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Godzilla Junior vs King Ghidorah vs Leilons

Postby Kiryu2012 » Sun Jun 24, 2012 7:30 pm

Godzilla Junior
http://tohokingdom.com/kaiju/godzilla_junior.htm#jr

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King Ghidorah
http://tohokingdom.com/kaiju/king_ghidorah_showa.htm

vs

Leilons
http://monsterarchives.proboards.com/in ... thread=794

Arena: The lake where Gamera fought Barugon.

Rules: Godzilla Junior is scaled to 100 meters.
KG is scaled to 140 meters.
Leilons is scaled to 120 meters.
No interference.
KO only way to win.

Verdict: I think it would boil down between Junior and Leilons. King Ghidorah may last awhile, but he's not gonna last forever(don't say anything, Kaiju King). Leilons has the advantage in melee, but aside from his shock bubbles, which he only used once, he's not that impressive. Junior will eventually take him out with Atomic Ray spamming.
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Re: Godzilla Junior vs King Ghidorah vs Leilons

Postby Kaiju-King42 » Sun Jun 24, 2012 7:47 pm

Kiryu2012 wrote:(don't say anything, Kaiju King).


How did you know I was going to give this match to him? :)

Anyway, I can see Jr going down first. He's still not fully grown. He's completely inexperienced, seen during his fight with Destoroyah. He was losing most of the fight. He was also hurt pretty bad by the micro oxygen ray. Gravity bolts, while slightly weaker, will be more than enough to put him down once Ghidorah gets his spamming going on. As for Leilons, I haven't yet seen him in action, but a "missile strength" energy ray doesn't sound exceptionally strong, seeing as how Toho kaiju take missile hits all the time. The paralysis bubbles would probably be his best bet. If he can survive long enough to paralyze KG or Jr (perhaps both) I can see him winning. If not, I'm giving it to Ghidorah.

KG: 6/10
Leilons: 3/10
Jr: 1/10
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Re: Godzilla Junior vs King Ghidorah vs Leilons

Postby Kiryu2012 » Sun Jun 24, 2012 7:49 pm

Kaiju-King42 wrote:
Kiryu2012 wrote:(don't say anything, Kaiju King).


How did you know I was going to give this match to him? :)

Anyway, I can see Jr going down first. He's still not fully grown. He's completely inexperienced, seen during his fight with Destoroyah. He was losing most of the fight. He was also hurt pretty bad by the micro oxygen ray. Gravity bolts, while slightly weaker, will be more than enough to put him down once Ghidorah gets his spamming going on. As for Leilons, I haven't yet seen him in action, but a "missile strength" energy ray doesn't sound exceptionally strong, seeing as how Toho kaiju take missile hits all the time. The paralysis bubbles would probably be his best bet. If he can survive long enough to paralyze KG or Jr (perhaps both) I can see him winning. If not, I'm giving it to Ghidorah.

KG: 6/10
Leilons: 3/10
Jr: 1/10

To help ya out, here's Leilons in action.
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Re: Godzilla Junior vs King Ghidorah vs Leilons

Postby Kaiju-King42 » Sun Jun 24, 2012 7:58 pm

Kiryu2012 wrote:To help ya out, here's Leilons in action.



So... does Leilons have a mental problem, or does he just like to dance? :lol:

Yeah, I'm gonna give it to the three headed insane one.
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Re: Godzilla Junior vs King Ghidorah vs Leilons

Postby PopInPicsPresents » Sun Jun 24, 2012 8:00 pm

Godzilla Junior scaled to his daddy's size is pretty much an inexperienced Heisei Godzilla. That being said he doesn't spam his Atomic Ray like his dad, so I'm counting him out. Leilons is going to manhandle Junior and Ghidorah. He was able to push around Ultraman Tiga in his Strong Mode, not an easy feat. He'll probably knock out Junior and have Ghidorah retreat. Once Leilons gets close to Ghidorah, the dragon is gonna get a beating on par with the one Godzilla gave him in vs. Gigan.

Godzilla Junior 1/10
King Ghidorah 1/10
Leilons 8/10
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Re: Godzilla Junior vs King Ghidorah vs Leilons

Postby Kiryu2012 » Sun Jun 24, 2012 8:02 pm

Kaiju-King42 wrote:
Kiryu2012 wrote:To help ya out, here's Leilons in action.



So... does Leilons have a mental problem, or does he just like to dance? :lol:

Nah I think he's Gwangi's lost son.
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Re: Godzilla Junior vs King Ghidorah vs Leilons

Postby Gyaos » Sun Jun 24, 2012 8:07 pm

^ Ugh, enough with this Gwangi crap. Every time its "Gwangi Gwangi Gwangi Gwangi!"

Its a goddamned purple allosaurus.

That aside i was initially gonna give Junior the win, but after seeing Leilons in action, Im gonna have to give it to him.
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Re: Godzilla Junior vs King Ghidorah vs Leilons

Postby PopInPicsPresents » Sun Jun 24, 2012 8:08 pm

Gyaos wrote:^ Ugh, enough with this Gwangi crap. Every time its "Gwangi Gwangi Gwangi Gwangi!"

Its a goddamned purple allosaurus.


That's his gimmick :lol:
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Re: Godzilla Junior vs King Ghidorah vs Leilons

Postby Gyaos » Sun Jun 24, 2012 8:09 pm

PopInPicsPresents wrote:
Gyaos wrote:^ Ugh, enough with this Gwangi crap. Every time its "Gwangi Gwangi Gwangi Gwangi!"

Its a goddamned purple allosaurus.


That's his gimmick :lol:

Well jesus christ its annoying ._.
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Re: Godzilla Junior vs King Ghidorah vs Leilons

Postby Kiryu2012 » Sun Jun 24, 2012 8:11 pm

PopInPicsPresents wrote:
Gyaos wrote:^ Ugh, enough with this Gwangi crap. Every time its "Gwangi Gwangi Gwangi Gwangi!"

Its a goddamned purple allosaurus.


That's his gimmick :lol:

Already planning to switch him out with Heisei King Ghidorah and a liger anyways, so I guess you can say it's one of my gimmicks.
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Re: Godzilla Junior vs King Ghidorah vs Leilons

Postby PopInPicsPresents » Sun Jun 24, 2012 8:12 pm

Can we get back to the match please...

This match is pretty interesting and I'd love to know what other people think, not about your annoying gimmick(s).
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Re: Godzilla Junior vs King Ghidorah vs Leilons

Postby Kiryu2012 » Sun Jun 24, 2012 8:14 pm

PopInPicsPresents wrote:Can we get back to the match please...

Sure. Leilons has the advantage in melee, but his projectiles aren't that powerful. Junior could possibly bring him down with enough Atomic Rays, but already mentioned he's not really much of a spammer like his dad. I'm gonna say that Leilons would win here with his better melee.
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Re: Godzilla Junior vs King Ghidorah vs Leilons

Postby Gyaos » Sun Jun 24, 2012 8:17 pm

I was originally going to give Junior the edge soley because, like PiPP said, is basically Heisei Godzilla minus beam spammage. Personally I think he could deal with Showa KG. Leilons however, outclasses them both based on the quick research I did on him.
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Re: Godzilla Junior vs King Ghidorah vs Leilons

Postby Infinity » Mon Jun 25, 2012 1:42 pm

Leilons is one wierd kaiju. I can't tell how effective his weapons are based on the clip but I would say he is combat capacity is comparable to megalon on steriods. Which is pretty dang powerful. However, Junior has decent regeneration, and the worst Leilons can throw at him will not be enough to put him down and out for good. Unless both KG and Leilons can double team against Junior, Jr will remain alive in this match no matter how what kind of damage his opponents inflict upon him.

That being said, Jr still has the strongest beam in this match. His fight with Destoroyah proved that he can take a beating and dish one out, all the same. That two sickle Destroyah landed on top of him and took out his regeneration while punching a nasty hole on his chest. Yet Jr managed to push Dessy's whole body off him with just his beam.

Verdict:

Junior Godzilla: 7/10
Leilons: 2/10
King Ghidorah: 1/10
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Re: Godzilla Junior vs King Ghidorah vs Leilons

Postby pknight96 » Tue Jun 26, 2012 7:43 pm

Discrediting the King of Terror, ehh? I pick Ghidorah. Why? Well...

1. I GUARANTEE Showa Godzilla out-melees Leilons, and could push around Strong Mode Tiga. Ghidorah can take Showa Goji melee all day.

2. Jr. barely uses that beam of death he's got, so the once or twice usage won't take out either Leilons or Ghidorah.

3. Leilons's ranged attacks are terrible. He has to be close to use one, and the other is "missle strength". Hahaha, FAIL.

4. As stated before, Ghidorah's Gravity Bolts may not be strong on their own, but when three heads spam them, good luck. Especially while Ghidorah's flying.

5. Oh, yeah, Ghidorah flies. How'd I forget that?

6. Regeneration, even at Heisei Goji levels, doesn't work fast enough to cover all the Gravity Bolts.

7. Jr. can't melee for s**t against the other two, making him just a body in this fight.

The Showa King of Terror definitely isn't the strongest, but he isn't the weakest, either.

Ghidorah 6/10
Leilons 3/10
Junior 1/10
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Re: Godzilla Junior vs King Ghidorah vs Leilons

Postby Infinity » Tue Jun 26, 2012 9:46 pm

1. I GUARANTEE Showa Godzilla out-melees Leilons, and could push around Strong Mode Tiga. Ghidorah can take Showa Goji melee all day.

If you mean having the capability to soak alot of punishment, than yes, I will give that to King Ghidorah. No one in the entire series has as much "health" as Showa KG. He can take a punishment. However, don't confuse that with dishing out any. Showa KG just doesn't have any impressive showings on that.

2. Jr. barely uses that beam of death he's got, so the once or twice usage won't take out either Leilons or Ghidorah.


Jr barely used it because he finished off his opponent (Destoroyah) right on the spot.

4. As stated before, Ghidorah's Gravity Bolts may not be strong on their own, but when three heads spam them, good luck. Especially while Ghidorah's flying.


Ghidorah barely uses that beam of death he's got, so the once or twice usage won't take out either Leilons or Jr.

5. Oh, yeah, Ghidorah flies. How'd I forget that?


Like thats gonna help against two kaiju who can shoot him down from the sky.

6. Regeneration, even at Heisei Goji levels, doesn't work fast enough to cover all the Gravity Bolts.


Dude, those beams couldn't put down mothra larvea even when striking her squarely TWICE. Those beams wouldn't mean anything to a Heisei Goji level regeneration. The most they will do is floor either opponent down, which doesn't really work too well given how powerful these two are in comparison to the three headed dragon.

7. Jr. can't melee for s**t against the other two, making him just a body in this fight.


I'm sure Showa KG can't do any better than him either.
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Re: Godzilla Junior vs King Ghidorah vs Leilons

Postby pknight96 » Wed Jun 27, 2012 5:18 am

1. The fact that it takes multiple opponents to beat Ghidorah is enough for me. I sincerely doubt Jr and Leilons would double-team Ghidorah. You forget that Ghidorah beat Zone Fighter, a slightly weaker Ultraman-like character? Granted, Zone beat Ghidorah the second time around, but did Leilons beat Tiga?

2. Yes, congratulations, Jr can take down Destroyah's earliest stage with his beam, while Dessy was literally on top of his face.

4. Barely uses his beams? You mean the ones he spits almost all the time? Me thinks you thinking Heisei Ghidorah.

5. Correction: Leilons's energy attacks suck, and Jr. only uses his when his foe is on top of his face.

6. Destroyah's oxygen destroyer beams did a number on Jr, and I'm pretty sure Ghidorah's Gravity Beams are around the same level of power. And, FYI, Mothra Larvaes are near-impossible to kill. Godzilla couldn't do it with his ray, either.

7. I'll give you that, yes, Ghidorah can't melee well. But neither can Jr, and I'm sure Leilons can't kill them both with just his melee.
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Re: Godzilla Junior vs King Ghidorah vs Leilons

Postby PopInPicsPresents » Wed Jun 27, 2012 6:29 am

1. The fact that it takes multiple opponents to beat Ghidorah is enough for me. I sincerely doubt Jr and Leilons would double-team Ghidorah. You forget that Ghidorah beat Zone Fighter, a slightly weaker Ultraman-like character? Granted, Zone beat Ghidorah the second time around, but did Leilons beat Tiga?


Okay, you know why it took multiple kaiju to beat Showa Ghidorah? because it fled battle EVERY TIME things started to go south for it. The only reason it died in DAM was because it was under alien control. If Ghidorah wasn't under alien control he would have fled long before the battles finale. And Ultraman Tiga is MUCH more powerful then Zone Fighter. Ultramen are rarely ever beaten, a kaiju able to push Tiga around and put him on his knees with his beam is pretty powerful and could most likely handle Showa Ghidorah or Godzilla Junior.

5. Correction: Leilons's energy attacks suck, and Jr. only uses his when his foe is on top of his face.

And where do we get the assumption that Leilons energy beams suck? His bubbles paralyze whatever they touch and his energy wave was enough to bring Tiga to his knees. It has to be pretty potent to do that.

6. Destroyah's oxygen destroyer beams did a number on Jr, and I'm pretty sure Ghidorah's Gravity Beams are around the same level of power. And, FYI, Mothra Larvaes are near-impossible to kill. Godzilla couldn't do it with his ray, either.


I really doubt the Micro Oxygen Ray and the Gravity Beams are in the same league of power, and the early Showa Godzilla's beam sucked. I don't even think it hit the Mothra larvae.

7. I'll give you that, yes, Ghidorah can't melee well. But neither can Jr, and I'm sure Leilons can't kill them both with just his melee.


He won't have too. Showa Ghidorah will in retreat leaving the inexperienced Godzilla Junior to fight Leilons alone. Junior will probably get in a few good hits but Leilons would probably knock him out. And FYI, in order to win an FM you don't have to kill your opponent, only incapacitate them.
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Re: Godzilla Junior vs King Ghidorah vs Leilons

Postby pknight96 » Wed Jun 27, 2012 6:46 am

Oh. I was under the assumption they had to kill their opponent. In that case, yeah, Leilons wins this. Great fighter, just not a great killer.
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Re: Godzilla Junior vs King Ghidorah vs Leilons

Postby Infinity » Wed Jun 27, 2012 10:33 am

1. The fact that it takes multiple opponents to beat Ghidorah is enough for me. I sincerely doubt Jr and Leilons would double-team Ghidorah. You forget that Ghidorah beat Zone Fighter, a slightly weaker Ultraman-like character? Granted, Zone beat Ghidorah the second time around, but did Leilons beat Tiga?


Hows about focusing on the fact that ghidorah never beat anything even on one on one. He needed Gigan's help to stop Godzilla from jumping on to him and pummeling him to death. The last time I checked ZF, Ghidorah got his ass whooped worse than he did in GvsGigan. That was actually painful to watch, and I felt bad for Ghidorah here more so than I did in DAM.

2. Yes, congratulations, Jr can take down Destroyah's earliest stage with his beam, while Dessy was literally on top of his face.


earliest stage? That where the second last stage of Destoroyah. That thing can give Battra and Mothra a run for their money, given its capability to morph back and fourth in flight and ravaging ground unit.

and then your logic of size proportionality...

That would be like if I pit Showa King Ghidorah against giants like Giga Berserker, Angel Zogu or Gatanozoa and claim that Showa King ghidorah is a wimp because he can only fight monsters smaller than him and not anything even an inch bigger.

4. Barely uses his beams? You mean the ones he spits almost all the time? Me thinks you thinking Heisei Ghidorah.


Whatever.. Even if he spammed his beams, they would still be grossly ineffective. You won't see me making this complaint with GMK Ghidorah who I feel had the best of the Gravity beams (Good aim, effective spamming and overall dangerous beams ).

5. Correction: Leilons's energy attacks suck, and Jr. only uses his when his foe is on top of his face.


What movie are you watching? Junior took down Destoroyah from flight using that beam.

6. Destroyah's oxygen destroyer beams did a number on Jr, and I'm pretty sure Ghidorah's Gravity Beams are around the same level of power. And, FYI, Mothra Larvaes are near-impossible to kill. Godzilla couldn't do it with his ray, either.


What!?

First of all, they didn't do a number on Jr. Jr was taken down because a building fell on top of him. Second, Jr has good regeneration anyway. Third, Ghidorah's beams are no where near the power of the oxygen destroyer. How can a beam that couldn't even torch Showa Godzilla's crotch, be equal to a beam that can knock down Heisei Godzilla with each volley.
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