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Re: Marvel vs. Capcom 3/Ultimate Marvel vs. Capcom 3

Postby KaijuSinCritic » Sat Mar 10, 2012 1:37 pm

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Hellspawn28 wrote: I really don't care for the whole mission mode thing that they did for single player and they can always give us more things other then a story mode.


Like what? All that could really be added is some sort of tournament/team battle mode. UMvC3 already has Arcade, Training, Mission, Heroes and Heralds mode, and the online lobby system. Like I said, this is a fighting game. There isn't much else you can add.

Mission mode is amazing, I don't see how anyone couldn't like it. It teaches you how to play the characters.

KaijuSinCritic wrote: Releasing so many Version of SF4 and MvsC3


This is not a new phenomenon. Capcom has been doing stuff like this since 1991, starting with Street Fighter 2.

http://www.eventhubs.com/news/2012/feb/ ... ras-wrath/


Except with SF2 and SF3, those are actually good games, SF4 and MvsC3 are not

MvsC2 had alot more characters too

God help us when they do this to the Resident Evil games (wait, they already DID!)
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Re: Marvel vs. Capcom 3/Ultimate Marvel vs. Capcom 3

Postby Tormentor » Sat Mar 10, 2012 1:37 pm

I know their from Asura's Wrath, which was why I said 'Dlc for the character's game', I think I should have been more clear again lol
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Re: Marvel vs. Capcom 3/Ultimate Marvel vs. Capcom 3

Postby Shazam14 » Sat Mar 10, 2012 1:56 pm

I honestly liked SF4 more than SF2 and I like UMvC3 waaaay more than MvC2.
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Re: Marvel vs. Capcom 3/Ultimate Marvel vs. Capcom 3

Postby KaijuSinCritic » Sat Mar 10, 2012 1:58 pm

Shazam14 wrote:I honestly liked SF4 more than SF2 and I like UMvC3 waaaay more than MvC2.

How old are you?
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Re: Marvel vs. Capcom 3/Ultimate Marvel vs. Capcom 3

Postby Sydney Aradi » Sat Mar 10, 2012 2:11 pm

While I like all the Capcom crossover fighting games & their Street Fighter games (especially SF IV) but my personal favorite of the bunch is Street Fighter III: Third Strike. It had plenty of characters for its time, great music & excellent graphics. I do admit that the AI can be tough at times but I like fighting games that can be tough & be playable at the same time
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Re: Marvel vs. Capcom 3/Ultimate Marvel vs. Capcom 3

Postby Goji » Sat Mar 10, 2012 2:18 pm

Tormentor wrote:I know their from Asura's Wrath, which was why I said 'Dlc for the character's game', I think I should have been more clear again lol


No shit, which is why I said "(like you mentioned)". It still doesn't explain why you brought up "SF V" out of nowhere.

KaijuSinCritic wrote:
Except with SF2 and SF3, those are actually good games, SF4 and MvsC3 are not.


While I agree with SF II & III being better than IV, that's beyond the point. The games are popular, so naturally, Capcom keeps updating them.

I personally don't like SF IV at all, don't like UMvC3 all that much better, but obviously a whole hell of a lot of other people do.

MvsC2 had alot more characters too


That's because Capcom had 6 years of Marvel sprites to worth with (which was a lot of characters). UMvC3 had 50 characters when you include Jill and Shuma. That's only 6 less, and 50 is still a massive roster, so no..it didn't have "a lot more" characters.
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Re: Marvel vs. Capcom 3/Ultimate Marvel vs. Capcom 3

Postby Hellspawn28 » Sat Mar 10, 2012 2:20 pm

Goji wrote:Like what? All that could really be added is some sort of tournament/team battle mode. UMvC3 already has Arcade, Training, Mission, Heroes and Heralds mode, and the online lobby system. Like I said, this is a fighting game. There isn't much else you can add.

Mission mode is amazing, I don't see how anyone couldn't like it. It teaches you how to play the characters.


They could also add some type of adventure similar to the adventure mode in Melee. I can never get into Mission mode since it tells you to do moves in a way that I can never understand. Why not just list down X or A instead of pictures of a fist since a casual player is not going to know what means? I know that you are a hardcore fan but what about the casual players as well?
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Re: Marvel vs. Capcom 3/Ultimate Marvel vs. Capcom 3

Postby Shazam14 » Sat Mar 10, 2012 2:20 pm

KaijuSinCritic wrote:
Shazam14 wrote:I honestly liked SF4 more than SF2 and I like UMvC3 waaaay more than MvC2.

How old are you?


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Re: Marvel vs. Capcom 3/Ultimate Marvel vs. Capcom 3

Postby KaijuSinCritic » Sat Mar 10, 2012 2:22 pm

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KaijuSinCritic wrote:
Shazam14 wrote:I honestly liked SF4 more than SF2 and I like UMvC3 waaaay more than MvC2.

How old are you?


19. Why?

*Facepalm*

God damn kids
You must like them more cause of the "Graphics", there is no way you like them for anything else sir
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Re: Marvel vs. Capcom 3/Ultimate Marvel vs. Capcom 3

Postby Shazam14 » Sat Mar 10, 2012 2:24 pm

Nope. I like SF4 because it's just better than SF2 imho. UMvC3 has more viable characters than MvC2.
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Re: Marvel vs. Capcom 3/Ultimate Marvel vs. Capcom 3

Postby KaijuSinCritic » Sat Mar 10, 2012 2:26 pm

Shazam14 wrote:Nope. I like SF4 because it's just better than SF2 imho. UMvC3 has more viable characters than MvC2.

God help me, you are probably gonna be a problem for me *shivers*
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Re: Marvel vs. Capcom 3/Ultimate Marvel vs. Capcom 3

Postby Shazam14 » Sat Mar 10, 2012 2:28 pm

KaijuSinCritic wrote:
Shazam14 wrote:Nope. I like SF4 because it's just better than SF2 imho. UMvC3 has more viable characters than MvC2.

God help me, you are probably gonna be a problem for me *shivers*


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Re: Marvel vs. Capcom 3/Ultimate Marvel vs. Capcom 3

Postby KaijuSinCritic » Sat Mar 10, 2012 2:30 pm

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KaijuSinCritic wrote:
Shazam14 wrote:Nope. I like SF4 because it's just better than SF2 imho. UMvC3 has more viable characters than MvC2.

God help me, you are probably gonna be a problem for me *shivers*


:freak: Let's hope not.


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Re: Marvel vs. Capcom 3/Ultimate Marvel vs. Capcom 3

Postby Shazam14 » Sat Mar 10, 2012 2:33 pm

Yeah.. with an awkward question.
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Re: Marvel vs. Capcom 3/Ultimate Marvel vs. Capcom 3

Postby Goji » Sat Mar 10, 2012 2:34 pm

Hellspawn28 wrote:
They could also add some type of adventure similar to the adventure mode in Melee. I can never get into Mission mode since it tells you to do moves in a way that I can never understand. Why not just list down X or A instead of pictures of a fist since a casual player is not going to know what means? I know that you are a hardcore fan but what about the casual players as well?


Why would they do that? This isn't Smash Bros. Like I said, none of Capcom's Marvel games (much less any of their crossover games) have had "adventure" or "story" modes. I don't see why MvC3 would be any different.

Mission mode tells you how to do everything. You need to access the command list, and it tells you how to do what's asked. It's very simple.

KaijuSinCritic, I know where you're coming from, but the problem is, not everyone realizes how much more deep old Capcom fighters were (SF III:3rd Strike, MvC2, CvS2, SF 2:Turbo, SF Alpha series, any Darkstalkers games, etc.), and they don't really care. I personally think SF IV has nice presentation, but the gameplay is a steaming pile of shit, and many "top" players from MD./VA. feel the same way, so it's not like we're a small minority..but the thing is, SF IV was a huge hit, so Capcom feels they're doing things right by making these new fighters easier to get into. The issue is these new games lack the depth seen in those older games and that's why people like us, are frustrated.

Since 2009, I've seen so many people start playing SF for the first time in years, and claim "this is the best Street Fighter yet!", and I can't help but just bite my lip/facepalm when it happens. Almost all of these players never played the older games on a tournament level, so to them, they couldn't care less about "depth". As long as the game is fun, that's all they care about. Unfortunately, the people at Capcom know this, so we get garbage like Street Fighter X Tekken, which is some bizarre amalgam of SF IV, and SF EX 3, with random mechanics from old crossover titles thrown into the mix. They also added the gem system, as well as stupid "auto combos" for people who suck ass, and just "wanna have fun". Capcom lets new players be lazy, by basically telling them "You don't have to learn this game properly, we'll hold your hand so you don't have to!"

It's really sad to see, and as far as I'm concerned, Capcom's glory days ended with CvS2 back in 2001. Everything we've been spoon fed since then have been fighting games with high marketability (The Marvel Vs. brand, and Street Fighter series in general), but not much in terms of actual depth.
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Re: Marvel vs. Capcom 3/Ultimate Marvel vs. Capcom 3

Postby KaijuSinCritic » Sat Mar 10, 2012 2:37 pm

Goji wrote:
Hellspawn28 wrote:
They could also add some type of adventure similar to the adventure mode in Melee. I can never get into Mission mode since it tells you to do moves in a way that I can never understand. Why not just list down X or A instead of pictures of a fist since a casual player is not going to know what means? I know that you are a hardcore fan but what about the casual players as well?


Why would they do that? This isn't Smash Bros. Like I said, none of Capcom's Marvel games (much less any of their crossover games) have had "adventure" or "story" modes. I don't see why MvC3 would be any different.

Mission mode tells you how to do everything. You need to access the command list, and it tells you how to do what's asked. It's very simple.

KaijuSinCritic, I know where you're coming from, but the problem is, not everyone realizes how much more deep old Capcom fighters were (SF III:3rd Strike, MvC2, CvS2, SF 2:Turbo, SF Alpha series, any Darkstalkers games, etc.), and they don't really care. I personally think SF IV has nice presentation, but the gameplay is a steaming pile of shit, and many "top" players from MD./VA. feel the same way, so it's not like we're a small minority..but the thing is, SF IV was a huge hit, so Capcom feels they're doing things right by making these new fighters easier to get into. The issue is these new games lack the depth seen in those older games and that's why people like us, are frustrated.

Since 2009, I've seen so many people start playing SF for the first time in years, and claim "this is the best Street Fighter yet!", and I can't help but just bite my lip/facepalm when it happens. Almost all of these players never played the older games on a tournament level, so to them, they couldn't care less about "depth". As long as the game is fun, that's all they care about. Unfortunately, the people at Capcom know this, so we get garbage like Street Fighter X Tekken, which is some bizarre amalgam of SF IV, and SF EX 3, with random mechanics from old crossover titles thrown into the mix. They also added the gem system, as well as stupid "auto combos" for people who suck ass, and just "wanna have fun". Capcom lets new players be lazy, by basically telling them "You don't have to learn this game properly, we'll hold your hand so you don't have to!"

It's really sad to see, and as far as I'm concerned, Capcom's glory days ended with CvS2 back in 2001. Everything we've been spoon fed since then have been fighting games with high marketability (The Marvel Vs. brand, and Street Fighter series in general), but not much in terms of actual depth.


Sometimes I wish I had a time machine so I could Facepalm Capcom from doing anymore damage, god help us when Street Fighter 4: Ultra Mega X Turbo 9000 Beta HD Edition comes out @_@
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Re: Marvel vs. Capcom 3/Ultimate Marvel vs. Capcom 3

Postby Shazam14 » Sat Mar 10, 2012 2:49 pm

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Re: Marvel vs. Capcom 3/Ultimate Marvel vs. Capcom 3

Postby Hellspawn28 » Sat Mar 10, 2012 2:55 pm

KaijuSinCritic wrote:*Facepalm*

God damn kids
You must like them more cause of the "Graphics", there is no way you like them for anything else sir


Odd that you call him a kid if he is in the same age group as you? I don't see why they can't make a game that can be fun for both tournament level players and casual fighter players as well? I'm a casual fighter fan and I don't go to tournaments, if people want to play games that are similar to the older games then just play the other games? I feel the same with shooters now these days since I still play Doom, Serious Sam and Duke Nukem 3D over newer shooters like Call of Duty.
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Re: Marvel vs. Capcom 3/Ultimate Marvel vs. Capcom 3

Postby KaijuSinCritic » Sat Mar 10, 2012 2:57 pm

Hellspawn28 wrote:
KaijuSinCritic wrote:*Facepalm*

God damn kids
You must like them more cause of the "Graphics", there is no way you like them for anything else sir


Odd that you call him a kid if he is in the same age group as you? I don't see why they can't make a game that can be fun for both tournament level players and casual fighter players as well? I'm a casual fighter fan and I don't go to tournaments, if people want to play games that are similar to the older games then just play the other games? I feel the same with shooters now these days since I still play Doom, Serious Sam and Duke Nukem 3D over newer shooters like Call of Duty.

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Re: Marvel vs. Capcom 3/Ultimate Marvel vs. Capcom 3

Postby Shazam14 » Sat Mar 10, 2012 3:07 pm

Yeah, I'm no tournament player, so I didn't like MvC2 and I like SF4 more than SF2. But I do think SF3 is the best out of the Street Fighters and adore CvS2. Of course, I'm liking SFxT too, but the easy combo thing is silly.

So yeah.. damn old farts calling people 'kids'!
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