Moguera vs. King Ghidorah

[JoBattra]

http://www.tohokingdom.com/kaiju/moguera_heisei.htm#m
vs.
http://www.tohokingdom.com/kaiju/king_g ... sei.htm#kg

-Fight to the Death
-No outside interference
-Fight takes place in Tokyo City

I'm giving this one to Moguera, the mech's durability and array of weaponry will eventually bring him victory.

[Kiryu2012]

M.O.G.U.E.R.A wins. King Ghidorah will give it trouble, but the mech can outlast him long enough to get a good shot with it's Spiral Grenade Launchers.

[pknight96]

M.O.G.U.E.R.A. wins because Heisei Ghidorah blows. Hard.

[Kiryu2012]

M.O.G.U.E.R.A. wins because Heisei Ghidorah blows. Hard.

Heisei Ghidorah...blows. I...don't see how he's bad in the first place.

[Infinity]

Heisei Ghidorah, while still better than the rediculously overrated GKG, is still not that great. A monster/mech with powerful weapons can easily tear apart his wings and necks, which is what Moguera will do here. If it where MKG, he would have stood a better chance due to his Machine hand and antigravity field.

[pknight96]

Heisei Ghidorah, while still better than the rediculously overrated GKG, is still not that great.

Ehh, WHAT? You're kidding, right? You mean the Ghidorah that needed to be beaten in the past just so Leo had a shot at winning? The one who may be able to beat Heisei Goji? The same Goji that killed Heisei Ghidorah, then destroyed MKG, Mechagodzilla 2, Moguera, Spacegodzilla, and DESTROYAH? If you take Heisei Ghidorah, and put him against GKG, the match would be laughably short and one-sided in GKG's favor.

[edgaguirus]

KG could cause damage to Moguera, but not defeat the robot. If Moguera could go toe to toe with SG, then Moguera won't be overwhelmed by KG. Moguera's weapons, primarily the spiral grenades, will do harm. A spiral grenade could easily blow off a neck if it hit one.

[Infinity]

Ehh, WHAT? You're kidding, right? You mean the Ghidorah that needed to be beaten in the past just so Leo had a shot at winning? The one who may be able to beat Heisei Goji? The same Goji that killed Heisei Ghidorah, then destroyed MKG, Mechagodzilla 2, Moguera, Spacegodzilla, and DESTROYAH? If you take Heisei Ghidorah, and put him against GKG, the match would be laughably short and one-sided in GKG's favor.

This again? Didn't we discuss this earlier in this thread?

http://www.tohokingdom.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=10349&start=0#p374996

If you are going to make statements like "GKG can beat Heisei Godzilla", than back them up, as otherwise its just weightless opinion. I don't care whether GKG can beat HKG in a few seconds or not but claiming he can kill Heisei Godzilla is BS. Nothing can beat Heisei Godzilla short of SMG, Space Godzilla and Armor Mothra, atleast in the Heisei series.

[Kaiju-King42]

M.O.G.U.E.R.A. wins because Heisei Ghidorah blows. Hard.

Now I see the reason for a like button.

But yeah, although I find spiral grenades to be incredibly overrated, I can see Moguera winning. Ghidorah will be a tough opponent though.

[pknight96]

Ehh, WHAT? You're kidding, right? You mean the Ghidorah that needed to be beaten in the past just so Leo had a shot at winning? The one who may be able to beat Heisei Goji? The same Goji that killed Heisei Ghidorah, then destroyed MKG, Mechagodzilla 2, Moguera, Spacegodzilla, and DESTROYAH? If you take Heisei Ghidorah, and put him against GKG, the match would be laughably short and one-sided in GKG's favor.

This again? Didn't we discuss this earlier in this thread?

http://www.tohokingdom.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=10349&start=0#p374996

If you are going to make statements like "GKG can beat Heisei Godzilla", than back them up, as otherwise its just weightless opinion. I don't care whether GKG can beat HKG in a few seconds or not but claiming he can kill Heisei Godzilla is BS. Nothing can beat Heisei Godzilla short of SMG, Space Godzilla and Armor Mothra, atleast in the Heisei series.

Ok then, fine.

1. Godzilla's Atomic Ray probably won't get through the light barrier. The Spiral Ray probably would, but not the regular ray.

2. GKG can actually aim his Gravity Bolts.

3. If Heisei Mothra's wing lightning was enough to hold Godzilla off for a while, GKG's surely will.

4. The only thing Goji's got going for him is regeneration, and nuclear pulse. But GKG beam spams, so is that enough?

5. What about Destroyah? You don't think he can kill Heisei Goji (Without military interference)?

[Reaper Man]

Moguera's pretty tough, as it was able to take hits from SpaceGodzilla before eventually going down. Don't underestimate Ghidorah's durability, as he could take hits from Godzilla before going down. I'm not sure this one. I think Ghidorah has the speed to dodge Moguera's SGM and maser, while the eye lasers aren't going to much to him. Moguera can take hits, but enough beam spamming would put him down. However, if Moguera landed hits with is heavier weapons I can see him winning this. KG gave Godzilla a tough fight before losing, Moguera would likely have done the same.

Undecided.

[Infinity]

Ok then, fine.

1. Godzilla's Atomic Ray probably won't get through the light barrier. The Spiral Ray probably would, but not the regular ray.

2. GKG can actually aim his Gravity Bolts.

3. If Heisei Mothra's wing lightning was enough to hold Godzilla off for a while, GKG's surely will.

4. The only thing Goji's got going for him is regeneration, and nuclear pulse. But GKG beam spams, so is that enough?

5. What about Destroyah? You don't think he can kill Heisei Goji (Without military interference)?

1, Heisei Godzilla's beam is far more powerful than Mothra leo's average beams (mineral chest beam and all). The only powerful attacks Mothra had throughout the ROM series are; Sunbuster, multi division and TF. I can bet you that Heisei Godzilla can take down Daghara far more easily than ML can ever do, and that too without any cheap transformations. The King has his pulse, his incredibly powerful limbs and his beam. All of those would make short work of Daghara.

2, Yes GKG can aim his gravity bolts. But he fires much less than the other Ghidorah. His bolts aren't impressive either since they failed to do any visible damage to Mothra, or even put him out of commission for a short while, i.e K.O.

3, Mothra's wing lightning was effective because it scattered Godzilla's own beam back at him and it was doing small but continous damage since the lightning would keep hitting him again and again. Battra's contribution made it worse for Godzilla.

4, You are dead wrong. Godzilla has arms, a massive tail and alot more strength in him and if you count in the version onwards from 1993, he got far more aggressive too because his son was involved. He would chase Space Godzilla and keep on beating him up even when he was clearly weaker than him. To be honest, I don't think Space Godzilla could really put down Godzilla for good.

That aside, I consider his charged blue beam to be as powerful as Armor Mothra's forehead beam (specially from 1993-1994). It will damage the dragon (not as much as it did to Rodan, but just enough to cause some serious pain). In close combat, Godzilla would break this Ghidorah's necks.

5, No I don't.

[Kiryu2012]

Ok then, fine.

1. Godzilla's Atomic Ray probably won't get through the light barrier. The Spiral Ray probably would, but not the regular ray.

2. GKG can actually aim his Gravity Bolts.

3. If Heisei Mothra's wing lightning was enough to hold Godzilla off for a while, GKG's surely will.

4. The only thing Goji's got going for him is regeneration, and nuclear pulse. But GKG beam spams, so is that enough?

5. What about Destroyah? You don't think he can kill Heisei Goji (Without military interference)?

1, Heisei Godzilla's beam is far more powerful than Mothra leo's average beams (mineral chest beam and all). The only powerful attacks Mothra had throughout the ROM series are; Sunbuster, multi division and TF. I can bet you that Heisei Godzilla can take down Daghara far more easily than ML can ever do, and that too without any cheap transformations. The King has his pulse, his incredibly powerful limbs and his beam. All of those would make short work of Daghara.

2, Yes GKG can aim his gravity bolts. But he fires much less than the other Ghidorah. His bolts aren't impressive either since they failed to do any visible damage to Mothra, or even put him out of commission for a short while, i.e K.O.

3, Mothra's wing lightning was effective because it scattered Godzilla's own beam back at him and it was doing small but continous damage since the lightning would keep hitting him again and again. Battra's contribution made it worse for Godzilla.

4, You are dead wrong. Godzilla has arms, a massive tail and alot more strength in him and if you count in the version onwards from 1993, he got far more aggressive too because his son was involved. He would chase Space Godzilla and keep on beating him up even when he was clearly weaker than him. To be honest, I don't think Space Godzilla could really put down Godzilla for good.

That aside, I consider his charged blue beam to be as powerful as Armor Mothra's forehead beam (specially from 1993-1994). It will damage the dragon (not as much as it did to Rodan, but just enough to cause some serious pain). In close combat, Godzilla would break this Ghidorah's necks.

5, No I don't.

Where you're getting that Grand King Ghidorah, Spacegodzilla, and Destroyah suck is beyond me.

[Infinity]

Where you're getting that Grand King Ghidorah, Spacegodzilla, and Destroyah suck is beyond me.

I like how you came up with such a well thought out and generalized statement from everything I just wrote. I mean, you have to be BLIND to not actually find "Destoroyah, Space Godzilla, and GKG sucks" line anywhere in my posts in this thread.

[pknight96]

Where you're getting that Grand King Ghidorah, Spacegodzilla, and Destroyah suck is beyond me.

I like how you came up with such a well thought out and generalized statement from everything I just wrote. I mean, you have to be BLIND to not actually find "Destoroyah, Space Godzilla, and GKG sucks" line anywhere in my posts in this thread.

You do nothing but bad mouth them... you even said GKG was WORSE than HEISEI GHIDORAH. You know, the one that was alive for an hour, destroyed a city, then dies, rebuilt in the future as MKG, then dies again? Meanwhile, GKG was born at the beginning of time, destroyed planets, wiped out nearly all life on Earth in the Cretaceous Period, then got dropped in a volcano, then come to find out it didn't die, then dies? They aren't even compareable in terms of power! Meanwhile, the only reason Goji even fought the way he did against Spacegoji and Dessy was his kid! Take the kid out of the mix. GKG doesn't have his kid, and isn't fighting his kid. What now? He tries to fight GKG like he fought Heisei Ghidorah, which DEFINITELY won't work on a more durable and intelligent, although more arrogant, GKG.

[Infinity]

You do nothing but bad mouth them... you even said GKG was WORSE than HEISEI GHIDORAH. You know, the one that was alive for an hour, destroyed a city, then dies, rebuilt in the future as MKG, then dies again? Meanwhile, GKG was born at the beginning of time, destroyed planets, wiped out nearly all life on Earth in the Cretaceous Period, then got dropped in a volcano, then come to find out it didn't die, then dies? They aren't even compareable in terms of power! Meanwhile, the only reason Goji even fought the way he did against Spacegoji and Dessy was his kid! Take the kid out of the mix. GKG doesn't have his kid, and isn't fighting his kid. What now? He tries to fight GKG like he fought Heisei Ghidorah, which DEFINITELY won't work on a more durable and intelligent, although more arrogant, GKG.

Hey... quit it with the generalized statements. I didn't bad mouth Space Godzilla or Destoroyah. I merely stated that Heisei Godzilla is comparable to them in prowess and not really that far below them in the grand scheme of the Heisei series. GKG is a horridly overrated kaiju and that is why I discredit him so much. I don't care if he lived for how long and wiped out what not, but he shows up in his movie and gets killed like a punk. I just don't see him comparable to Hesei Godzilla who ALSO started from the beginning of time as a dinosaur and then mutated into a behemoth and defeated powerful monsters through the duration of six movies consecutively.

Since Heisei King Ghidorah took on Heiesi Godzilla and put up quite a fight, I don't see it that far fetched to believe that he can atleast go toe to toe with GKG and even defeat the smaller dragon by stomping on him or choking him (GKG has no nuclear pulse, no regen, no jetboosters and no arms to escape a predictment like that).

[CheetoKamper]

Since Heisei King Ghidorah took on Heiesi Godzilla and put up quite a fight, I don't see it that far fetched to believe that he can atleast go toe to toe with GKG and even defeat the smaller dragon by stomping on him or choking him (GKG has no nuclear pulse, no regen, no jetboosters and no arms to escape a predictment like that).

Strange that you say that now but you also VERY recently said this in another match......

Also, Heisei King Ghidorah is far below Space Godzilla or Heisei Godzilla in rank of prowess. He doesn't even deserve the title "King of Terror", considering that he is just another Bio Weapon used against humanity.

So which is it is he weak as hell or super powerful?


Anyway I'd like to squash this whole Hesei Ghidorah is weak nonsense right now. When he was under the control of the computers all he really did was fly around spamming his beams for the most part however at one point he flew into Godzilla knocking him over and curb stomping him in a way only he could. Then the computer was destroyed and Ghidorah had to recover from that which he did. He got the upper hand on Godzilla once again and put him in a choke hold until Godzilla used the pulse and blew off his head but here's the kicker Ghidorah was STILL ALIVE and tried to escape and got knocked out of the sky and landed in the ocean where he died yes? NO in the future when they turned him into MKG he was STILL ALIVE, barely but nonetheless alive. To explain why MKG got blown away so fast well Emmi wasn't very competent IMO.

[Infinity]

I don't see any contradiction between either statements. I take it that "putting up quite a fight", means super strong to you.

[Godzilla165]

Yea, this could have happened to any flying kaiju. Megaguris put up one hell of a fight, but it only took one blast to take her down.

[CheetoKamper]

I don't see any contradiction between either statements. I take it that "putting up quite a fight", means super strong to you.

Just trying to get some clarification pal. It's not like it'd be the first time you've contradicted yourself.