Carnotaurus vs. Spinosaurus

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Huh, well... this is interesting... To everyone who says Spino's gonna win this because he'll be able to do the ol' snapping of the neck... he's not... The Carno got scaled to 45 feet in length and 20 feet tall, right? The Spino in JP3 is only 43 feet in length and 19 feet in height (top of fin), and his head only comes up to 16 feet. Gotta love the official size chart that came with the DVD.

That's odd, the guys at Monster Archives got the sizing wrong

Height: 26 feet
Length: 50 feet

[NSZ]

That's odd, the guys at Monster Archives got the sizing wrong

Height: 26 feet
Length: 50 feet

Yeah, when I saw what they had listed, I got a gut feeling that something just wasn't right about it. Probably because I used to have the size chart mounted over my bedroom door at the old house, therefore seeing it everyday. Thank god for official documents, am I right?

So yeah, guys, with this new revelation, do you still think the Spino's gonna be able to win against Disney's monster?

[Inferno Rodan]

That's odd, the guys at Monster Archives got the sizing wrong

Height: 26 feet
Length: 50 feet

Umm. I'm almost positive we got those numbers from the official movie site...

[RedZillaKing]

Oh, do you run the Monster Archives site?

Well, here's the official word (as far as I know):



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[Inferno Rodan]

Oh, do you run the Monster Archives site?

MM runs it, but I'm on the staff, yes.

[Varan 1958]

That's odd, the guys at Monster Archives got the sizing wrong

Height: 26 feet
Length: 50 feet

Yeah, when I saw what they had listed, I got a gut feeling that something just wasn't right about it. Probably because I used to have the size chart mounted over my bedroom door at the old house, therefore seeing it everyday. Thank god for official documents, am I right?

So yeah, guys, with this new revelation, do you still think the Spino's gonna be able to win against Disney's monster?

Well, in that case, the Carnotaurus wins with ease. It's already shown that it is a powerhouse, so it could probably beat the Spino if it's that much larger than Spino.

[PopInPicsPresents]

Since the MA link says 26x50 I say we quit bitching about the official size and just use the one provided

[RedZillaKing]

Even with a five foot advantage the Carnotaurus is much more robust and a monster like that at 45 feet would still be the size he is in the picture (in comparison to the Spinosaurus). The Spino is gonna be just another prey animal.

[Primevalgodzilla V2]

Meat is meat. If that bite was in the least bit strong that Spino would've been toast. As it was, the Rex's bite barely broke the skin

That's silly. the Spino's a B-movie monster- he's obviously going to be inordinately insanely tough, even if it doesn't make any sense. Like how Godzilla can withstand missiles without being reduced to a pile of burnt meat.

Fence was in disrepair... Plane knicked him with the propeller.

And its still a steel fence no less. Bashign through one, even a weakened one, is an incredible feat. And the fence showed little signs of disrepair, the paint wasn;t even peeling! And I don't really see the point of the whole 'plane knicked him with the propeller'...

Iguanodons aren't rexes, that's for sure. However, the few seconds Aladar fought the Carno (before the beast was killed by its own weight) showed the Carno to be far superior. Obviously. Aladar merely used his superior stance, low center of gravity, and admittedly great strength to push the monster a few feet. As I'd said, the Carno wasn't taking him seriously. Moments before it had thrown a larger Iguanodon like 60 feet through the air.

Bullying something 3 times smaller than you is hardly a feat. And Aladar still managed to shove him around for abit, leading to his death. Carnotaurus never displayed enough personality to show he was playing with anything.

Wait... you don't recall him ripping massive chunks out of other dinosaurs in A DISNEY MOVIE AIMED AT KIDS? Come to think of it, neither do I. At any rate, we're dangerously close to the realm of silly here. We're talking about a film where the carno bites Aladar as he's falling and there's no damage to his flesh. Those teeth are goddamned sharp. It makes no sense. Oh. wait... It's a Disney movie aimed at kids.

Prove they are 'goddamned sharp'. Its a Disney movie, but is they didn't pierce flesh, they are weak. We base what we see from the film itself. I can fully understand why Carno wasn;t ripping chunks from his foes, but it diminishes his feats. Fullstop.

He attacked the door and couldn't bust through. That fence had been maintained for many years. It was likely very weakened by the hurricanes and the elements in general. The plane was as durable as a tin can. It was obviously very damage by the crash. As for the tyrannosaur's neck, it was NOT the bite that broke it. At all. Rather it was a twisting motion aided by the neck and arms of the Spino. Again... good luck doing that to a carnotaurus who (unlike the rex, who was 5 tons TOPS) is significantly larger and stronger.

We never saw how he attacked the door. For all we know, he could have been uanble to bash it with effective force because of how short it was. The plane was damaged, but its still steel and very durable, and the Spino was casually poking holes into it. And breraking a Rex's neck with your arms with little visible effort is bloody impressive.

Throwing an animal even half your weight with neck strength alone is incredible. We never saw Spino do anything like that. Other than the questionable feat of bashing through the fence. Which hadn't been been maintained for 7 or 8 years.

And its still a damned steel fence. A very thick steel fence he not just bashed through, but practically exploded when he ran through, with again, no injury. And also, breaking a Rex's neck with little effort. And poking holes into a plane with his snout.

Even with a five foot advantage the Carnotaurus is much more robust and a monster like that at 45 feet would still be the size he is in the picture (in comparison to the Spinosaurus). The Spino is gonna be just another prey animal.

The Spino is 8 metres tall here. He's going to be taller than the Carnotaurus. And just another prey animal? Really?

[RedZillaKing]

That's silly. the Spino's a B-movie monster- he's obviously going to be inordinately insanely tough, even if it doesn't make any sense. Like how Godzilla can withstand missiles without being reduced to a pile of burnt meat.

His toughness is inconsistent with the other theropods in the franchise who had their flesh pierced by everything from tranquilizer darts to wooden spikes. Besides, the skin had been broken... What did he have armored plating on his muscles? Godzilla is an entirely different story.

And its still a steel fence no less. Bashign through one, even a weakened one, is an incredible feat. And the fence showed little signs of disrepair, the paint wasn;t even peeling! And I don't really see the point of the whole 'plane knicked him with the propeller'...

The fence was rusted to shit. You can see that clearly. Not only that, but something smaller had previously smashed through. That's how the kid was able to slip through. The point was that the Spino was not indestructible.

Bullying something 3 times smaller than you is hardly a feat. And Aladar still managed to shove him around for abit, leading to his death. Carnotaurus never displayed enough personality to show he was playing with anything.

Look at how the Carno fights Kron. Then look at how he reacts to Aladar. Clearly taking the first fight more seriously. Why would he fight Aladar seriously? He had his kill, and Aladar was 1/3 his size.

Prove they are 'goddamned sharp'. Its a Disney movie, but is they didn't pierce flesh, they are weak. We base what we see from the film itself. I can fully understand why Carno wasn;t ripping chunks from his foes, but it diminishes his feats. Fullstop.

Here's your proof: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G6bkZY4TGkA You get a real nice look at them at 1:21. Lookit dem butter knives! They're just as sharp as lil' rexy's. No feats were diminished... The Carnos bite things, things die. Unlike the rex, who couldn't seal the deal with a neck bite, the carnos are so powerful that their bites crush the bodies of their prey.

We never saw how he attacked the door. For all we know, he could have been uanble to bash it with effective force because of how short it was. The plane was damaged, but its still steel and very durable, and the Spino was casually poking holes into it. And breraking a Rex's neck with your arms with little visible effort is bloody impressive.

The Spinosaurus was MORE than capable of attacking low. That was shown several times before. As for the plane, he was viciously attacking it. There was nothing even slightly casual about it. And it was all sorts of screwed up by the time he started tearing it up. All bent and crumbled, it was far easier to tear into. And the rex's neck was broken by the arms and head all twisting simultaneously. Awesome, sure, but that's due more to the technique than ridiculous strength. It would be like me wrapping both arms around a 1,000 lb mans head and twisting. His own weight becomes the enemy.

The Spino is 8 metres tall here. He's going to be taller than the Carnotaurus. And just another prey animal? Really?

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So you think the sail's height matters here? It does not. They're both having their size increased by 5 or 6 feet, so the carno will remain proportionately larger. If you look at the pic I posted earlier, he's the perfect height for biting the back of the Spino's neck and shaking him just like the Pachyrhinosaurus in the beginning. So yes. Really.

[Gyaos]

To add to RZK's argument, metal weakens as it corrodes over time. Steel is no diffrent.

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To add to RZK's argument, metal weakens as it corrodes over time. Steel is no diffrent.

An island off the coast of Costa Rica is bound to get a shit ton of rain so the fence couldn't of been all that durable to begin with.

[RedZillaKing]

Wanna hear the most hilarious thing of all? A real Carnotaurus wouldn't even attempt to attack a real Spinosaurus. And not for the reasons you might think either. A real carno was half a spino's length (literally) and 1/3 of it's weight at the most. The Spinosaurus would simply be too big to attack. Also, it would likely be wading or swimming around looking for its dietary staple: fish. It's incredible how off the mark both films were when it came to their starring dinos.

[Rody]

Wanna hear the most hilarious thing of all? A real Carnotaurus wouldn't even attempt to attack a real Spinosaurus. And not for the reasons you might think either. A real carno was half a spino's length (literally) and 1/3 of it's weight at the most. The Spinosaurus would simply be too big to attack. Also, it would likely be wading or swimming around looking for its dietary staple: fish. It's incredible how off the mark both films were when it came to their starring dinos.

....While Charcarodontosaurs get no love.

[SpanishBulldog63]

[quote=RedZillaKing"]A real carno was half a spino's length (literally) and 1/3 of it's weight at the most[/quote]
that and i doubt Carno(in real life) had the bite power behind its narrow skull and thin lower jaw to really do that much damage anyway

[Giral2010]

Wanna hear the most hilarious thing of all? A real Carnotaurus wouldn't even attempt to attack a real Spinosaurus. And not for the reasons you might think either. A real carno was half a spino's length (literally) and 1/3 of it's weight at the most. The Spinosaurus would simply be too big to attack. Also, it would likely be wading or swimming around looking for its dietary staple: fish. It's incredible how off the mark both films were when it came to their starring dinos.

actually, many paleontologists say that the one skeleton found had a "premature" structure and might have grown from 30-50 feet long.

[RedZillaKing]

I've never heard that theory.... But okay then!

[Rody]

actually, many paleontologists say that the one skeleton found had a "premature" structure and might have grown from 30-50 feet long.

Wait, are you referring to Spino or Carno?

[RedZillaKing]

Spinosaurus has a maximum length estimate of 18 meters (59.4 feet). That's friggin' sauropod sized.

[Rody]

Okay, I couldn't tell from Giral2010's post.

Actually, Spino lived alongside a close relative of the Carno - Rugops. As far as I know, it was about the same size as Carnotaurus.