UKRS: Round 2 TG vs. PG

[Stuckey]

Round 2 of the UKRS! THE GODZILLA vs. Primevalgodzilla V2!

TG's Team:
Armored Mephilas
Guts Seijin
Cosmos Baltan
Gloker Rook
Izak

PG's Team:
Psychokino Seijin
Zamshaa
Knackle Seijin
Neo-Giomos
Jumbo King

Arena: 17. Moscow

Rules: Combatants are in scale to a 40-meter tall Ultraman.
Banned Abilities: Armored Mephilas does not have the Sword of Darkness, Cosmos Baltan cannot use his Ice Beam, change into Neo form, and can only heal minor wounds, Knackle Seijin cannot use the Crucifix Beam

Let the discussion begin! Keep in mind the arena while making your decisions. You MUST be involved in the discussion for your vote to count in the voting round.

[PopInPicsPresents]

Baltan's Blade Field could literally take out PG's entire team. I'm gonna give this too THE GODZILLA.

[Primevalgodzilla V2]

Firstly, you need to see Cosmos Baltan in action. The blade field will be a distraction at best. Even Neo Baltan's blade storm was useless against Cosmos' basal form. It won't be 'literally taking out' anyone. Now, someone here has a truly sharp blade....

[RedZillaKing]

Does Armored Mephilas have a sword?

[PopInPicsPresents]

Firstly, you need to see Cosmos Baltan in action. The blade field will be a distraction at best. Even Neo Baltan's blade storm was useless against Cosmos' basal form. It won't be 'literally taking out' anyone. Now, someone here has a truly sharp blade....

I wouldn't say that I mean aren't Ultra's breaking blade type weapons all the time with their hands alone? Your immobile, team mates will most likely be killed by this attack. I'm looking at you Jumbo King, and possibly Neo-Giomos.

[Stuckey]

Does Armored Mephilas have a sword?

Yes, he does. It's just the normal one of his and not the Sword of Darkness. Nevertheless it's still pretty strong, able to smack Rei's Gomora around with it.

[Primevalgodzilla V2]

Mephilas' weapon is quite nasty, but I think we can all agree here that it pales compared to Zamshaa's hoshikimaru, who's more skilled with it too.

Firstly, you need to see Cosmos Baltan in action. The blade field will be a distraction at best. Even Neo Baltan's blade storm was useless against Cosmos' basal form. It won't be 'literally taking out' anyone. Now, someone here has a truly sharp blade....

I wouldn't say that I mean aren't Ultra's breaking blade type weapons all the time with their hands alone? Your immobile, team mates will most likely be killed by this attack. I'm looking at you Jumbo King, and possibly Neo-Giomos.

Ultra's don;t break blade type weapons. And basically the only reason why you are saying this is because apparently, every sword is as sharp as the Ultra Slash.

Fact reamins that those blades aren't sharp. They are just a pain in the ass. You can't just assume they will slice my team to ribbons. As for the Ultra thing...firstly, Ultras do get cut. Those blades that don't cut them aren't particularly sharp to begin with. And besically, the only evidence the blades will kill my team is that Cosmos shattered them. That's hardly a strong argument. And absence of evidence isn't evidence of absence. You need to prove those blades are sharp, not just because they look initmidating. The real threat in Baltan's arsenal is his lightning bolts.

Jumbo King will just laugh the attack off. It will fustrate Neo Giomos, but it won't do much damage to him. Same for everyone except Psychoknio, who can just stop/destroy the blades with her mind anyway.

[THE GODZILLA]

Does Armored Mephilas have a sword?

Gonna quote what I said in the other thread since the stats are very confusing.

MM did a REALLY shitty job of making Armored Memphilas' power list when he's as large as a kaiju, so let me explain that stuff. First, he doesn't have an energy "beam" at all. It's a projectile blast of energy. The Sword of Darkness is only used when he's human height. Otherwise, he only has that blade on his arm (it's an amazing weapon though). The energy slash is never used as kaiju sized.

For further clarification, this energy blast took Mikulas out of the fight with a single shot. Pretty impressive, since Galaxy Mikulas is a surprisingly tough cookie. As for the shield he has, it completely blocked Gomola's Oscillatory Wave without any problems. It's a small radius, but he's really damn good at aiming it and reacting to attacks.

Anyway, this is a pretty neat match. I don't know jack squat about Psychokino Seijin; can someone let me know what these little "kids" can do? Also, I think you're looking at Memphilas from the wrong angle, PG. Yeah, Zamshaa is quicker with his weapon, but Memphilas isn't a quick swordsman; he's more of a bruiser. He kicked the tar out of Gomola and Mikulas, even breaking free when both had a good hold on him. Whether or not they clash or not is up for debate, as it's gonna be chaotic when the fight starts.

I'll have to get back to this over the weekend when I have some free time. I'd like to point out that this match is by no means a blowout, and should definitely be discussed before any sides are picked.

[Primevalgodzilla V2]

If Memphilas and Zamshaa engage, they will likely be blocking each other's blows though, since both primarily use blade-type weapon infused with a bit of melee. Zamshaa will be shoved around because of Mephilas' very high physical strength, but he will be the one landing most of the hits- and Hoshikimaru is probably one of the deadliest melee weapons in Ultraman.

Psychoknio is surprisingly dangerous. Even at 5 feet tall she was already capable of paralyzing kaiju-sized beings indefinitely, and crushing an Imperialiser (well, a wrecked Imperialiser, but at least an arm and a leg were intact, and those are certainly alot bigger than Psychoknio, who's scaled up now).

[RedZillaKing]

Thanks TG. I was wondering how Armored Mephilas would stack up against everyone's favorite space samurai. I personally think the Psychokino Seijin is in trouble, being a very desirable target for some of the more sadistic monsters. Talk about glass cannons.

[Primevalgodzilla V2]

I don;t think the fighters here will want to be sadistic when she's just a little girl in a corner with occasionally flashing eyes, while the other 4 are going all tooth, claw and energy rays on them. And if they try to get up close to her (main fighting technique for most Ultra monsters), she can just straight up paralyse them which she can do as long as she likes.

[Draglord]

Anyway, this is a pretty neat match. I don't know jack squat about Psychokino Seijin; can someone let me know what these little "kids" can do?

Here's the episode they appear in (with English subs): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ip5RaahKfu4 and http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ryUHtgqW4_I


If anybody can provide any vids of Armored Memphilas, I'd appreciate it. I want to see every monster's fights before I decide which team I wanna side with. That way, I know that nobody is overrating/underrating any of the monsters here.

[RedZillaKing]

Off topic that's one of the things that pisses me off. Ultra shows are so hard to find anywhere.

[Primevalgodzilla V2]

Cosmos Baltan
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xrVht67HwHc
Izak
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yAJxz_aqE88
Gloker Rook (the second Gloker to appear)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1MU5Zqplrbc&feature=related
Guts
(???)
Armored Memphilas
(was on Veoh once. That's how I watched the series until it got taken down)

Psychokino
(see Draglord's post)
Zamshaa
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BP8f0uH5x_k
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ryUHtgqW4_I
Jumbo King
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Er7hZkVIu94
Knackle
http://www.veoh.com/watch/v741341QFkbrpPX?h1=Ultraman+Mebius+%26+Ultra+Brothers
(skip to around 50 minutes)
Neo Giomos
(no clip of the full battle online, a snippet near the end, but that hardly helps)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jLPLgGcrrZ4

[Draglord]

Here's the full Neo Giomos fight if anybody is interested: http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xsbgai ... shortfilms

[RedZillaKing]

Awesome. Thanks guys! Neo Giomos seems like a souped up Eleking to me. His aim sucks, though.

[Primevalgodzilla V2]

I'd imagine he would land more hits on opponents slower, less agile than Dyna and his size (everyone is the latter here). And considering its more or less impossible to hurt him from a distance, slower opponents will go down. And having a huge area of effect, his bolt spam is particularly deadly in team battles.

[RedZillaKing]

I watch Zamusha's episode again and damn, that blade is ridiculous. I imagine it could one-shot kaiju of average durability with one of his really powerful swings. What a badass. On the other hand, his normal strikes aren't that powerful, and I feel like Armored Mephilas is going to give him a good amount of trouble. There's also the distinct possibility that the powerful Memphilas could shatter Zamusha's Hoshikimaru. I mean hell, Mebius of all weaklings cracked it.

Regarding Neo Giomos's bolts: Dyna kept getting closer and the bolts kept missing. Somehow.

[Primevalgodzilla V2]

Actually, its not so much Zamshaa has 'normal strikes' and 'powerful strikes' since every time Zamshaa landed a direct hit on anything, he landed a fatal blow on it, but because those swings enemies did survive, he only landed a glancing blow. Valkie survived one or two hits because he kept dodging the main swipe and only the tip of the blade struck him. And Mebius and Hikari's blades bifurcate powerful kaiju with extreme ease and regularity, and Zamshaa casually deflected an extremely powerful beam attack back to its source, so I'd reckon the blade won't be cracked easily.

About the Giomos thing, he did hit him in the end, and probably would have continued pelting him when he was down if not for Super GUTS' interference. And Dyna was a fair bit smaller than Giomos, slender (that in particular is important since most of Gomos' misses weren't by much), fast and agile, making him harder to hit. Of course, that would make Izak a serious problem, but the tiger can't really do much to him either.

[THE GODZILLA]

Thanks for the info on our little psychic friend PG.

Guts Seijin- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hGPjFK62sYo

His only fight is early in this clip, and he absolutely roflstomps Ultraseven. I sent Stuckey clips of Armored Memphilas, so if you see him online, ask him and he might deliver.

Alright, so I'll offer some more input (I still need to watch all of the battles). I'm gonna have to agree on the idea that Psychokino is actually in a very dangerous situation here. As mentioned, my team is... Well, full of assholes, haha. I don't think they're going to ignore her (maaaaybe Izak wouldn't care, but the others I doubt). Hell, Armored Memphilas was shown trying to crush Rei with his blade. Sounds like she could be annoying though; I imagine if they did choose to ignore her initially, she'd be blown up pretty quickly after she initiates.

Neo Giomos was pretty neat; he's pretty damn awkward though... Like, he just can't seem to hit anything with his bolts. Izak would very easily wipe the floor with him if he had trouble with Dyna's speed. He pulled a fatality on Agul and fought for a very, VERY long time with Gaia. Hell, I could see him seriously messing up Zamshaa before he even lands a hit.

Another thing to consider... I have two tricksters on my team (Guts and Baltan). Guts alone could potentially keep anyone of PG's team members locked down for awhile.