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Hey everyone I have a question for you all:

I am currently at the third gym in Heartgold on an emulator and I have questions about teams for Heartgold. Since I am on an emulator, I cannot trade. The Pokemon that I am building around are Typhlosion and Scyther (for nostalgia purposes). Do any of you have any recommendations for an in-game team to build around these two? Currently I have these candidates:

Ampharos: I currently raising a Flaafy.

Bellossom: Just won the Bug Contest with Scyther and have a Sun Stone. I always wondered how good it is.

Donphan: I think Manphy comes later in the game but I always like ground types

Water-Type: I think a must on any team, but wondering what my best option is.

Togekiss: Afraid of having another flying type alongside Scyther, but the stats look great

Let me know what you guys think. I am not looking to use legendaries as well as Pokemon after the Pokemon league like Tyranitar.

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Heartgold mons... There's a few I can recommend with Typhlosion and Scyther to base around...

Quagsire or Lapras: Solid surfing mons with a lot of utility and great coverage in the case of Lapras, and they eat up specific hits for days. Plus Lapras handles Lance's dragons very well, while Quagsire walls Red's Pikachu and Charizard to the end of the world.

Ampharos is a solid choice

Heracross: It's a goddamn Heracross, and it WILL wreck almost anything in its path. Why NOT use it?

Tangrowth: This thing is insane, and much better than Bellossom. It's fat, it hits hard, it will not die to any physical move, and it's got a solid movepool.

Those are my personal suggestions, with the usual mons like Gyarados, Skarmory, Magneton, and Primeape all being solid options as well.
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Giratina93 wrote:Heartgold mons... There's a few I can recommend with Typhlosion and Scyther to base around...

Quagsire or Lapras: Solid surfing mons with a lot of utility and great coverage in the case of Lapras, and they eat up specific hits for days. Plus Lapras handles Lance's dragons very well, while Quagsire walls Red's Pikachu and Charizard to the end of the world.

Ampharos is a solid choice

Heracross: It's a goddamn Heracross, and it WILL wreck almost anything in its path. Why NOT use it?

Tangrowth: This thing is insane, and much better than Bellossom. It's fat, it hits hard, it will not die to any physical move, and it's got a solid movepool.

Those are my personal suggestions, with the usual mons like Gyarados, Skarmory, Magneton, and Primeape all being solid options as well.
Thanks for the response. I am definitely gonna give Lapras a shot as I have never used it on a team before. Question about Tangrowth: do I have to breed it to gain access to Ancient Power or is at a tutor move later on?

Also what is your opinion on Mamoswine?

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GodzillaXGomoraFight wrote:
Giratina93 wrote:Heartgold mons... There's a few I can recommend with Typhlosion and Scyther to base around...

Quagsire or Lapras: Solid surfing mons with a lot of utility and great coverage in the case of Lapras, and they eat up specific hits for days. Plus Lapras handles Lance's dragons very well, while Quagsire walls Red's Pikachu and Charizard to the end of the world.

Ampharos is a solid choice

Heracross: It's a goddamn Heracross, and it WILL wreck almost anything in its path. Why NOT use it?

Tangrowth: This thing is insane, and much better than Bellossom. It's fat, it hits hard, it will not die to any physical move, and it's got a solid movepool.

Those are my personal suggestions, with the usual mons like Gyarados, Skarmory, Magneton, and Primeape all being solid options as well.
Thanks for the response. I am definitely gonna give Lapras a shot as I have never used it on a team before. Question about Tangrowth: do I have to breed it to gain access to Ancient Power or is at a tutor move later on?

Also what is your opinion on Mamoswine?

Thanks Giratina93
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Cool looking forward to giving Tangrowth a try!
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I'm starting to pull my nostalgia glasses off and moving away from gen 1.

I still think the designs are getting worse with each gen, but there are still some seriously cool looking pokemon in every gen.

Tyrantrum has skyrocketed into my top 3 pokemon list in the last year. And Feraligatr has recently become my favorite starter.

I still am losing interest in the main series games. They just get so boring after doing the same thing over and over. But the spin off titles and the lore still have me hooked.
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Zilla103192 wrote:I still am losing interest in the main series games. They just get so boring after doing the same thing over and over. But the spin off titles and the lore still have me hooked.
They took gyms out of gen 7, but a lot of people want them back already. It’s the damned if you do, damned if you don’t scenario. I don’t really get bored of Pokémon, but I get what you mean.

Hopefully the switch game will be more focused on having a better world and more of a longer and harder story.
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Regarding the main complaints of gen 7, I never really heard people wanting the gyms back, at least not as a vocal majority or even minority. The bulk of the complaints are in regards to SOS weather calls, the horrible distribution of mons in general, the unskippable cutscenes that take far too long, and Rotomdex, especially in USUM (And complaints about Lillie, but I have no issues with her)My god, whoever decided to make Rotomdex into the next Navi deserves to burn in hell. I JUST SAVED ALREADY, YOU JACKASS!YOU DON'T NEED TO FUCKING REMIND ME!
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Giratina93 wrote:Regarding the main complaints of gen 7, I never really heard people wanting the gyms back, at least not as a vocal majority or even minority.
I remember seeing people upset that there wouldn't be gyms in Sun and Moon when the trials were first shown in a trailer. I don't think it was a huge uproar, but they were still there.
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Just beat the Elite 4 for the first time in HeartGold. I got my team up to Level 45 and with the exception of Bruno's Machamp, this team performed relatively well. Here is my team for the W and my thoughts on them:

Typhlosion (Naive, Blaze)

Moveset: Sunny Day, Focus Blast, Solarbeam, Flamethrower

Opinion: I've used Typhlosion in Gen 2 multiple times, but this is the first time I've used Typhlosion with the Gen 4 physical/special attack split. With the nature, this mon is my fastest Pokemon by a margin and a great special sweeper. Sunny Day is good for setting up a stronger Flamethrower and Solarbeam spam. Focus Blast is a strong move that while it has some redundant coverage with Solarbeam, it was very handy in taking out Dark Pokemon in the Elite 4. I will probably stick to this moveset in the future.

Tangrowth (Serious, Chlorophyll)

Moveset: Growth, PoisonPowder, AncientPower, Mega Drain

Opinion: A fantastic physical tank. Tangrowth hits hard even with Mega Drain being its most effective move. It does poorly against most special attacks, but Mega Drain helps keep it around a bit longer. Will most likely change the moveset to include Power Whip and/or Giga Drain at the very least.

Scyther (Calm, Technician)

Moveset: Wing Attack, Double Team, X-Scissor, Pursuit

Opinion: The nature hurts Scyther's great attack for a little bit of special bulk, which I have tried to nullify by giving Scyther Protein several times. He still manages to hit hard most of the time and his Wing Attack takes care of most Fighting types; however, if Scyther can't get the KO on the first blow, he is very suspect to getting KOed after by a strong Pokemon. This happened with Bruno's Machamp, who took a Wing Attack head on and then one-hit KOed Scyther with Rock Slide. Looking to use Swords Dance over Double Team and Aerial Ace over Wing Attack in the future. Considering exchanging Pursuit for Quick Attack because Scyther is not the fastest Pokemon out there.

Kangaskhan (Brave, Scrappy)

Moveset: Return, Outrage, Drain Punch, Sucker Punch

Opinion: This is the hardest-hitting physical attacker on my team. Has very balanced stats and a great movepool. This moveset makes Kangaskhan a very versatile all-out attacker. Return hits hard and Outrage was a great help against Lance's dragons. Drain Punch could hit harder and I think I will use Reversal over this once it learns it. Have yet to use Sucker Punch yet, but I think it will be a good priority move. Kangaskhan is the best candidate on my team for Earthquake, which I think my team desperately needs since it doesn't have a great counter for Fire and Electric types.

Lapras (Rash, Shell Armor)

Moveset: Ice Beam, Perish Song, Surf, Body Slam

Opinion: Like Kangaskhan, Lapras is very balanced with a good amount of bulk. STAB Ice Beam is a treat and Perish Song helped me through some tough gym battles. His Attack is very close to his Special Attack, so I am debating whether or not I put an Electric move instead of Body Slam.

Raikou (Gentle, Pressure)

Moveset: Thunder, Reflect, Crunch, Shadow Ball

Opinion: Raikou is a slower Special sweeper than Typhlosion with very good Special Defense. Thunder hits real hard and with the right moveset, I think Raikou can be fantastic. Calm Mind in the future for sure.

Overall, I think this is a pretty decent in-game team. With the exception of Fire types and Electric types, I think this team has pretty solid defensive coverage and better offensive coverage. Got all of Kanto to explore so this team can only get better.
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Just started playing Pokémon Emerald today. It's so far an awesome game.
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ZeppandonConfirmed wrote:Just started playing Pokémon Emerald today. It's so far an awesome game.
Really solid game. Played it several times over haha.
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https://mobile.twitter.com/JamesTurner_42
In case anyone hasn't heard of the unused gen 1 Pokemon that just popped up. :D
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UltimateDitto wrote:https://mobile.twitter.com/JamesTurner_42
In case anyone hasn't heard of the unused gen 1 Pokemon that just popped up. :D
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Now I want to make actual sprites for these guys in paint. ;)
That deer one looks great, shame it went unused.
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From one of Ruffled Rowlets newer videos.
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I think I like the unused crocodile one the most, just because it looks really big eyed. Also, remember gen 1 sprites were notoriously crappy, so even if they looked bad I’m sure they’d look normal with more updated art.

And I really like most of the Gorochu concept art, I’m hoping the new games include it.
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Am i the only one beyond missed by the lack of a national powered in UMUS
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Let's Go Pikachu and Let's go Eevee officially announced!
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Seems neat, but I will probably skip this one and wait for generation 8.
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