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Re: Pokemon Game Discussion 2.0

Postby Mothra Freak » Sat Jun 16, 2012 8:13 pm

Legionmaster wrote:You fight Rayquaza in a cave, right? Dusk Balls work in caves 24-hours a day.

Oh yeah. I forgot that. It's been a while.

^And you're welcome. Dusk Balls have completely replaced Ultra Balls in catching Legendary Pokemon for me.
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Re: Pokemon Game Discussion 2.0

Postby GreenAiden555 » Sun Jun 17, 2012 12:06 am

Pfft, not catching Legendaries in Poke Balls...

Girlfriend's brother has yet to get me that Groudon. Dammit. I feel stupid for migrating it over.

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Re: Pokemon Game Discussion 2.0

Postby Legionmaster » Sun Jun 17, 2012 5:04 am

I just send over Master Balls from my alt. versions or Gen. 3 games. Even easier than Dusk Balls.
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Re: Pokemon Game Discussion 2.0

Postby Hellblaze » Sun Jun 17, 2012 1:28 pm

5 days left folks till Pokemon Black 2 & White 2 is out in Japan. Pokemon Conquest is out at midnight tonight in North America.
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Re: Pokemon Game Discussion 2.0

Postby Legionmaster » Sun Jun 17, 2012 2:11 pm

Hellblaze wrote:5 days left folks till Pokemon Black 2 & White 2 is out in Japan.

And it will take another 4 months until we find out the rest of the new Unova Dex. *grumble*
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Re: Pokemon Game Discussion 2.0

Postby MothraRocks » Sun Jun 17, 2012 5:16 pm

Legionmaster wrote:
Hellblaze wrote:5 days left folks till Pokemon Black 2 & White 2 is out in Japan.

And it will take another 4 months until we find out the rest of the new Unova Dex. *grumble*


Couldn't we just check on Serebii in 5 days time? :P
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Re: Pokemon Game Discussion 2.0

Postby Legionmaster » Sun Jun 17, 2012 5:39 pm

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Hellblaze wrote:5 days left folks till Pokemon Black 2 & White 2 is out in Japan.

And it will take another 4 months until we find out the rest of the new Unova Dex. *grumble*


Couldn't we just check on Serebii in 5 days time? :P

Not at the rate information is coming in. :P
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Re: Pokemon Game Discussion 2.0

Postby Flygon King » Sun Jun 17, 2012 7:18 pm

Oh don't worry... within a week or two after BW2 come out, we'll have the entire Pokedex, and maybe even footage of almost everything in-game...
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Re: Pokemon Game Discussion 2.0

Postby Legionmaster » Mon Jun 18, 2012 5:19 am

So it's confirmed that the new DW will, at the very least, contain Drilbur. Hooray finally releasing Unova Pokemon online.
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Re: Pokemon Game Discussion 2.0

Postby MothraRocks » Mon Jun 18, 2012 5:41 am

Maybe now I can get some with good abilities. I don't know why, but I really want a Beartic with Swift Swim :/

I really don't want to spoil the games for myself...but I'm probably not gonna be able to help watching an entire walk through online...
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Re: Pokemon Game Discussion 2.0

Postby Flygon King » Mon Jun 18, 2012 6:56 am

Well, it looks like people are already having fun seeing how BK and WK will do in the OU metagame...

Assuming 160 base attack stat and 120 special attack stat for Black Kyurem...

"Given" moves used: Outrage, Hidden Power Fire, and Ice Beam

Ice Beam no investment vs Physically Defensive Skarmory: (62%-73%) Guaranteed 2HKO.
Ice Beam no investment vs Specially Defensive Skarmory: (43%-50%) It has a 48% Chance to 2HKO after SR. But what is Skarm going to do back? Phaze? Can get killed by anything that comes in and will die to SR if it switches out.

Specially Defensive Heatran vs full investment Outrage
Outrage: 155-183 (40.25 - 47.53%) -- 5.08% chance to 2HKO after Stealth Rock
Outrage: 155-183 (40.25 - 47.53%) -- 98.44% chance to 2HKO after Stealth Rock and Spikes

Specially Defensive Jirachi vs Full Investment Outrage
Outrage: 163-192 (40.34 - 47.52%) -- guaranteed 3HKO after Stealth Rock.
Outrage: 163-192 (40.34 - 47.52%) -- 60.55% chance to 2HKO after Stealth Rock and Spikes

Standard Brongzong vs Full Investment Outrage
Outrage: 134-158 (39.64 - 46.74%) -- guaranteed 3HKO after Stealth Rock

Now what about the things that aren't Steel types but can stand up to Outrages? The Big three being Hippowdon, Tangrowth, and Slowbro. Hippo and Tangrowth are OHKO'ed by Ice Beam. What about Slowbro?

Defensive Slowbro vs Full investment Outrage: 220-261 (55.83 - 66.24%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

Looks like Black Kyurem's gonna have a heyday in OU... if it isn't banned.
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Re: Pokemon Game Discussion 2.0

Postby Legionmaster » Mon Jun 18, 2012 6:59 am

^Since when did anyone have any sort of stat spread for the Kyurem formes?
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Re: Pokemon Game Discussion 2.0

Postby Flygon King » Mon Jun 18, 2012 7:07 am

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And for reference... Here's WHite Kyurem's in comparison to Reshiram's...

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Assuming 31 IV's in every stat, no EV's, and a Neutral nature... their speeds are still around 95, health's the same, defences are similar, and their highest offensive stats are around 160...
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Re: Pokemon Game Discussion 2.0

Postby Legionmaster » Mon Jun 18, 2012 7:37 am

That'll do it.

And they will be Uber. ~160/130:130/160 attacking stats with no drawback will result in a very expedient banning.
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Re: Pokemon Game Discussion 2.0

Postby Flygon King » Mon Jun 18, 2012 7:51 am

There IS still a chance they'll be OU... their ice typing hinders them big time, and with other dragons and the Musketeers outspeeding them and slaughtering them with faster Draco Meteors/Outrages/Close Combats and whatnot, they'll probably be kept in line... but on the offensive side of things, they'll 2-3HKO the entire metagame...
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Re: Pokemon Game Discussion 2.0

Postby Legionmaster » Mon Jun 18, 2012 7:55 am

Flygon King wrote:but on the offensive side of things, they'll 2-3HKO the entire metagame...

That's the banable part. Garchomp always fell to revenge KO Ice Shards. Speed Boost Blaziken fails hard against Aqua Jet (without his own priority). Even Rayquaza has a 4x weakness to ice. Didn't stop Smogon from banning them.
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Re: Pokemon Game Discussion 2.0

Postby Flygon King » Mon Jun 18, 2012 8:35 am

Some new footage has come out... which doesn't really reveal much, aside from Misty being in the World Tournament, and her getting a remix of the Kanto Gym Leader theme...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ByzC6y-P ... ure=relmfu
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Re: Pokemon Game Discussion 2.0

Postby MothraRocks » Tue Jun 19, 2012 1:43 pm

Hey, I've never tried PO before, can someone explain how it works? Like, how do you get you team on there? Are you just given it, pick it, or what?
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Re: Pokemon Game Discussion 2.0

Postby GreenAiden555 » Tue Jun 19, 2012 2:01 pm

MothraRocks wrote:Hey, I've never tried PO before, can someone explain how it works? Like, how do you get you team on there? Are you just given it, pick it, or what?

You make it. You select from the dropdown, the Pokemon, nickname, IVs, nature, EVs, etc, etc...
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Re: Pokemon Game Discussion 2.0

Postby Bentley » Tue Jun 19, 2012 10:03 pm

The problem with that Kyurem is that he gets destroyed by priority Bullet Punch.
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