used on my Destroy All Monsters project.
After that, I’ll probably be making two separate renders of the finished project. One will be an MP4 file in the original aspect ratio that’s encoded at a somewhat lower bitrate to keep the file size down (basically designed for convenience), while the other will be an MKV file encoded at a similar bitrate to the original Blu-ray source, using the appropriate codecs and dimensions for Blu-ray burning (I’ll probably include chapter stops as well if I can figure out how to add them).

I’ll keep you guys posted on my progress!
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Postby GodzillaFanatic2001 » Mon Oct 24, 2016 11:55 am

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Postby omgitsgodzilla » Tue Nov 01, 2016 6:39 pm

Well, here's a brief look at what I've been up to so far:



Here's the scene where Steve Martin arrives at the Pentagon, with the KotM stock footage sourced from the Criterion transfer.
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Postby GFAN198423 » Tue Nov 01, 2016 6:46 pm

Very nicely done, your passion and devotion for this project really show.

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Postby goji1986 » Wed Nov 02, 2016 9:56 am

omgitsgodzilla wrote:Well, here's a brief look at what I've been up to so far:



Here's the scene where Steve Martin arrives at the Pentagon, with the KotM stock footage sourced from the Criterion transfer.


Very nice! Have you considered replacing the stock footage on the screens with the Criterion source?
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Postby omgitsgodzilla » Wed Nov 02, 2016 10:04 am

I've thought about it, but there are a few reasons I don't think I'll be doing it.

One, that would constitute altering optical compositing work in the original film, which generally isn't considered kosher for projects like this (I think Harmy's gone to some lengths to preserve the original compositing work in Star Wars, for instance).

Two, that would be kind of complicated and necessitate cluttering the project with even more video tracks.

Three, it seems like it would be kind of distracting having extremely sharp images in the middle of a rather soft-looking shot from a lower-resolution source.
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Postby GFAN198423 » Wed Nov 02, 2016 10:34 am

I think it's fine, the composite screen time is brief, the update cleans up the key segments.

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Postby G-MAN » Thu Nov 03, 2016 11:03 pm

I notice in the test footage of it the 1985 footage has a lot of pixelation going on. Is it because you compressed it for YouTube or something else?

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Postby Bigdog » Fri Nov 04, 2016 1:53 am

G-MAN wrote:I notice in the test footage of it the 1985 footage has a lot of pixelation going on. Is it because you compressed it for YouTube or something else?


I go with the YouTube compression process.

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Postby omgitsgodzilla » Fri Nov 04, 2016 11:16 am

Probably YouTube compression combined with a lower resolution/lower bitrate source for the 1985 footage. The KotM footage doesn't exactly look its best on YouTube either
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Postby G-MAN » Fri Nov 04, 2016 8:24 pm

omgitsgodzilla wrote:Probably YouTube compression combined with a lower resolution/lower bitrate source for the 1985 footage. The KotM footage doesn't exactly look its best on YouTube either


OK so it was just a low bitrate then. Sweet just got a little worried when I tried watching it on 1080 on my TV and seeing some bad pixelation.


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