Spacegodzilla vs Super Star Destroyer

[GojiFan]

Except the novels are written with a very large influence by George Lucas. There are some minor differences, but that is due to changes in the screen play that did not allow enough time for the author to rewrite chapters. The company has even said, beside the points that directly contradict the movies like Yoda's skin color, that those novels are to be taken as the same level of canon as the movies.

What do you think the ion cannons do? Just throw waves in the general direction of the target? It still doesn't change the fact his emp waves aren't nearly strong enough.

As a side note, never typing on a kindle fire again. This keyboard is awful.

[Kaiju-King42]

What do you think the ion cannons do? Just throw waves in the general direction of the target? It still doesn't change the fact his emp waves aren't nearly strong enough.

When you come up with evidence for this, I will believe you. But as of yet, I have not found said evidence.

[RedZillaKing]

His EMP hits Moguera and disable his laser cannons. The EMP hits the SSDs lasers (in the unshielded portion) and disables them. Imperials say WTF, Teddy bears kill them. Roll credits.

[GojiFan]

And before then he gets blasted to pieces by the thousands of turbolaser turrets.

[Kaiju-King42]

His EMP hits Moguera and disable his laser cannons. The EMP hits the SSDs lasers (in the unshielded portion) and disables them. Imperials say WTF, Teddy bears kill them. Roll credits.

Wow. Me and RedZillaKing are on the same side for once. I didn't see that one coming.

[RedZillaKing]

You give the turbolasers far too much credit. If they really were that amazing, every Rebel ship would've been blaseted out of the, um, sky. Also, I'm pretty sure I read somewhere that there are only 500 Turbolasers on an SSD. 250 light, 250 heavy. So thousands isn't accurate any way you look at it.

^Hey, you can't be wrong all the time, KK.

[Kaiju-King42]

^Hey, you can't be wrong all the time, KK.

Back at you, RZK.

[Gyaos]

For those of you saying EU isnt canon, enjoy reading:

"G (George Lucas) canon is absolute canon. This category includes the final releases of the six films, the novelizations of the films, the radio dramas based on the films, the film scripts, and any material found in any other source (published or not) that comes directly from George Lucas himself. G canon outranks all other forms of canon.


T (Television) canon, which currently comprises Star Wars: The Clone Wars and the as yet unaired live action Star Wars TV series. This level of canon is considered to take precedence over C canon (see below), possibly due to the fact that George Lucas is directly involved with these shows as executive producer, and in the case of The Clone Wars is also on the writing team.


C (continuity) canon refers to the main body of EU work, and is the next most authoritative level of canon. All material published under the Star Wars label that doesn't fall into either G, T, S, or N canon is C canon and is considered authoritative as long as it isn't contradicted by G canon."


and a quote from Lucas:

"I don't read that stuff. I haven't read any of the novels. I don't know anything about that world. That's a different world than my world. But I do try to keep it consistent. The way I do it now is they have a Star Wars Encyclopedia. So if I come up with a name or something else, I look it up and see if it has already been used. When I said [other people] could make their own Star Wars stories, we decided that, like Star Trek, we would have two universes: My universe and then this other one. They try to make their universe as consistent with mine as possible, but obviously they get enthusiastic and want to go off in other directions."


All in all, EU is completely legitmate in debates. Spacegodzilla is boned.

[GojiFan]

Um no, there are thousands. This is taken directly from the Executor's page on Star Wars wiki:

Over 5,000 turbolaser batteries and ion cannons
2,000 turbolaser batteries
2,000 heavy turbolaser batteries
250 heavy ion cannons
500 point-defense laser cannons

You can claim they aren't as amazing as I am saying, but people with far more time on their hands than I do have done the math regarding the energy it would take to accomplish what they showed in the movies and novels. Even if one turbolaser had 1/100th of the firepower of the spiral beam that killed SG, he will still get blasted to death in a moments notice. He literally stands no chance.

When you come up with evidence for this, I will believe you. But as of yet, I have not found said evidence.

My evidence is what RZK posted earlier. One blast of EMP waves took out just the lasers of Moguera. It would takes SG literally forever to accomplish the same thing against the thousands of turrets scattered across the hull of the Executor.

My other evidence is in the armaments of the Star Wars ships. Every capital ship in both trilogies have ion cannons mounted on them. Every. Single. One. If EMP attacks of any kind were so effective, we would have seen capital ships being disabled like the one in TESB all the time. Only the most powerful of ion cannons are capable of shutting down even a regular star destroyer temporarily. The Executors shields are even more powerful.

[RedZillaKing]

"I don't read that stuff. I haven't read any of the novels. I don't know anything about that world. That's a different world than my world. But I do try to keep it consistent. The way I do it now is they have a Star Wars Encyclopedia. So if I come up with a name or something else, I look it up and see if it has already been used. When I said [other people] could make their own Star Wars stories, we decided that, like Star Trek, we would have two universes: My universe and then this other one. They try to make their universe as consistent with mine as possible, but obviously they get enthusiastic and want to go off in other directions."

Thanks fpr reaffirming my beliefs.

[Gyaos]

"I don't read that stuff. I haven't read any of the novels. I don't know anything about that world. That's a different world than my world. But I do try to keep it consistent. The way I do it now is they have a Star Wars Encyclopedia. So if I come up with a name or something else, I look it up and see if it has already been used. When I said [other people] could make their own Star Wars stories, we decided that, like Star Trek, we would have two universes: My universe and then this other one. They try to make their universe as consistent with mine as possible, but obviously they get enthusiastic and want to go off in other directions."

Thanks fpr reaffirming my beliefs.

Doesnt change the fact that EU is still legitimate in debates, as per the information I listed above.

[Kaiju-King42]

^Doesn't seem that legit to me. In fact, it appears that you are contradicting yourself.

[RedZillaKing]

^Yes, yes it would appear that he has.

On the other hand I do feel bad saying that it doesn't count. EU is something that many SW fans hold dear, and I am an asshole for disregarding it. However, I just don't feel like it's anything more than someone else's "what if?" scenario.

[GojiFan]

Thanks fpr reaffirming my beliefs.

I like the part where it said "the novelizations of the films" are under absolute canon. So basically what I have been saying this whole time is still true. Good day to you sir!

On the other hand I do feel bad saying that it doesn't count. EU is something that many SW fans hold dear, and I am an asshole for disregarding it.

Honestly, if it wasn't for the EU I wouldn't be nearly as interested in Star Wars. Lucas' story was good at first, but his story telling went downhill. A lot. The EU has many incredible stories and most of the battles in stuff like the clone wars TV series are so much more entertaining than the ones in the movies.

[RedZillaKing]

I like the part where it said "the novelizations of the films" are under absolute canon. So basically what I have been saying this whole time is still true. Good day to you sir!

I bet you do. Hey Gyaos... source? All that matters is that little blurb from the interview. I mean, damn, a source that contradicts the only absolute canon (the films) should be taken very lightly. Wrong Yoda color? Wrong Bounty Hunters entirely? Is the script for a movie canon despite scenes being cut or changed entirely. Nope.

Honestly, if it wasn't for the EU I wouldn't be nearly as interested in Star Wars. Lucas' story was good at first, but his story telling went downhill. A lot. The EU has many incredible stories and most of the battles in stuff like the clone wars TV series are so much more entertaining than the ones in the movies.

I agree. Lucas wasn't even a good Idea Man later on. Midichlorians, anyone? BTW, you remind me of someone on the RS forums.... Coincidence?