Spacegodzilla vs Super Star Destroyer

[RedZillaKing]

300,000 times stronger than steel... Yet the bridge was vaporized when a fighter smashed into it. I think that number doesn't hold up to scrutiny. Also, the Corona beam could be many times more powerful (certainly many times more versatile) than a laser weapon (and they certainly weren't all turbolasers, I can telly you that). And what of the beast's own shields?

And what's going to stop an 80,000 ton monster from putting his foot through the bridge?

[Gyaos]

My life isnt complete until someone makes a Spacegodzilla vs Galactic Empire thread.

[GojiFan]

The rebels used an ion cannon, not an esp cannon to disable the star destroyers.

Whoops you're right. Too bad in the SW universe ion cannons and emp weapons are used for the same function and have exactly the same effect. In short SpaceGodzilla is going to land on the 3-19 km ship anfd tear it the f*** apart.

It took several shots from a planetary defense weapon to disable a regular Star Destroyer. It's also different than an emp because it is not just waves of electromagnetic radiation, but a concentrated blast that does physical damage to the armor as well.

As for the whole durasteel thing, most Star Wars fighters' armor can take multiple shots from other Star Wars fighters. To put into perspective of what durasteel can take, there is some quote in one of the books that a starfighter's weapons on the lowest possible input could vaporize a human. Anything SG throws at the SSD is going to be like a mosquito bite.

If they could planet bust, why a Death Star? If they were as powerful as nuclear blasts, why didn't they destroy other ships armor completely when one SSD was destroyed because an A-Wing flew into the command bridge?

First, because all capital ships have energy shields. Second, the A-wing crash did not destroy the SSD. It caused the ship to crash into the second Death Star and then it exploded. The bridge is still very much intact. Also, the A-Wing flew through the glass not the durasteel armor of the ship.

In truth, I spent a while trying to look up the power of turbo lasers. The answer I found seems to be slightly less than your average atomic ray. Then I found one stating that it could barely weld enough power to destroy a house, and yet another stating it was city busting power level. What the shreeonk? You know, I don't think that there is an official power level. based on what I saw in the films, I'm gonna have to go with atomic ray power myself.

The problem with the turbolaser argument you brought up is that they are different sizes of turbolasers. AT-AT's use turbolasers as well. But seeing as how this is a SSD, there will be hundreds or maybe even thousands of heavy turbolasers mounted on the ship (which are the city bombarding kind).

[Darkness]

I honestly wasn't that impressed with the Star Destroyers. Since the Super Star Destroyer is so much larger than SpaceGodzilla, I could see him creating a mass of crystals within the ship, destroying it from the inside out. Seems like something he'd do, as it would not only massively damage the ship, but they would also provide him with more energy.

[Kaiju-King42]

I just thought of something. What if SG attempts to grow crystals on the SSD like with the space station in his movie? Just food for thought.

Edit: Whoops, the guy above me addressed this issue a second before I did.

[GojiFan]

I honestly wasn't that impressed with the Star Destroyers. Since the Super Star Destroyer is so much larger than SpaceGodzilla, I could see him creating a mass of crystals within the ship, destroying it from the inside out. Seems like something he'd do, as it would not only massively damage the ship, but they would also provide him with more energy.

Except he will be dead almost instantly when thousands of blasts from the turbolasers collide into him. SG never showed the ability to hold his shield up for more than a few brief seconds, which is the only amount of time he might survive.

[RedZillaKing]

Lol, what? What makes you think that the turbolasers will instantly destroy him? This is one of the most powerful kaiju ever. Way to overestimate tech.

As far as how the ion cannons work vs the emp, the pulse itself does not have to be fired at a specific target and it does not need to destroy armor to work on the electrical systems of the SSD. And spacegodzilla will likely damage the hull just by landing on, as massive as he is. God help them if they target his crystals. They will literally be adding fuel to the fire.

The gravity tornadoes too could be a menace, being potentially able to tear sections of the hull free. I'd bet that the lasers in the immediate vicinity will have their electrical systems fried. And whether the rebel fighter destroyed the Executor or not, it rendered it completely unoperational.

And the crystal growing option is on e that SG will likely use, too. Good point.

[Gyaos]

Way to completely overestimate a kaiju.

Secondly I highly doubt Spacegodzilla is absorbing ALL the energy from a blast of that magnitude. He may be able to absorb beams and stuff from the toho universe just fine, but keep in mind that those where nowhere NEAR the power of a Turbolaser. Im also certain that Spacegodzilla has limits to what he can absorb before he overloads like in the film. There is absolutly no way in heaven, earth, or hell hes absorbing a bombardment of that magnitude. Unless you're implying that Spacegodzilla is so high and mighty that he can absorb thousands of city crushing blasts.

Also Spacegodzilla had trouble lifting Godzilla with his gravity tornado. I'ld love to see him try that something several kilometers long.

[GojiFan]

Lol, what? What makes you think that the turbolasers will instantly destroy him? This is one of the most powerful kaiju ever. Way to overestimate tech.

Way to overestimate kiaju. SG is one tough bastard... for a kaiju. He is up against an opponent who has more firepower in one of it's thousands of guns than SG has all together. SG will be absolutely murdered if even one heavy turbo laser shot hits him. Take it from a resident Star Wars fan; a few heavy turbo lasers are on a completely different level of power than SG is. You want a comparison of the difference? Here is a quote about a regular Star Destroyer from one of the cannon comics:

"Have you ever seen what a Star Destroyer can do to the surface of an unshielded planet? Stones run like water and sand turns to glass."

Edit: Some more- "Yes, I know I should be directing the battle from the ship. Yes, I know we could reduce the surface of Dinlo to molten slag from orbit."

"As a public-relations stunt, Shild was authorized to blockade Nal Hutta and turn the smuggler's moon into molten slag."

Here is a little quote about Y-wings. Tiny little bombers that harness not even a .001% of the firepower of a SSD:
"Grand Isle would be no match for two squadrons of Y-wings. In addition to two laser cannons, the Y-wings sported twin ion cannons and two proton torpedo launchers. Each ship carried eight torpedoes, which meant either of the squadrons packed enough firepower to turn the lush, verdant landscape of Grand Isle into a black, smoking mass of liquid rock."

As far as how the ion cannons work vs the emp, the pulse itself does not have to be fired at a specific target and it does not need to destroy armor to work on the electrical systems of the SSD. And spacegodzilla will likely damage the hull just by landing on, as massive as he is. God help them if they target his crystals. They will literally be adding fuel to the fire.

Yes SG is massive in Toho terms. He is A LOT smaller compared to a lot of SW creatures that regular Star Destroyers have no problem killing. And he is going to damage the hull by landing on it? Good for him, he will damage an extremely small portion of the ship and become an easy target from all directions. Landing on the hull would be suicide since he wouldn't even have the hope of his shield deflecting the laser shots since they will come from all directions.

The gravity tornadoes too could be a menace, being potentially able to tear sections of the hull free. I'd bet that the lasers in the immediate vicinity will have their electrical systems fried. And whether the rebel fighter destroyed the Executor or not, it rendered it completely unoperational.

So the gravity tornado.. is going to cause tons of damage to the giant 19,000 meter long space ship? Right. And the A-wing got away with it because the force field generator was destroyed and it was so fast and nimble that the laser batteries couldn't hit it. SG doesn't have an armada with him to destroy the generator, nor is he as nimble as an A-wing.

[Darkness]

I seriously don't even recall the blasts from a SSD to be that powerful. They destroy smaller ships from what I recall. That's. About. It. Keep in mind, I'm only going off of what I've seen in the SW movies. How good is their aim for the most part? SpaceGodzilla is much smaller than the SSD and can fly. If a small ship can fly through a SSD and do damage, I don't see what's stopping him from plowing right through it himself.

[Kaiju-King42]

Damn, this would make a great fan fic short.
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Well, I just might have something to do this weekend.

[Gyaos]

I seriously don't even recall the blasts from a SSD to be that powerful. They destroy smaller ships from what I recall. That's. About. It. Keep in mind, I'm only going off of what I've seen in the SW movies. How good is their aim for the most part? SpaceGodzilla is much smaller than the SSD and can fly. If a small ship can fly through a SSD and do damage, I don't see what's stopping him from plowing right through it himself.

The SSDs have far more feats in comics and novels than they do in-film. Normal Star Destroyers had little to no trouble hitting the Star Fighters. SG, being much larger than the latter ships, would be a pretty easy target to hit. As Gojifan said, the only reason it was able to accomplish this feat was because the shield generator was down.

[GojiFan]

I seriously don't even recall the blasts from a SSD to be that powerful. They destroy smaller ships from what I recall. That's. About. It. Keep in mind, I'm only going off of what I've seen in the SW movies. How good is their aim for the most part? SpaceGodzilla is much smaller than the SSD and can fly. If a small ship can fly through a SSD and do damage, I don't see what's stopping him from plowing right through it himself.

I edited my last post to include several quotes about the firepower Star Wars ships, Destroyers and fighters alike, possess. And the Star Destroyers never shot at the ground, of course you never saw any of that level of destruction. But even a glancing blow from one of the laser batteries on any Star Destroyer is enough to destroy a fighter.

[Darkness]

See, that's the thing, I'm just a casual SW fan. I like the Star Wars movies, but I never found it interesting enough to look into the comics or novels. So I know next to nothing about anything outside of the films. Just stating that they didn't seem all that tough in the films.

[Kaiju-King42]

Ah, well that explains it then. Comic book characters are always far more powerful than there movie counterparts. Take the recent Movie Hulk for instance. He's not clapping away galaxies last time I checked.

[Gyaos]

Is this sereously going to turn out to be another "omg comics are so overpowered!!1!1!!" thread? Also not all comic characters are insanely powerful. The SSDs have accomplished similar feats in novels if I recall.

[GojiFan]

Is this sereously going to turn out to be another "omg comics are so overpowered!!1!1!!" thread? Also not all comic characters are insanely powerful. The SSDs have accomplished similar feats in novels if I recall.

Yes they have. Star Destroyers didn't get their name because someone thought it sounded cool. They got it because they are good at skreeonk shit up.

[RedZillaKing]

There's a few things here that are SO wrong. First of all, wtf? Comics and novels and video games are NOT canon. What's "canon" in Star Wars is narrowed down to the films and Clone Wars. That's it. Please don't treat the convoluted to shit EU as canonical. It's official fanfiction, nothing more. And it often contradicts the films, as silly as that is. Hey did you know that the second Death Star was just a vessel for IG88?

Second of all, if SpaceGodzilla is ON the SSD, how are all of its turbolasers going to be trained on him? That would be like shooting yourself in the face to swat a fly. It would be a (relative) few turbolasers in his vicinity, and they would likely be effected by his pulse, anyway. A collision with a medium sized asteroid destroyed the bridge of a Star Destroyer. SpaceGodzilla's tail could penetrate the bridge/hull no problem.

As for the turbolasers, they aren't all that either. ATATs are equipped with turbolasers, and they hit more like grenades than an incredible death beam. All they did was throw troops around and kick up snow. Moguera's laser cannon that comes out of his chest is extremely powerful, and SpaceGodzilla shrugged that off. Hell, look at Episode II... Slave I is equipped with heavy laser cannons as its primary weapon and they failed to vaporize Obi Wan.... Who was caught in the blast! I know those aren't turbolasers, but come on!

And Gyaos, I said that he could destroy sections of the SSD. Not move the whole thing with his gravity tornadoes. That's just silly. Way to imagine that I overestimated a kaiju.

I swear you people have this thing mixed up with the Death Star itself.

[Gyaos]

Wait a minute, you act as if the Gravity Tornado is capable of inflicting physical damage apon contact. It did no such thing to Godzilla other than make him glow bright yellow. There was no indication that there was any kind of damage being delt. Being lifted into the air telepathically doesnt crush, maim or damage you at all.

[RedZillaKing]

I didn't act like that at all. I'm merely stating that I believe it could peel sections off the ship's hull. Not inflict damage on contact. Never said that. It's TK, that's all.