African Lion vs Bengal Tiger

[Godzilla165]

Animals don't 'train'. They use instinct.

When I said train. Notice the quotation marks around it, that means I wasn't being serious. I know animals use instinct, I'm not a dumbass, I was just saying that tigers are more active than male lions. They move alot more, which gives them excersise... That's what I meant by that they "train".

[Prime]

Again, male lion's pretty much can do everyting on there own, the reason's why the media show's lion's sleeping more often in the day, is because of africa's heat, africa has pretty much the hotest temputure's on earth. So alot of energy is conserved threw sleeping in the day, which they usually hunt at night...make sense? While the tiger's habitat's are in swampy land's, marsh-pit's, river's, lagoon's an dense jungle's so they usually are cooled down by the humidity, a lion has been proven threw scientific study's to have more stamina, an ergo shut's the window of tiger's not being able to maintain the fight...that's pretty much schaller fact's.
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Ergo recently a tiger was transported to John varty's Tiger Canyon, an it died from heat exaughstion alone, so lion's are more prone in that area. The heat also strip's away body fat, in the book the mammal's of the soviet, a tiger had 30% body fat, an a imported lion had only 13%, so again stamina is the main issue with tiger's, if the tiger cant kill the lion quickly the lion will have the pit-bull syndrome of gameness an stamina, ergo a lion can afford to be agressive to add on to his mane which usually buy's him time, hence one good hold on the tiger's throat an it should be over, as the gir video showed the tiger had over 7 attempt's an then gassed out, before even doing any harm.
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But here's another account of a african lion killing a bengal tiger...
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lion kills male tiger Logansport Press, November 15., 1934
http://i1119.photobucket.com/albums/k62 ... count2.jpg
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Hope it dosent get erased, for it's purley on topic an educational...^_^

[Godzilla165]

Interesting . So who would you pick as the victor?

[Prime]

Mwh ha ha, I cant answer that, I would be implmenting Bia'sness, I like both to a tee, but they both would have a leverage in term's of wild, so I dont know, but selectively wise, it still would be hard to call, because..... lol I dont know why...XD XD I would still get the feeling I'm Bia's to myself. XD XD
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But with no data on hand, I stick with 50/50....with data the lion simply because the data shut's me up, I know a fair amount of account's the tiger won, but I know more the lion won, I have around 40 account's the tiger won but I have around 100 the lion won, but even so, it would be 50/50 in my eye's because there is to many variable's to consider. As I am only posting for the lion right now....simply because the score card of the voting I presume is getting there information from wiki...which had every levearge an good story for the tiger...but it completely degraded the lion, I mean completely....look at the weight's that person gave, that's a 300 pound advantage, that's baloney here's one you'll like...
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826 pound lion named simba
http://i1017.photobucket.com/albums/af2 ... 1306200659
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Sorry I cant post everything I have one time, it will get erased as well. But there's at-least 20 I have on hand of lion's flying to the 900 pound's an up, but like I said I'll post them one at a time....hopefully this one dosent get erased, for it's purley on topic...but anyway's what's up with that Godzilla drawing of the new movie? Is that real or what?

[Godzilla165]

I think its just fanart, but don't quote me on that .

[Prime]

Sorry I cannot quote you on that....again the data shut's me up...here a link of that lion's Bio,
http://junglephotos.com/africa/afanimal ... hist.shtml

[Godzilla165]

You're pretty smart man. Who knows... You could become one of the smartest people on here before long.

[Prime]

Nah, I'm relative. I only found my data because a certain jumbo site was degrading the lion and had every book, article, story google could afford to present, an he used it in a shaddy way, by degrading the lion, this site was 10x worse than wiki, an what made it funny was 80% of the site was repeated cleverly by scattering the information around in his list. by swapping head line's an date's to change the appearnce of some same ocaiision's out of 367, opinion's to account's, he only had 30...XD I exploited him an now his site is frozen for some magical reason...maybe it's because in his guess book an bloged I pointed everysingle one of them out with the proof of how he chaneged them....you have to be a complete fool to have posted the fake account next to the real one, he made it easy for me, if he hadent they kinda would have looked legit.
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But that's also illgal, an you can be sued up to a few hundred grand's for taking a copy writed material of a company's logo an alter is an edit it without out there consent...XD so that's why I present thing's as is...I wouldent wanna degrade anything anyway.
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But I'll stay on topic before this post get's erased, so I'll contribute to the thread's topic...
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But Here's a good opinion from the hall of famer's Circus performer's of all time, that worked with every type of predator out there an had the world's biggest mix act of lion's an tigers working with them for a little over 40 year's opinion by Mr Clyde Beatty...
http://i277.photobucket.com/albums/kk45 ... oks-83.jpg
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I have the article of his past life in his early carrier stating he lost 25 tiger's an not one lion in the conflict's of them fighting...that say's alot...an another question was asked again near the ending of his carrer, an he said he had around 50 tiger's killed threw out 40 year's by his lion's an only 4 lion's alltogether were killed by his tiger's...that is pretty impressive resume for the lion, not much circus people had mix act's that was like the golden rule, never mix lion's an tiger's in the same act....an only a very few I mean a very few other's had mixed them an they also gave hint's an opinion's that the lion dominate's the steel cage when confronting tiger's, but again they had about 4 lion's an four tiger's in the same act....Mr.Clyde beatty was a superstar an pioneer who had over 40 lion's an tiger's in the same cage...I can get you a few of his photo's if you like? But that would make sense that so much got at each other per performance, what can you really do if 2 giant monster's have a go at each other???
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Pretty much, sit down an sing for Mothrah or King See-saw XD XD XD

[SoleMan]

I think an African Lion is a bit bigger, no? I might be mistaken, but it just seems like if it hits the tiger once, the fight's over, so the question is can the Tiger flawlessly take down the lion? I don't know.

Let me say this: Tarzan fought and Killed Lions on a regular basis, eventually mastering the craft with ease. I don't recall him ever fighting a Tiger, or at least in the first seven books or so.

[Prime]

Well the Dimension's an mass of the lion is bigger, but the tiger can more often maintain being heavy, the same theory is due to it's humidity an his habitat's tempature, if a tiger was raised in africa he'd have less body fat, due to the temputure's of above 110 degree's sometime's, that's why the biggest Siberian out weigh's the biggest Bengal's, because they need more body fat to survive harsh winter blizzard's...muscle would be less needed the same reason why most artic animal's form blubber it's a better heat preserver than muscle... but averagely a Bengal is bigger than the Siberian...averagely...not indivdually. It's like Yao ming, the average chinese is short but yao hold's the record over a japanese tall man.
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It would depend, tiger's use 2 paw's to swipe...but by doing so they must focus on balancing which there body's physiology is not made to do like human's ape's an bear's, which fatigue's the tiger more an decrease's it's out-put power focusing on balancing which they usually throw very poor accurate strike's in a panic form...while lion's fight in a 3 point stance like a foot-ball player, aiding there bigger, taller, stronger an broader shoulder's that funnel's the intire strike into a Mike tyson left hook formailty, which usually is alot easyer to home in on there target...like this..
The mane dosent weigh that much, it’s just very thick an dense hair an by the size of the tiger, his mass look’s even the same size of the lion’s mane, concluding the tiger is hevier an the lion still outpower’s him by bashing him with the usual haymaker’s lion’s throw, in the same instance the tiger threw first, yet the lion’s more powerful strike’s goes right threw the tiger’s attempt for a double strike which they usually use to grab , but the lion strike’s with such percsion an power he bashes the tiger so hard, he completely fliped the tiger on his back a meter away…
http://i277.photobucket.com/albums/kk45 ... tput_3.gif

[PopInPicsPresents]

Let me say this: Tarzan fought and Killed Lions on a regular basis, eventually mastering the craft with ease. I don't recall him ever fighting a Tiger, or at least in the first seven books or so.

Tarzan also talked to apes and monkeys...

[Prime]

lol Speaking of Tarzan an wiki of saying lion's can only get to 550...here's a abstract's documentation of a certain year's actor for Tarzan, being attacked by a 806 pound lion...
http://www.tzproductions.com/index.php/history
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Ive also seen another of this artical of that incident at Circus hitory.com, where they showed the 806 pound lion that attcked him, big bastard I think his name was Brutus. I'll try an find the article again when I have time.

[wataru]

Let me say this: Tarzan fought and Killed Lions on a regular basis, eventually mastering the craft with ease. I don't recall him ever fighting a Tiger, or at least in the first seven books or so.

Tarzan is fictional...

Do you believe Davey Crockett killed him a bear when he was only 3?

[SoleMan]

I mean Tarzan also fought and conquered Dinosaurs (Yes, in the original books) so I didn't put much weight behind it, it was just a joke.

I don't know; I like Tiger's better, they just appeal more to me, but like I said, a Tiger's gotta be perfect to pull this off...though, any animal is usually perfect in it's hunting, or else it'll die.

[Eunectes]

Basically how I see it would go off:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D_PHs-kbypo
They don't call them King for no reason.

[PopInPicsPresents]

Basically how I see it would go off:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D_PHs-kbypo
They don't call them King for no reason.

I'm sorry but Animal Face-Off is total bull for the most part. How exactly does the Lion's main protect it from a Tiger's bite to the throat?

Both animals are just about equal with the Tiger being bigger. The match would probably go down like an average Lion-to-Lion brawl for control of a pride, giving the bigger more powerful Tiger the advantage.

[Eunectes]

Basically how I see it would go off:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D_PHs-kbypo
They don't call them King for no reason.

I'm sorry but Animal Face-Off is total bull for the most part. How exactly does the Lion's main protect it from a Tiger's bite to the throat?

Both animals are just about equal with the Tiger being bigger. The match would probably go down like an average Lion-to-Lion brawl for control of a pride, giving the bigger more powerful Tiger the advantage.

Yes but the Lion has trained for fights like this ever since their existence. Obviously a inexperienced fighter who just hunts would know how to beat a fighter with experience eh?

[PopInPicsPresents]

Yes but the Lion has trained for fights like this ever since their existence. Obviously a inexperienced fighter who just hunts would know how to beat a fighter with experience eh?

Your most makes no sense.

[Prime]

To: PopinPic's
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There, are many account's I can show you that a lion's mane has protected the attempt's of a tiger, not once or twice, but practically every time they fought, an I have at-least 10 clean time's the mane came in beatifually against neck an head area bite's, if I could post them all at once I would, but I think there might be a limit to how much I can post, so I'll post 3 at a time an see if it's allowed...
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70% of swipe or bite is protected by the mane, as you can see the mane protect’s bite’s that can usually add up on a tiger, yet it has no effect on the lion in terms the lion can completely focus what he is doing which is draging around and mauling the tiger, which in the big cat fight world, every bite count’s…
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Lion’s mane save’s him from tiger’s throat attempt, an also aidded the tiger to release due to breaking his breathing pattern.
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The lion also is protected around the neck by the heavy mane, which is an advantage. There is one instance I remember where a full grown lion and tiger engaged in combat, by unforeseen chance of course. It was when the John O’ Brien Show had its winter quarters in Philadelphia and I was connected with it. “A lion and a tiger were in a compartment cage, with a partition between. In some manner this partition was battered down in the night and the two big felloes got together. They had probably been issuing challenges to each other and promising what they would do to one another if the chance came. When morning arrived we found the two in the lion’s cage, the tiger dead and the lion all chew and clawed up, but still full of fight.”
~George Conklln, “Adventures With a Circus”
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[SoleMan]

Basically how I see it would go off:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D_PHs-kbypo
They don't call them King for no reason.

I'm sorry but Animal Face-Off is total bull for the most part. How exactly does the Lion's main protect it from a Tiger's bite to the throat?

Both animals are just about equal with the Tiger being bigger. The match would probably go down like an average Lion-to-Lion brawl for control of a pride, giving the bigger more powerful Tiger the advantage.

That's a pretty thick beard he's got there, I doubt even a Tiger could penetrate on the first try, probably come out with a mouth full of fur that would be its downfall. One wrong move like that, and the Tiger's through.