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Re: Pokemon Game Discussion 2.0

Postby Giratina93 » Sat Aug 10, 2019 10:42 pm

Really, it's milking nostalgia. Gen 4 tried to evolve older pokemon, but... the fanbase reacted REALLY badly to the gen 1 evos, especially the likes of Electivire and Magmortar. Then they tried Mega Evos to bring up older mons people liked, but... Mega Evos were broken as hell and centralized VGC, lol. The regional forms are the best received attempts at updating older mons to make them more viable in VGC/ingame, and because they tend to be fan favorites and don't replace or invalidate the original forms, it's easy to see why GF is more than happy to make them and count them as new pokemon.

Sorry, these ARE the new pokemon you're getting, while still milking that sweet nostalgia nectar. That's just how it is.
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Re: Pokemon Game Discussion 2.0

Postby gottatalktothefake » Sun Aug 11, 2019 9:50 am

Giratina93 wrote:Really, it's milking nostalgia. Gen 4 tried to evolve older pokemon, but... the fanbase reacted REALLY badly to the gen 1 evos, especially the likes of Electivire and Magmortar. Then they tried Mega Evos to bring up older mons people liked, but... Mega Evos were broken as hell and centralized VGC, lol. The regional forms are the best received attempts at updating older mons to make them more viable in VGC/ingame, and because they tend to be fan favorites and don't replace or invalidate the original forms, it's easy to see why GF is more than happy to make them and count them as new pokemon.

Sorry, these ARE the new pokemon you're getting, while still milking that sweet nostalgia nectar. That's just how it is.

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Oh well. Guess I won't see the movie for myself and form my own opinion, I've basically already seen it in my mind from what I've read online and I know a lame duck when I see one. Time to whip out the 'ol 12 gauge

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Re: Pokemon Game Discussion 2.0

Postby Fish Cakes » Sun Aug 11, 2019 8:32 pm

I hate Obstagoon so much. Anthropomorphic animal, invalidates the original Zigzagoon and Linoone since they don't evolve, blatant pop culture reference. The latest batch of information made my eyes vomit between the term "Hangry Form", the evil team, the rivals, and the regional forms.
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Re: Pokemon Game Discussion 2.0

Postby UltimateDitto » Sun Aug 11, 2019 10:37 pm

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Re: Pokemon Game Discussion 2.0

Postby LSD Jellyfish » Mon Aug 12, 2019 1:12 am

Fish Cakes wrote:I hate Obstagoon so much. Anthropomorphic animal, invalidates the original Zigzagoon and Linoone since they don't evolve, blatant pop culture reference. The latest batch of information made my eyes vomit between the term "Hangry Form", the evil team, the rivals, and the regional forms.

Nah Obstagoon is awesome. I’ve seen the “It invalidates the original linoone” so much, but no ever used Linoone :)
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Re: Pokemon Game Discussion 2.0

Postby Godzillian » Mon Aug 12, 2019 6:40 am

Fish Cakes wrote:I hate Obstagoon so much. Anthropomorphic animal, invalidates the original Zigzagoon and Linoone since they don't evolve, blatant pop culture reference.

If it makes a worthless pokemon that is basically just HM slave fodder a little more useful, I'm glad they gaveus the kiss Zig line
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Re: Pokemon Game Discussion 2.0

Postby Fish Cakes » Mon Aug 12, 2019 11:07 am

Let me rephrase: I wish there was a Hoenn Obstagoon that didn't look so bad. I like raccoons, Zigzagoon and Linoone are my fav regional vermin. :c
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Re: Pokemon Game Discussion 2.0

Postby Stump Feet » Mon Aug 12, 2019 11:20 am

skreeonking Ratticate for the win :lol:

I learned to hate Zigzagoon in ORAS when that’s all I could get from WT.
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Re: Pokemon Game Discussion 2.0

Postby gottatalktothefake » Mon Aug 12, 2019 12:00 pm

Obstagoon is literally a skreeonking fursuit.

No thank you.
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Oh well. Guess I won't see the movie for myself and form my own opinion, I've basically already seen it in my mind from what I've read online and I know a lame duck when I see one. Time to whip out the 'ol 12 gauge

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Re: Pokemon Game Discussion 2.0

Postby Smuggers » Mon Aug 12, 2019 1:33 pm

I liked the zigzag and straight line gimmick of the previous two forms, Obstagoon is basically just "What if Gene Simmons was Lycanroc lol" right down to its gimmick being that it goads its opponents into attacking it. Evolutions for old Pokemon are good but I think this thing is pretty weak visually and conceptually.

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Re: Pokemon Game Discussion 2.0

Postby LSD Jellyfish » Mon Aug 12, 2019 4:48 pm

gottatalktothefake wrote:Obstagoon is literally a skreeonking fursuit.

No thank you.

I get the complaints about the Gene Simmons thing (though a lot of people ignore that a lot of older Pokémon are based off of people too), but I don’t get the fursuit complaints.

I’m not a furry, but I don’t see how the design just for being anthropomorphic is an inherently bad thing.

I’ll preference this with that I also dislike KISS, and Gene Simmons, and when I saw Obstagoon I didn’t realize or see the connection.

And people are acting like GF are milking nostalgia: of course they are. But people nostalgic for linoone are a big minority and I’m happy with what we got.
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Re: Pokemon Game Discussion 2.0

Postby Godzillian » Wed Aug 14, 2019 5:15 pm

gottatalktothefake wrote:Obstagoon is literally a skreeonking fursuit.

No thank you.

So is Lucario, Zorark, and a bunch of other mons. No one is thinking pursuit but you pervert
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Re: Pokemon Game Discussion 2.0

Postby Fish Cakes » Wed Aug 14, 2019 9:21 pm

Godzillian wrote:So is Lucario, Zorark, and a bunch of other mons. No one is thinking pursuit but you pervert

Well, so are the R34 atists, furries, memers, and general naysayers.

Assuming you meant fursuit that is. Fursuits aren't inherently sexual either, pervert.
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Re: Pokemon Game Discussion 2.0

Postby SoggyNoodles2016 » Thu Aug 15, 2019 11:34 am

There are so many furry Pokémon. I'd rather a cool KISS fan one then (shudder) Lucario.


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Re: Pokemon Game Discussion 2.0

Postby Smuggers » Fri Aug 16, 2019 11:32 am

Godzillian wrote:No one is thinking pursuit but you pervert

Can't blame him, it's a great move to use when mons weak to Dark are trying to switch out
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Re: Pokemon Game Discussion 2.0

Postby Tim85 » Fri Aug 16, 2019 7:53 pm

As I've stated before: the whole "national dex not coming back" doesn't bother me. However, after some further thinking and insight there will be one Pokemon that I will be genuinely pissed if they leave them out:


Ditto.

Yes, Ditto. The Pokemon Breeder's best friend. I use Dittos for nature and IV passing. Not including Ditto will not only make breeding more time consuming but will make some Pokemon unbreedable. That's the only Pokemon I'm nervous about since they haven't revealed it yet. Give me Ditto; and I'll be fine.
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Re: Pokemon Game Discussion 2.0

Postby UltramanGoji » Fri Aug 16, 2019 8:34 pm

Bold of you to assume breeding is even going to be in this game. They're gutting gimmicks left and right and I wouldn't be surprised if that's gone by the next game.
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Re: Pokemon Game Discussion 2.0

Postby Smuggers » Sat Aug 17, 2019 8:13 am

Please understand, the Galar region is simply too cold for Ditto. The warm clothing project has started!
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Re: Pokemon Game Discussion 2.0

Postby LSD Jellyfish » Sat Aug 17, 2019 6:44 pm

I don’t think anyone should assume anything, but given the recent trailer focusing on hidden abilities and some competitive stuff I don’t think breeding is something that’ll have been removed. It’s been a mainstay since gen 2/3.
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Re: Pokemon Game Discussion 2.0

Postby TyrantGojira » Sun Aug 18, 2019 2:22 pm

gottatalktothefake wrote:Obstagoon is literally a skreeonking fursuit.

No thank you.

That's not what I got out of it. To me, he kinda looks like Rawhead Rex.
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