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Re: Godzilla vs. Gomora

Postby RedZillaKing » Fri Aug 10, 2012 3:20 pm

Nope. The wound was gone before it even came into view. It was like it was never there. By contrast, Showa Godzilla's wounds were visible for a decent amount of time after.
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Re: Godzilla vs. Gomora

Postby Kiryu2012 » Fri Aug 10, 2012 3:22 pm

RedZillaKing wrote:Nope. The wound was gone before it even came into view. It was like it was never there.

It also means that the wound wasn't bad and that the stinger couldn't get in deep enough.
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Re: Godzilla vs. Gomora

Postby PopInPicsPresents » Fri Aug 10, 2012 3:43 pm

Kiryu2012 wrote:
RedZillaKing wrote:Nope. The wound was gone before it even came into view. It was like it was never there.

It also means that the wound wasn't bad and that the stinger couldn't get in deep enough.



You're seriously counting out awesome regeneration from a Godzilla who survived inside a Black Hole?
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Re: Godzilla vs. Gomora

Postby Kiryu2012 » Fri Aug 10, 2012 3:54 pm

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RedZillaKing wrote:Nope. The wound was gone before it even came into view. It was like it was never there.

It also means that the wound wasn't bad and that the stinger couldn't get in deep enough.



You're seriously counting out awesome regeneration from a Godzilla who survived inside a Black Hole?

That I can't argue with. I can easily see how one would give Godzilla credit for surviving a black hole. Still, Gomora will win just for his overall better fighting skills.
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Re: Godzilla vs. Gomora

Postby RedZillaKing » Fri Aug 10, 2012 5:13 pm

Better fighting skills doesn't necessarily equal a win. GiraGoji fights like a savage animal and, unlike Gomora heals major wounds in milliseconds. Goji is just as likely to crush Gomora's horn in his jaws as he is to accept a hit. Also, his razor sharp spines can be used defensively.
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Re: Godzilla vs. Gomora

Postby Kiryu2012 » Fri Aug 10, 2012 5:26 pm

RedZillaKing wrote:Better fighting skills doesn't necessarily equal a win. GiraGoji fights like a savage animal and, unlike Gomora heals major wounds in milliseconds. Goji is just as likely to crush Gomora's horn in his jaws as he is to accept a hit. Also, his razor sharp spines can be used defensively.

The only trouble is that Godzilla only used his jaws and spines once in the fight. And unlike Megaguirus, Gomora's not going to be striking Godzilla from all over. He's going to be beating in Godzilla's face and tossing him around.
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Re: Godzilla vs. Gomora

Postby RedZillaKing » Fri Aug 10, 2012 5:30 pm

Exactly. He'll be MUCH easier to hit, being right in Godzilla's face. Megaguirus was much better off hitting him from every direction.
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Re: Godzilla vs. Gomora

Postby Godzilla165 » Fri Aug 10, 2012 7:32 pm

See here's whats going to happen. Gomora will get right up in Godzilla's face, and start to "pound" him. Godzilla will use this as an advantage and either A. Cook Gomora's face and eyes, or B. Start tearing into him, and biting him. Sooner or later Godzilla is going to get his mouth or hands on Gomora's horn, and we all know where that is going to end up.
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Re: Godzilla vs. Gomora

Postby 62JackC » Fri Aug 10, 2012 7:52 pm

Really we're still on this?

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I think it is a matter of who will get in the most hits in and that being said Gomora will easily be the one throwing the hits first. Now I think Gomora in the end will wear out Godzilla's ass and then ultimately do his one hit KO move and no Godzilla isn't going to pull regen out of his ass when Gomora is disintegrating his insides.
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Re: Godzilla vs. Gomora

Postby GojiFan » Fri Aug 10, 2012 8:11 pm


It also means that the wound wasn't bad and that the stinger couldn't get in deep enough.
What? That logic makes no sense. The stinger clearly is jammed in rather deep, and that is perfectly clear from the movie.
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Re: Godzilla vs. Gomora

Postby Primevalgodzilla V2 » Fri Aug 10, 2012 9:12 pm

See here's whats going to happen. Gomora will get right up in Godzilla's face, and start to "pound" him. Godzilla will use this as an advantage and either A. Cook Gomora's face and eyes, or B. Start tearing into him, and biting him. Sooner or later Godzilla is going to get his mouth or hands on Gomora's horn, and we all know where that is going to end up.


Losing his mouth/hand?

I don't know where peole get the idea Gomora's horn is made of paper. Its never been damaged. Ever. And its sharp enough to penetrate ridiculously thick armors, so it has to be pretty strong.

And good luck with tearing into Gomora, who's simply a superior brawler. Gomora isn't made of paper, and yes, he will demolsih Godzilla up close, and being very intelligent fighters, neither of them will be totally outwitting the either. Godzilla stands a good chance of winning, but only because of his beam-spamming (which he isn't very accurate with anyway) and regen. He isn't going to suddenly get his claws/jaws on Gomora and beat the shit out of him. Far from it.
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Re: Godzilla vs. Gomora

Postby RedZillaKing » Sat Aug 11, 2012 3:48 am

Bullshit, bullshit to all. Gomora accepted his fair share of hits, many of them from incredibly slow opponents. Please don't act like Godzilla won't be able to get ahold of him, because that's laughable. Also, saying that this battle goes to the one who lands the most hits is ignoring a) how fights actually work, and b) the fact that GiraGoji won't be worn down. I suppose if you want to completely gloss over his abilities this fight could go that way, though. So in the case of Gomora vs. motionless GiraGoji w/ no hyper regen and animalistic fighting skills: Gomora 10/10.

The opponent we saw GiraGoji fight was a special case. It was a quick (gasp, quicker than Gomora) opponent who would often hover out of his reach. Gomora will be right in his face, right where his dangerously powerful jaws are. Why are they dangerously powerful? They crushed Megaguirus's stinger without effort. If you think that even Gomora would escape unscathed from GiraGoji's savage bite...

And Gomora will be able to do nothing to Godzilla that a black hole couldn't do. Gomora will be worn down (as we've seen before) and then Godzilla will fry him. Godzilla 8/10.
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Re: Godzilla vs. Gomora

Postby Primevalgodzilla V2 » Sat Aug 11, 2012 7:39 am

Bullshit, bullshit to all. Gomora accepted his fair share of hits, many of them from incredibly slow opponents. Please don't act like Godzilla won't be able to get ahold of him, because that's laughable. Also, saying that this battle goes to the one who lands the most hits is ignoring a) how fights actually work, and b) the fact that GiraGoji won't be worn down. I suppose if you want to completely gloss over his abilities this fight could go that way, though. So in the case of Gomora vs. motionless GiraGoji w/ no hyper regen and animalistic fighting skills: Gomora 10/10


All of this is totally irrelevant to the fact that Gomora is STILL a better T&C fighter.

And I said Godzilla has a decent chance of winning. I recall you were the one who went all Godzilla 8-9/10 and stuff.

The opponent we saw GiraGoji fight was a special case. It was a quick (gasp, quicker than Gomora) opponent who would often hover out of his reach. Gomora will be right in his face, right where his dangerously powerful jaws are. Why are they dangerously powerful? They crushed Megaguirus's stinger without effort. If you think that even Gomora would escape unscathed from GiraGoji's savage bite...


Of course he won't escape unscathed. But its silly to think that Gomora/his horn wil be demolished the moment Goji touches him or something.

And Gomora will be able to do nothing to Godzilla that a black hole couldn't do. Gomora will be worn down (as we've seen before) and then Godzilla will fry him. Godzilla 8/10.
Bullshit, bullshit to all. Gomora accepted his fair share of hits, many of them from incredibly slow opponents. Please don't act like Godzilla won't be able to get ahold of him, because that's laughable. Also, saying that this battle goes to the one who lands the most hits is ignoring a) how fights actually work, and b) the fact that GiraGoji won't be worn down. I suppose if you want to completely gloss over his abilities this fight could go that way, though. So in the case of Gomora vs. motionless GiraGoji w/ no hyper regen and animalistic fighting skills: Gomora 10/10.

The opponent we saw GiraGoji fight was a special case. It was a quick (gasp, quicker than Gomora) opponent who would often hover out of his reach. Gomora will be right in his face, right where his dangerously powerful jaws are. Why are they dangerously powerful? They crushed Megaguirus's stinger without effort. If you think that even Gomora would escape unscathed from GiraGoji's savage bite...

And Gomora will be able to do nothing to Godzilla that a black hole couldn't do. Gomora will be worn down (as we've seen before) and then Godzilla will fry him. Godzilla 8/10.


Some black hole that was...

Anyway, come on, don;t just ignore the capsule monsters fight. :P
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Re: Godzilla vs. Gomora

Postby Kiryu2012 » Sat Aug 11, 2012 8:00 am

The bottom line is, Gomora is simply a superior fighter to GXM Godzilla, who's only way of going here would be his regen and his Atomic Ray, neither of which will save him from Gomora's greater fighting skills. A better fight in my opinion would be Reiyonyx Burst Gomora vs Ozaki-charged FW Godzilla.
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Re: Godzilla vs. Gomora

Postby RedZillaKing » Sat Aug 11, 2012 8:09 am

Primevalgodzilla V2 wrote:
All of this is totally irrelevant to the fact that Gomora is STILL a better T&C fighter.

He's a better Kung Fu master and acrobat. That's not gonna mean anything here.

Primevalgodzilla V2 wrote:And I said Godzilla has a decent chance of winning. I recall you were the one who went all Godzilla 8-9/10 and stuff.

Okay, I was actually replying to 62JC. I'm aware that you gave Godzilla a chance, and I still stick to 8/10 :P .

Primevalgodzilla V2 wrote:Of course he won't escape unscathed. But its silly to think that Gomora/his horn wil be demolished the moment Goji touches him or something.

Never said they'd be demolished the second he touches them. I could see him ripping off Gomie's horn, though. Point is, while Godzilla is 100% Gomora will still retain his injuries. It's really only a matter of time before he keels over or is fried point blank.


Primevalgodzilla V2 wrote:Some black hole that was...

Anyway, come on, don;t just ignore the capsule monsters fight. :P

It managed to utterly demolish the area in seconds. Godzilla should've been destroyed too. Yet he lived on. As for the capsule monster fight, I almost laughed it off and gave it to the Super beast trio. However, I forgot just how badass the Capule trio was in the film. So I'm abstaining for now, not ignoring it altogether 8-) .
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Re: Godzilla vs. Gomora

Postby Legion1979 » Sun Aug 12, 2012 8:39 am

Gomora was able to eventually overpower and completely obliterate every single monster he was up against with a finishing move that blew his enemies apart from the inside.

If Gomora can manage to stab Godzilla with his horn, Godzilla's done. Period.

Maaaayybe Godzilla could win if he beam spams Gomora enough with his horn, but that's a big maybe. Despite not have Godzilla overrated regeneration, Gomora is faster, more agile and has a finishing move that blows enemies to kingdom come.
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Re: Godzilla vs. Gomora

Postby RedZillaKing » Sun Aug 12, 2012 8:45 am

Actually, there were times when Gomora needed help to deafeat a monster. Whether it was a power up from Rei, a distraction from the Pendragon, or an assist from Litres or Eleking.

And there is precedent for monsters surviving the SOW. You know, monsters without instant cellular regeneration?
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Re: Godzilla vs. Gomora

Postby Godzilla 2000 » Tue Aug 14, 2012 9:00 pm

RedZillaKing wrote:
Primevalgodzilla V2 wrote:
All of this is totally irrelevant to the fact that Gomora is STILL a better T&C fighter.

He's a better Kung Fu master and acrobat. That's not gonna mean anything here.


Wow.

Well, you heard it here folks! Being a better fighter means nothing in a fight!

But if you can heal minor wounds quickly, oh man, watch out!
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Re: Godzilla vs. Gomora

Postby RedZillaKing » Tue Aug 14, 2012 9:35 pm

Unwarranted mockery without substance? Sounds about right.

Anyways, only someone who has no idea whatsoever how fights actually work thinks kung fu/acrobatic skills trump everything else. In this case extreme durability, aggression, beam spam, and strength are all on Godzilla's side.
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Re: Godzilla vs. Gomora

Postby miguelnuva » Tue Aug 14, 2012 10:16 pm

Godzilla 2000 wrote:
RedZillaKing wrote:
Primevalgodzilla V2 wrote:
All of this is totally irrelevant to the fact that Gomora is STILL a better T&C fighter.

He's a better Kung Fu master and acrobat. That's not gonna mean anything here.


Wow.

Well, you heard it here folks! Being a better fighter means nothing in a fight!

But if you can heal minor wounds quickly, oh man, watch out!


If it were two people fighting it would mean something any a kaiju fight the victory will go to who ever has the better strength, regen and beam weaponry.
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