Godzilla vs KK vs Gamera vs KG vs Mothra

[L Lawliet]

http://www.tohokingdom.com/kaiju/godzilla_heisei.htm#84

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http://www.tohokingdom.com/kaiju/king_kong.htm

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http://www.tohokingdom.com/kaiju/gamera.htm

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http://www.tohokingdom.com/kaiju/king_g ... _showa.htm

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http://www.tohokingdom.com/kaiju/mothra_mill3.htm

Rules: A kaiju needs to kill all other kaiju to win, King Ghidorah will receive aid from the Xians, Nuclear Pulse banned, Mana Beam banned

Arena: Planet X

[Kaiju-King42]

Mothra dies in the first ten seconds, King Kong doesn't last for two long, No idea who wins between Godzilla and Gamera, winner fights King Ghidorah, but KG will have help from the Xiiens, AND this is the real King Ghidorah. So KG wins.

[Gyaos]

^ The "Real" King Ghidorah? How does that make him more likely to win?

[Kiryu2012]

Mothra dies in the first ten seconds, King Kong doesn't last for two long, No idea who wins between Godzilla and Gamera, winner fights King Ghidorah, but KG will have help from the Xiiens, AND this is the real King Ghidorah. So KG wins.

How does being the real King Ghidorah going to help KG in this fight. Kong and Mothra will be taken out quite easily, though Mothra will last longer, and King Ghidorah WILL be defeated here. He's actually not that impressive. Godzilla and Gamera will duke it out before Godzilla eventually brings Gammy down.

[PopInPicsPresents]

AND this is the real King Ghidorah. So KG wins.

Funny that you say that because Showa Ghidorah is a shit fighter compared to the Heisei Ghidorah Heisei beam spam is gonna wreck Kong, Ghidorah and Mothra. Gamera would be the only real challenge to Godzilla, in a battle between the two I'm going with Godzilla though.

[Kaiju-King42]

^ The "Real" King Ghidorah? How does that make him more likely to win?

I dunno. I just like to make fun of Heisei Ghidorah. A lot.

@Popinpics: You do know that both KG's use the same fighting style. Neither is a better or worse fighter, unless you count Ghidorah in GvG. He was a shit fighter then, I'll admit, but not before that.

[Gyaos]

Actually, Showa Ghidorah never put anything up front in the T&C department, whereas Heisei KG was knocking Godzilla around quite a bit and his necks alone where able to physically overpower and immobilize him. This is Heisei Godzilla we're talking about btw, physically one of the strongest.

[PopInPicsPresents]

@Popinpics: You do know that both KG's use the same fighting style. Neither is a better or worse fighter, unless you count Ghidorah in GvG. He was a shit fighter then, I'll admit, but not before that.

But they don't, Showa Ghidorah mainly stays on the ground in one spot until he gets beat up on, then flies up and lands in another spot and repeats the pattern. Heisei Ghidorah mainly stays in the air and spams his Gravity Beams, up close he's more formidable then Showa Ghidorah too.

[GodzillaXGomoraFight]

I'm agreeing with these points being made against Showa Ghidorah. He tends to spam a lot and just stand around. After just rewatching the GTTHM battle, all I saw Ghidorah do was shrug Godzilla off a few times in terms of close combat. Against monsters like Godzilla, Gamera, and King Kong, Ghidorah is not going to do very well. No one had mentioned King Kong being strengthened by electricity, so Ghidorah's gravity bolts would only be helping him out. If Showa Ghidorah had the close combat skills of Heisei King Ghidorah, then I would see this match going differently. Mothra is somewhat of a non-factor in this and Ghidorah is not going to do so hot either. Between Kong, Godzilla, and Gamera, it will go down between the turtle and the radioactive dino in the end unless Kong becomes a super-monster after getting hit by gravity bolts or lightning a whole bunch of times.

[PopInPicsPresents]

I'm agreeing with these points being made against Showa Ghidorah. He tends to spam a lot and just stand around. After just rewatching the GTTHM battle, all I saw Ghidorah do was shrug Godzilla off a few times in terms of close combat. Against monsters like Godzilla, Gamera, and King Kong, Ghidorah is not going to do very well. No one had mentioned King Kong being strengthened by electricity, so Ghidorah's gravity bolts would only be helping him out. If Showa Ghidorah had the close combat skills of Heisei King Ghidorah, then I would see this match going differently. Mothra is somewhat of a non-factor in this and Ghidorah is not going to do so hot either. Between Kong, Godzilla, and Gamera, it will go down between the turtle and the radioactive dino in the end unless Kong becomes a super-monster after getting hit by gravity bolts or lightning a whole bunch of times.

The Gravity Bolts aren't going to super charge Kong because they're not electric bases. And even if Ghidorah had Heisei's T&C I don't think it would effect the outcome of the match. Kong will go down if Godzilla decides to beam spam him, along with every other combatant. Gamera will put up a fight but I don't think he has what it takes to put down Godzilla.

[Kaiju-King42]

Actually, Showa Ghidorah never put anything up front in the T&C department, whereas Heisei KG was knocking Godzilla around quite a bit and his necks alone where able to physically overpower and immobilize him. This is Heisei Godzilla we're talking about btw, physically one of the strongest.

And in GTTHM, Ghidorah knocked Godzilla over with his necks in their first encounter, before he got distracted by Rodan. Even after that Ghidorah was still knocking Godzilla on his ass even as Mothra was pulling him back by the tail. All Heisei Ghidorah did for T&C was fly into Godzilla, stomp on him, and try choking him with his necks. Most of his combat style revolved around spamming gravity bolts. Just like Show Ghidorah.

And Showa Godzilla is pretty strong too. He could lift monsters four times his weight over his head! That's just as good as what Heisei Godzilla did to Mechagodzilla, and he's also less physical combat able than showa.

[Gyaos]

Actually, Showa Ghidorah never put anything up front in the T&C department, whereas Heisei KG was knocking Godzilla around quite a bit and his necks alone where able to physically overpower and immobilize him. This is Heisei Godzilla we're talking about btw, physically one of the strongest.

And in GTTHM, Ghidorah knocked Godzilla over with his necks in their first encounter, before he got distracted by Rodan. Even after that Ghidorah was still knocking Godzilla on his ass even as Mothra was pulling him back by the tail. All Heisei Ghidorah did for T&C was fly into Godzilla, stomp on him, and try choking him with his necks. Most of his combat style revolved around spamming gravity bolts. Just like Show Ghidorah.

Honestly the only reason Godzila was falling on his ass was because Ghidorah pushed (what it looked like anyway) or shot gravity bolts at him which made him fall. Heisei Ghidorah, like you said, Flew into, stomped on, and constricted Godzilla; all of which is still more than Showa Ghidorah did. Pound for pound, Heisei Ghidorah is the superior fighter.


Im not denying that Showa Godzilla is ridiculously strong btw.

[Kaiju-King42]

Actually, Showa Ghidorah never put anything up front in the T&C department, whereas Heisei KG was knocking Godzilla around quite a bit and his necks alone where able to physically overpower and immobilize him. This is Heisei Godzilla we're talking about btw, physically one of the strongest.

And in GTTHM, Ghidorah knocked Godzilla over with his necks in their first encounter, before he got distracted by Rodan. Even after that Ghidorah was still knocking Godzilla on his ass even as Mothra was pulling him back by the tail. All Heisei Ghidorah did for T&C was fly into Godzilla, stomp on him, and try choking him with his necks. Most of his combat style revolved around spamming gravity bolts. Just like Show Ghidorah.

Honestly the only reason Godzila was falling on his ass was because Ghidorah pushed (what it looked like anyway) or shot gravity bolts at him which made him fall. Heisei Ghidorah, like you said, Flew into, stomped on, and constricted Godzilla; all of which is still more than Showa Ghidorah did. Pound for pound, Heisei Ghidorah is the superior fighter.


Im not denying that Showa Godzilla is ridiculously strong btw.

We could debate this point for a while. I'll leave you to your opinion, but don't forget that, unlike Heisie Ghidorah, Showa Ghidorah was capable of taking on three monsters at once. And he seemed to be doing a pretty good job at it until Mothra got his heads with silk. In the next movie, Ghidorah again seems to be doing a pretty good job in the final battle, but is driven away because of a ram that would put the hurt on most monsters. That was a long fall. Not to mention that neither Rodan or Godzilla surfaced, so Ghidorah pretty much tied with them there. And in DAM, well... it was one guy against ten. What would you expect to gonna happen? And even THEN, it took strategy on Godzilla and Gorosaurus's part to defeat him.

Heisei Ghidorah lost against one guy. And then tied against that one guy. I'm not using this as a reason as to why Showa is a better fighter, I'm just giving my view on it. I believe that the better fighter would be the one who can take on multiple enemies and actually do a good job.

[PopInPicsPresents]

We could debate this point for a while. I'll leave you to your opinion, but don't forget that, unlike Heisie Ghidorah, Showa Ghidorah was capable of taking on three monsters at once. And he seemed to be doing a pretty good job at it until Mothra got his heads with silk. In the next movie, Ghidorah again seems to be doing a pretty good job in the final battle, but is driven away because of a ram that would put the hurt on most monsters. That was a long fall. Not to mention that neither Rodan or Godzilla surfaced, so Ghidorah pretty much tied with them there. And in DAM, well... it was one guy against ten. What would you expect to gonna happen? And even THEN, it took strategy on Godzilla and Gorosaurus's part to defeat him.

Why wasn't Showa Ghidorah defeated until 1999? Because it constantly fled from battle. The later Showa Godzilla could have defiantly killed King Ghidorah if it stayed in battle.

Heisei Ghidorah lost against one guy. And then tied against that one guy. I'm not using this as a reason as to why Showa is a better fighter, I'm just giving my view on it. I believe that the better fighter would be the one who can take on multiple enemies and actually do a good job.

Said "one guy" happens to be Heisei Godzilla. Heisei Godzilla could most likely dominate the Monster Island Gang who did battle with Ghidorah (not counting Showa Godzilla). Heisei Ghidorah if pitted in the same situation Showa Ghidorah was in most likely would have come out on top. Why? Because Showa Ghidorah is a terrible fighter who likes to stand in one spot for awhile until he starts getting beat up and then retreats. Heisei Ghidorah is smart enough to stay in the air, spam his beam and ram his opponents down to the ground. Not to mention if Heisei Ghidorah had gotten Showa Godzilla in the choke hold it had Heisei Godzilla in, Showa Godzilla would be history. And Ghidorah only got attacked by Godzilla, Anguirus and Gorosaurus. Kumunga and Mothra didn't do anything, neither did Rodan.

[Kiryu2012]

We could debate this point for a while. I'll leave you to your opinion, but don't forget that, unlike Heisie Ghidorah, Showa Ghidorah was capable of taking on three monsters at once. And he seemed to be doing a pretty good job at it until Mothra got his heads with silk. In the next movie, Ghidorah again seems to be doing a pretty good job in the final battle, but is driven away because of a ram that would put the hurt on most monsters. That was a long fall. Not to mention that neither Rodan or Godzilla surfaced, so Ghidorah pretty much tied with them there. And in DAM, well... it was one guy against ten. What would you expect to gonna happen? And even THEN, it took strategy on Godzilla and Gorosaurus's part to defeat him.

Why wasn't Showa Ghidorah defeated until 1999? Because it constantly fled from battle. The later Showa Godzilla could have defiantly killed King Ghidorah if it stayed in battle.

Heisei Ghidorah lost against one guy. And then tied against that one guy. I'm not using this as a reason as to why Showa is a better fighter, I'm just giving my view on it. I believe that the better fighter would be the one who can take on multiple enemies and actually do a good job.

Said "one guy" happens to be Heisei Godzilla. Heisei Godzilla could most likely dominate the Monster Island Gang who did battle with Ghidorah (not counting Showa Godzilla). Heisei Ghidorah if pitted in the same situation Showa Ghidorah was in most likely would have come out on top. Why? Because Showa Ghidorah is a terrible fighter who likes to stand in one spot for awhile until he starts getting beat up and then retreats. Heisei Ghidorah is smart enough to stay in the air, spam his beam and ram his opponents down to the ground. Not to mention if Heisei Ghidorah had gotten Showa Godzilla in the choke hold it had Heisei Godzilla in, Showa Godzilla would be history. And Ghidorah only got attacked by Godzilla, Anguirus and Gorosaurus. Kumunga and Mothra didn't do anything, neither did Rodan.

Pretty much. I really don't see Showa KG doing much here.

[Gyaos]

We could debate this point for a while. I'll leave you to your opinion, but don't forget that, unlike Heisie Ghidorah, Showa Ghidorah was capable of taking on three monsters at once. And he seemed to be doing a pretty good job at it until Mothra got his heads with silk. In the next movie, Ghidorah again seems to be doing a pretty good job in the final battle, but is driven away because of a ram that would put the hurt on most monsters. That was a long fall. Not to mention that neither Rodan or Godzilla surfaced, so Ghidorah pretty much tied with them there. And in DAM, well... it was one guy against ten. What would you expect to gonna happen? And even THEN, it took strategy on Godzilla and Gorosaurus's part to defeat him.

Why wasn't Showa Ghidorah defeated until 1999? Because it constantly fled from battle. The later Showa Godzilla could have defiantly killed King Ghidorah if it stayed in battle.

Heisei Ghidorah lost against one guy. And then tied against that one guy. I'm not using this as a reason as to why Showa is a better fighter, I'm just giving my view on it. I believe that the better fighter would be the one who can take on multiple enemies and actually do a good job.

Said "one guy" happens to be Heisei Godzilla. Heisei Godzilla could most likely dominate the Monster Island Gang who did battle with Ghidorah (not counting Showa Godzilla). Heisei Ghidorah if pitted in the same situation Showa Ghidorah was in most likely would have come out on top. Why? Because Showa Ghidorah is a terrible fighter who likes to stand in one spot for awhile until he starts getting beat up and then retreats. Heisei Ghidorah is smart enough to stay in the air, spam his beam and ram his opponents down to the ground. Not to mention if Heisei Ghidorah had gotten Showa Godzilla in the choke hold it had Heisei Godzilla in, Showa Godzilla would be history. And Ghidorah only got attacked by Godzilla, Anguirus and Gorosaurus. Kumunga and Mothra didn't do anything, neither did Rodan.

That and he'd also have a ridiculous advantage in size/weight if he was in Showa Ghidorah's position. If Ghidorah tried that mid-air flying kick or stomp on Godzilla or Gorosaurus that's 70,000 tons of flesh and bone slamming into the 50 meter, 20,000 ton kaiju. Thats gonna crush bones like glass or outright kill.

[miguelnuva]

If Heisei Ghidorah is scaled down to Showa size and weight he's going to get destroyed like his Showa counterpart if he tries to chock Godzilla Angurius and Goro would have been all over him plus if a stronger monster than Ghidorah appeared I'm sure Rodan and the others would have taken a more active part in the fight.