Rodan and kumonga vs King Ghidorah

[Kiryu2012]

^That's actually a pretty good theory. That would indeed explain how the buildings explode without a fireball. Anyways, I'm siding with the duo. Rodan was able to shrug off Ghidorah's Gravity Bolts even while flying and could knock him out of the sky. Kumonga is pretty damn durable himself, taking several Atomic Rays, including two fired simultaneously, before going down. They should be able to eventually bring down KG.

[Living Corpse]

Guys don't forget that Kumonga doesn't just sit there and spam his web and poison barb, he has tackled Godzilla several times. He's no stranger to up close melee and will jump on Ghidorah.

[Kiryu2012]

Very good point. And Ghidorah won't like being tackled by Kumi, especially if he has a stinger ready...

[GotengoXGodzilla]

King Ghidorah takes this. It didn't take many atomic rays to bring down Kumonga, so enough Gravity Bolts

Kumunga shrugged off a few Atomic Rays, it took 2 simultaneous rays to put it down, that's quite the feat And the Gravity Beams aren't at all strong, they just hurt. It'll take A LOT of constant Gravity Beams to put down the spider. And once Ghidorah takes enough of a beating he'll retreat.

After about four atomic rays or so, Kumonga started to slow down. Considering how much King Ghidorah spams the Gravity Bolts, it won't take long to reach an equivalent of four atomic rays.

Also, how the hell is Ghidorah going to take a "beating" in this fight? The worst that could happen to him is he gets rammed by Rodan a few times, and he gets webbing on his face...Oh the horror!

Seriously, Kumonga and Rodan pose no threat at all to King Ghidorah.

[miguelnuva]

King Ghidorah takes this. It didn't take many atomic rays to bring down Kumonga, so enough Gravity Bolts

Kumunga shrugged off a few Atomic Rays, it took 2 simultaneous rays to put it down, that's quite the feat And the Gravity Beams aren't at all strong, they just hurt. It'll take A LOT of constant Gravity Beams to put down the spider. And once Ghidorah takes enough of a beating he'll retreat.

After about four atomic rays or so, Kumonga started to slow down. Considering how much King Ghidorah spams the Gravity Bolts, it won't take long to reach an equivalent of four atomic rays.

Also, how the hell is Ghidorah going to take a "beating" in this fight? The worst that could happen to him is he gets rammed by Rodan a few times, and he gets webbing on his face...Oh the horror!

Seriously, Kumonga and Rodan pose no threat at all to King Ghidorah.

Can Ghidorah hit Kumonga he usually needs time to set up a shot against a small opponent. Also that ram from Rodan and web in his face might be enough to make Ghidorah leave.

[GotengoXGodzilla]

Can Ghidorah hit Kumonga he usually needs time to set up a shot against a small opponent. Also that ram from Rodan and web in his face might be enough to make Ghidorah leave.

*facepalm*

Oh...my...god. Seriously?

Since when is Kumonga small? King Ghidorah is not going to have a hard time hitting Kumonga. At all. Considering how much Ghidorah fires those damn things, and seeing how big Kumonga is, Kumonga is damn easy target.

And the rams and webbing aren't going to do a DAMN thing! It took a long ass time and hard effort to make Ghidorah retreat. Time and effort that Kumonga and Rodan don't have. Rodan doesn't ram like that, and Kumonga will be lucky if he gets even a tiny amount of webbing down.

Honestly, I really shouldn't have to spell this out for everyone! This is so stupid.

[miguelnuva]

Can Ghidorah hit Kumonga he usually needs time to set up a shot against a small opponent. Also that ram from Rodan and web in his face might be enough to make Ghidorah leave.

*facepalm*

Oh...my...god. Seriously?

Since when is Kumonga small? King Ghidorah is not going to have a hard time hitting Kumonga. [b]At all[/i]. Considering how much Ghidorah fires those damn things, and seeing how big Kumonga is, Kumonga is damn easy target.

And the rams and webbing aren't going to do a DAMN thing! It took a long ass time and hard effort to make Ghidorah retreat. Time and effort that Kumonga and Rodan don't have. Rodan doesn't ram like that, and Kumonga will be lucky if he gets even a tiny amount of webbing down.

Honestly, I really shouldn't have to spell this out for everyone! This is so stupid.

When I say small I mean on the ground Ghidorah hit Mothra once and Angurius not at all when he did have previous time to sit and aim at them.

[GotengoXGodzilla]

Can Ghidorah hit Kumonga he usually needs time to set up a shot against a small opponent. Also that ram from Rodan and web in his face might be enough to make Ghidorah leave.

*facepalm*

Oh...my...god. Seriously?

Since when is Kumonga small? King Ghidorah is not going to have a hard time hitting Kumonga. At all. Considering how much Ghidorah fires those damn things, and seeing how big Kumonga is, Kumonga is damn easy target.

And the rams and webbing aren't going to do a DAMN thing! It took a long ass time and hard effort to make Ghidorah retreat. Time and effort that Kumonga and Rodan don't have. Rodan doesn't ram like that, and Kumonga will be lucky if he gets even a tiny amount of webbing down.

Honestly, I really shouldn't have to spell this out for everyone! This is so stupid.

When I say small I mean on the ground Ghidorah hit Mothra once and Angurius not at all when he did have previous time to sit and aim at them.

What the skreeonk are you talking about? In GTTHM, Ghidorah hit Mothra at least three times. Ghidorah's aim isn't the greatest, but considering how often he fires it, and you know, having skreeonk three of them, means that if you're in Ghidorah's sight, you're screwed. Kumonga will only take so many of those before bursting into flames.

[Captain Aktion]

That's because they don't make big explosions. However, I did notice during Ghidorah's attack on Tokyo in GTTHM, that many times when he hit a building with his beams, the building would explode outward... without a visible fireball like when most beams explode things. Some buildings would only explode partially outward, before collapsing in on themselves.

A theory of mine (mind you, this is just a theory), is that Ghidorah's gravity beams utilize gravity as a weapon so that it pushes outwards. I believe that it kind of works like a reverse black hole, one that pushes outwards instead of pulling objects in, hence why the beams seemed to make the buildings it struck "explode" without any fireballs accompanying it. It could also be the reason why Ghidorah's beams do not look all that impressive when fired at the ground, because all it would really be doing is push the earth it strikes outwards. The reason why a lot of dust seems to spray out of the ground when the beam strikes. On kaiju armor, the beam's effect is less dramatic, but it's still enough to make even Godzilla back off. And seeing as it's raw gravitational force pushing his hide apart at the points that the beam strikes, it's not hard to see why he backed off.

So, just because a beam doesn't produce a whole lot of explosions, doesn't mean they're weak.

That's actually how I always thought they worked, especially after I read them referred to as "gravity beams".

[miguelnuva]

Since when is Kumonga small? King Ghidorah is not going to have a hard time hitting Kumonga. At all. Considering how much Ghidorah fires those damn things, and seeing how big Kumonga is, Kumonga is damn easy target.

And the rams and webbing aren't going to do a DAMN thing! It took a long ass time and hard effort to make Ghidorah retreat. Time and effort that Kumonga and Rodan don't have. Rodan doesn't ram like that, and Kumonga will be lucky if he gets even a tiny amount of webbing down.

Honestly, I really shouldn't have to spell this out for everyone! This is so stupid.

When I say small I mean on the ground Ghidorah hit Mothra once and Angurius not at all when he did have previous time to sit and aim at them.[/quote]

What the skreeonk are you talking about? In GTTHM, Ghidorah hit Mothra at least three times. Ghidorah's aim isn't the greatest, but considering how often he fires it, and you know, having skreeonk three of them, means that if you're in Ghidorah's sight, you're screwed. Kumonga will only take so many of those before bursting into flames.[/quote]

Two of the times he hit Mothra he had time to aim.

[PopInPicsPresents]

King Ghidorah takes this. It didn't take many atomic rays to bring down Kumonga, so enough Gravity Bolts

Kumunga shrugged off a few Atomic Rays, it took 2 simultaneous rays to put it down, that's quite the feat And the Gravity Beams aren't at all strong, they just hurt. It'll take A LOT of constant Gravity Beams to put down the spider. And once Ghidorah takes enough of a beating he'll retreat.

After about four atomic rays or so, Kumonga started to slow down. Considering how much King Ghidorah spams the Gravity Bolts, it won't take long to reach an equivalent of four atomic rays.

Maybe he slowed down because you know, it was skreeonk snowing Insects tend not to thrive well in the cold, especially when they're a tropical species..

[RedZillaKing]

Hmmm.... Ghidorah probably. While Rodan's attacks are going to hurt, I don't think he'll be able to take him down in his own. Kumonga's webs might keep KG grounded, but I don't think the poison barb's going to cut it against the dragon's durable hide. Ghidorah takes this due to extreme spamming. Eventually, Kumonga will be cooked.

The only chance they've got is if Ghidorah retreats. And for that to happen they'd have to bind and beat him mercilessly. The spider may have given Goji a tough time but it's no substitute for him in this fight...

[Gyaos]

Atomic Rays and Gravity Beams don't send the adult Mothra flying.

Atleast she wasnt outright killed. Ya know, like Kumonga?

[PopInPicsPresents]

Atomic Rays and Gravity Beams don't send the adult Mothra flying.

Atleast she wasnt outright killed. Ya know, like Kumonga?

I'm sorry but when did a Mothra larva get hit by Godzilla's Atomic Ray? It never did, it was protected by the rocks. Kumunga was weakened by the cold, then hit by 2 simultaneous Atomic Rays. That's much more then any Showa Mothra ever went through

[Gyaos]

Showa Mothra was hit with numerous Gravity beams, which where enough to cause Godzilla pain (Even if it was a rather silly scene).

[PopInPicsPresents]

Showa Mothra was hit with numerous Gravity beams, which where enough to cause Godzilla pain (Even if it was a rather silly scene).

And it was sent flying with each hit

[Gyaos]

Showa Mothra was hit with numerous Gravity beams, which where enough to cause Godzilla pain (Even if it was a rather silly scene).

And it was sent flying with each hit

Which is still better than Kumonga who would have been killed within the first volley. I'd also bring in the part in DAM where Ghidorah's gravity beams bring Gorosaurus to his knees and make Rodan flee from the battle.

[CatfaceFourtoes]

Can Ghidorah fly as fast as Rodan did in it's debut film? One thing Rodan has going for it is that destructive shockwave it generates while in flight, and it's incredible speed and maneuverability, and even a kind of power breath weapon in the first film. Other than that, Rodan really does not seem to have anything on King Ghidorah. It has three heads to it's one, and each on a long coiling neck. I can see Kumonga maybe being able to tie those necks up with its legs, and perhaps try to cocoon the space monster like a real spider does its prey, but unless it can seal those three mouths shut, it would probably be cooked eventually. Still would be a sweet battle to see though.

[PopInPicsPresents]

Showa Mothra was hit with numerous Gravity beams, which where enough to cause Godzilla pain (Even if it was a rather silly scene).

And it was sent flying with each hit

Which is still better than Kumonga who would have been killed within the first volley. I'd also bring in the part in DAM where Ghidorah's gravity beams bring Gorosaurus to his knees and make Rodan flee from the battle.

On what grounds to you say Kumunga isn't durable? Suggesting a Mothra Larva is more durable then a monster that matched Godzilla's strength is ludicrous. If it weren't for the weather and Minya's interference Godzilla would have had a much harder battle. And are we forgetting Kumunga's a smart cookie? While Ghidorah is pretty meh..It could easily fool Ghidorah by playing dead and blinding one of Ghidorah's heads, and the webs will make Ghidorah helpless, same as they did in GTTHM.

[GotengoXGodzilla]

Two of the times he hit Mothra he had time to aim.

...What the hell does that even mean? How does Ghidorah aim? Does he zone in on his target, have a little icon in his eyes that say "Target acquired!", and what not?

How the hell do you know it just wasn't firing wildly? Ghidorah doesn't need to take the time to aim to get a good shot. He just needs to fire, and he'll hit something. Also, who cares if he has to aim? It's not like it'll matter in this fight, because Kumonga is hard to miss.

Maybe he slowed down because you know, it was skreeonk snowing Insects tend not to thrive well in the cold, especially when they're a tropical species..

Um...no. He slowed down before the snow started falling. The weather had nothing to do with that. Kumonga slowed down, because he's weak to fire, and after getting hit with fire enough, it slowed him down to the point of death.

While Rodan's attacks are going to hurt,

...What attacks? What can Rodan attack Ghidorah with that would cause significant damage to him? Dropping rocks on him? Blowing wind in his face? Running away? Yeah, none of that is going to hurt Ghidorah.

Kumunga was weakened by the cold, then hit by 2 simultaneous Atomic Rays. That's much more then any Showa Mothra ever went through

A. The cold didn't weaken Kumonga. You have no proof of that.
B. The two simultaneous rays were superfluous. By the time Kumonga was hit by those rays, he was already dead. Those two rays were just there to look cool. It's like the second ray that Godzilla fires on Megaguirus after the first one already hit: The target was already dead, the second ray was not necessary.