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Postby MechaGoji Bro7503 » Sun Nov 19, 2017 7:25 am

Campaign was disappointing. Arcade is a ton of fun, although having cross era heroes is annoying. I have yet to play online yet.....

Oh, and why couldn't they get Mark Hamill to do the voice of Luke? It wasn't too many lines, and plus he's like always available to voice the Joker- so.
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Postby CyberZilla » Sun Nov 19, 2017 3:10 pm

MechaGoji Bro7503 wrote:Campaign was disappointing. Arcade is a ton of fun, although having cross era heroes is annoying. I have yet to play online yet.....

Oh, and why couldn't they get Mark Hamill to do the voice of Luke? It wasn't too many lines, and plus he's like always available to voice the Joker- so.


He doesn't really sound like the younger Luke now, though. What baffles me is how they couldn't get Adam Driver to voice Kylo when they got Daisy to voice Rey...
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Postby Giratina93 » Tue Nov 21, 2017 2:00 pm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6c52o-SNAfs

And look who comes to EA's defense against the scummy, wallet warrior players, but CNBC? How pathetic.
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Postby miguelnuva » Tue Nov 21, 2017 5:57 pm

Started playing yesterday, my brother and I are having fun. EA just needs to remove the arcade credit limit and stop forcing online play.
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Postby KManX89 » Fri Nov 24, 2017 6:47 am

LOL, I don't know if you guys have been following the Star Wars Battlefront II gambling fiasco, but man, it is blowing up HARD in EA's face, and you know what? I skreeonking love it! Belgium already launched a campaign looking to regulate or outright prohibit the sale of BF II and other games using a similar P2W/loot box system in Europe on the grounds of it constituting gambling (and let's be honest, it IS basically gambling), and now Hawaii's joining in on the fun.

Chris Lee, a state representative from Hawaii likened BF II's loot boxes to a form of predatory children's gambling and is also pushing to have it banned/regulated nationwide:



"This game is a Star Wars-themed online casino designed to lure kids into spending money; it's a trap. This is something we need to address to ensure that particularly kids who are underage, who are not psychologically and emotionally mature enough to be able to gamble - which is why gambling is prohibited under 21 - are protected from being trapped into these cycles which have compelled many folks to spend thousands of dollars in gaming fees online."


LOL, how 'bout them apples, son? :lol:
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Re: Star Wars battlefront

Postby Godzillian » Fri Nov 24, 2017 7:24 am

the original two battlefront games are still leagues better then this EA stuff. How could it all go so wrong? How could EA mess it up so badly?
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Postby MechaGoji Bro7503 » Fri Nov 24, 2017 7:55 am

Godzillian wrote:the original two battlefront games are still leagues better then this EA stuff. How could it all go so wrong? How could EA mess it up so badly?

I know right? I hope that with Disney being displeased with the game and the whole banning of gambling fiasco, that the original Battlefronts are released for ps4.
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Postby miguelnuva » Fri Nov 24, 2017 2:20 pm

People are blowing the loot crate situation way out of proportion.

EA messed up with the pay to win function of the game but their not the only ones to use lootcrates.
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Postby Greyshot151 » Fri Nov 24, 2017 3:25 pm

miguelnuva wrote:People are blowing the loot crate situation way out of proportion.

EA messed up with the pay to win function of the game but their not the only ones to use lootcrates.


True, but they're the ones that pushed the envelope too far and so they will be the scapegoat in a lot of ways for the entire system. Its never the group that pushes the limits of a law to get punished. Its always those that go too far and so the whole system falls upon them.
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Postby Spirit Ghidorah 2010 » Fri Nov 24, 2017 3:31 pm

MechaGoji Bro7503 wrote:
Godzillian wrote:the original two battlefront games are still leagues better then this EA stuff. How could it all go so wrong? How could EA mess it up so badly?

I know right? I hope that with Disney being displeased with the game and the whole banning of gambling fiasco, that the original Battlefronts are released for ps4.

I mean, if you own the original Battlefront II for PC (and if you don't, it's only $10 on Steam/GOG), there's a recent patch that allows you to play MP online even after GameSpy servers were shuttered.
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Postby MechaGoji Bro7503 » Fri Nov 24, 2017 4:17 pm

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MechaGoji Bro7503 wrote:I know right? I hope that with Disney being displeased with the game and the whole banning of gambling fiasco, that the original Battlefronts are released for ps4.

I mean, if you own the original Battlefront II for PC (and if you don't, it's only $10 on Steam/GOG), there's a recent patch that allows you to play MP online even after GameSpy servers were shuttered.

Well, I do have both of them for the ps2. I should of clarified.
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Postby Zarm » Fri Nov 24, 2017 4:36 pm

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miguelnuva wrote:People are blowing the loot crate situation way out of proportion.

EA messed up with the pay to win function of the game but their not the only ones to use lootcrates.


True, but they're the ones that pushed the envelope too far and so they will be the scapegoat in a lot of ways for the entire system. Its never the group that pushes the limits of a law to get punished. Its always those that go too far and so the whole system falls upon them.


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Postby Gawdziller1954 » Fri Nov 24, 2017 9:35 pm

EA has officially transcended reddit history. Most dislikes on a single post in reddit history.
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Postby KManX89 » Sat Nov 25, 2017 6:46 am

miguelnuva wrote:People are blowing the loot crate situation way out of proportion.

EA messed up with the pay to win function of the game but their not the only ones to use lootcrates.


No, but they're the first company to implement a pay to win loot crate system and tried to lure kids to gamble and spend as much as hundreds of dollars on loot boxes that can actually give them an unfair advantage over other players.

If Capcom implemented a loot crate system in which users have a random chance of getting a Chun-Li skin in SFV that grants the user infinite CA meter, you're damn right they should feel the full weight of the law crashing down on their heads.

Oh, but not even Capcom is this scummy with their business practices (they outright said no MTs in Monster Hunter World), so it's a moot point. Yes, the same company that spent just over half of SFV's DLC budget on MvCI, that Capcom.
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Postby miguelnuva » Sat Nov 25, 2017 1:21 pm

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miguelnuva wrote:People are blowing the loot crate situation way out of proportion.

EA messed up with the pay to win function of the game but their not the only ones to use lootcrates.


No, but they're the first company to implement a pay to win loot crate system and tried to lure kids to gamble and spend as much as hundreds of dollars on loot boxes that can actually give them an unfair advantage over other players.



EA is not holding a gun to anyone's head and forcing them to buy lootcrates. As I said it was stupid to put out items to get stronger weapons to win but skill can overcome any weapon in the game unless EA had triple health and one hit kills in these lootcrates.

People who think these lootcrates are gambling must not gamble in real life.
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Postby CyberZilla » Sat Nov 25, 2017 2:52 pm

miguelnuva wrote:
KManX89 wrote:
miguelnuva wrote:People are blowing the loot crate situation way out of proportion.

EA messed up with the pay to win function of the game but their not the only ones to use lootcrates.


No, but they're the first company to implement a pay to win loot crate system and tried to lure kids to gamble and spend as much as hundreds of dollars on loot boxes that can actually give them an unfair advantage over other players.




EA is not holding a gun to anyone's head and forcing them to buy lootcrates. As I said it was stupid to put out items to get stronger weapons to win but skill can overcome any weapon in the game unless EA had triple health and one hit kills in these lootcrates.

People.who think these lootcrates are gambling must not gamble in real life.


The crate payout is totally random, you have to spend a ton of credits to HOPEFULLY get 1-2 rare or good items, and if there were micro transactions, you'd effectively be spending money to HOPEFULLY get the "prize." If that's not gambling, I don't know what to tell you, bud.
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Postby miguelnuva » Sat Nov 25, 2017 3:08 pm

CyberZilla wrote:
miguelnuva wrote:
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No, but they're the first company to implement a pay to win loot crate system and tried to lure kids to gamble and spend as much as hundreds of dollars on loot boxes that can actually give them an unfair advantage over other players.




EA is not holding a gun to anyone's head and forcing them to buy lootcrates. As I said it was stupid to put out items to get stronger weapons to win but skill can overcome any weapon in the game unless EA had triple health and one hit kills in these lootcrates.

People.who think these lootcrates are gambling must not gamble in real life.


The crate payout is totally random, you have to spend a ton of credits to HOPEFULLY get 1-2 rare or good items, and if there were micro transactions, you'd effectively be spending money to HOPEFULLY get the "prize." If that's not gambling, I don't know what to tell you, bud.


Gambling to me is spend your money for little prizes but your goal is to win a big prize of money. In Gambling more than not you walk away with nothing. Buying loot boxes means your getting something everytime which is different from gambling. Using real money for the lootcrates is also not the only way to get them its just a quicker easier way (The Dark side kinda fitting for the game).

EA screwed up with these loot crate but as I said were there really one sided star cards at launch or was it simply a combination of sucky situations combined with people overreacting.
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Postby MM Raids Again » Sun Nov 26, 2017 6:16 pm

I think the better comparison of loot boxes is like buying a pack of random trading cards. Never know what you're getting, could be rare or common. Crappy or good.
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Postby KManX89 » Mon Nov 27, 2017 2:22 pm

miguelnuva wrote:
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miguelnuva wrote:

EA is not holding a gun to anyone's head and forcing them to buy lootcrates. As I said it was stupid to put out items to get stronger weapons to win but skill can overcome any weapon in the game unless EA had triple health and one hit kills in these lootcrates.

People.who think these lootcrates are gambling must not gamble in real life.


The crate payout is totally random, you have to spend a ton of credits to HOPEFULLY get 1-2 rare or good items, and if there were micro transactions, you'd effectively be spending money to HOPEFULLY get the "prize." If that's not gambling, I don't know what to tell you, bud.


Gambling to me is spend your money for little prizes but your goal is to win a big prize of money. In Gambling more than not you walk away with nothing. Buying loot boxes means your getting something everytime which is different from gambling. Using real money for the lootcrates is also not the only way to get them its just a quicker easier way (The Dark side kinda fitting for the game).

EA screwed up with these loot crate but as I said were there really one sided star cards at launch or was it simply a combination of sucky situations combined with people overreacting.


By that logic, if slot machines gave you stickers every time you lost, it would no longer be gambling.

Or, here's a better one:

Casinos start handing out claw machine tokens with a 1/12 chance of winning more chips every time you lose in poker: no longer gambling, which means they can start luring kids to the poker table without suffering any legal repercussions. All for a mere SHOT at making back money you lost, which you probably won't get, anyway, but hey, at least it's somethin', right? :lol:

It doesn't work that way. If you get back less than what you wagered, it's essentially losing money, hence gambling. Angry Joe said he spent $40 on loot boxes (before they removed crystals because of all the backlash) and got nothing but useless items in his review, that's what you would call getting ripped off:

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Re: Star Wars battlefront

Postby miguelnuva » Tue Nov 28, 2017 12:18 am

KManX89 wrote:
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The crate payout is totally random, you have to spend a ton of credits to HOPEFULLY get 1-2 rare or good items, and if there were micro transactions, you'd effectively be spending money to HOPEFULLY get the "prize." If that's not gambling, I don't know what to tell you, bud.


Gambling to me is spend your money for little prizes but your goal is to win a big prize of money. In Gambling more than not you walk away with nothing. Buying loot boxes means your getting something everytime which is different from gambling. Using real money for the lootcrates is also not the only way to get them its just a quicker easier way (The Dark side kinda fitting for the game).

EA screwed up with these loot crate but as I said were there really one sided star cards at launch or was it simply a combination of sucky situations combined with people overreacting.


By that logic, if slot machines gave you stickers every time you lost, it would no longer be gambling.

Or, here's a better one:

Casinos start handing out claw machine tokens with a 1/12 chance of winning more chips every time you lose in poker: no longer gambling, which means they can start luring kids to the poker table without suffering any legal repercussions. All for a mere SHOT at making back money you lost, which you probably won't get, anyway, but hey, at least it's somethin', right? :lol:

It doesn't work that way. If you get back less than what you wagered, it's essentially losing money, hence gambling. Angry Joe said he spent $40 on loot boxes (before they removed crystals because of all the backlash) and got nothing but useless items in his review, that's what you would call getting ripped off:

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Your example sucks because casinos are never going to give away small prizes to those that play slots.

As MM said above lootcrates are more like buying a pack of trading cards. It sucks that originally people could buy an advantage but it also sounds like people spent a stupid amount of money to get that said advantage.

As for Angry Joe He knew lootcrates were random and no one told him he had to buy the lootcrates. Sounds like people spent a lot of money to get an advantage and then got upset because they got random cards.
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