Resident Evil Discussion Thread

[Goji]

Pfffft. Well count me in as an "idiot" too.

I love the Biohazard series, and while RE5 was a big disappointment, I'm not going to pass on this game because the last wasn't all that stellar.

Did you play the DLC "Lost in Nightmares"? That was pretty sweet. Very much like RE1

I did actually! It was just over too soon.

[Proofpoochie]

Resident Evil sucks now.

Give me back the horror gameplay.

THIS!

I heard the people at Capcom were trying to make this a horror experience. Judging by the trailer, I guess they talked to the makers of Troll 2 to find out what "horror" was.

[NSZ]

Resident Evil sucks now.

Give me back the horror gameplay.

THIS!

I heard the people at Capcom were trying to make this a horror experience. Judging by the trailer, I guess they talked to the makers of Troll 2 to find out what "horror" was.

You realize it's probably gonna be split right?

Leon gets horror, Chris gets action, and the new guy probably gets the QTEs.

[Chris55]

Chris gets action

Sweet!

[Proofpoochie]

Resident Evil sucks now.

Give me back the horror gameplay.

THIS!

I heard the people at Capcom were trying to make this a horror experience. Judging by the trailer, I guess they talked to the makers of Troll 2 to find out what "horror" was.

You realize it's probably gonna be split right?

Leon gets horror, Chris gets action, and the new guy probably gets the QTEs.

"Leon gets horror"? Did you even watch the trailer with Leon sliding around all over place and explosions everywhere? If that's what "horror" is supposed to be than I'm confused.

[Shazam14]

It was just one trailer. Maybe in others they'll be more horror.

[Living Corpse]

You guys do realize horror and action can work together right? I can't speak for everyone but to me RE4 did a pretty damn good balance of horror and action.

RE5 is where they dropped the ball.

[NSZ]

"Leon gets horror"? Did you even watch the trailer with Leon sliding around all over place and explosions everywhere? If that's what "horror" is supposed to be than I'm confused.

"Did you even watch the trailer with Leon sliding around all over place and explosions everywhere?" Boy, you must have gotten an A++ in hyperbole class. There was one skreeonk explosion in the entirety of the Leon portions of the trailer. Explosions and fire ain't exactly new to the franchise.

[Biollante]

It's very hard to do horror when the player has no sense of tension for the game he/she is playing. That's why many people don't take RE4 seriously as a horror game due to abundance of ammo and more open spaced level design. I suppose some could argue that the latter (and aged tank controls) artificially creates horror, but nevertheless I find it far more scary to rush through a tight hallway of zombies with just a knife vs. sitting in a locked room and aiming my fully loaded pistol at the only entrance for "zombies" to climb into.

But to be fair, the RE4 Chainsaw guy was pretty scary.

[Living Corpse]

So wait a secret service agent should not learn new tricks and not use his training in order to survive a zombie/mutant/monster outbreak?


Logic. It's lacking here.

And like I said earlier you can still balance horror and action. They did it fine in RE4, they screwed it up in RE5. Time will only tell in RE6. If you want horror without fancy tricks and stunts then play the first four Silent Hill games. There all average joes with now special training. And adding to what NSZ said, there was explosions and fires everywhere in RE2 and RE3. Flaming cars anyone? Yeah, nothing new.

[Biollante]

And like I said earlier you can still balance horror and action.

You can, but it's hard to make a good balance. I can't honestly say that RE4 was a good horror game, but it was a great action game. You just can't have a good horror game when there's no sense of fear and you can't (in most cases) have a good action game when there's tight level design and lack of combat options. This is why I find horror has become more of an atmospheric genre and less about gameplay.

[SuperSaiyan4Godzilla]

And like I said earlier you can still balance horror and action.

You can, but it's hard to make a good balance. I can't honestly say that RE4 was a good horror game, but it was a great action game. You just can't have a good horror game when there's no sense of fear and you can't (in most cases) have a good action game when there's tight level design and lack of combat options.

RE4 was better horror game than 5, though. That's for sure.

[Living Corpse]

And like I said earlier you can still balance horror and action.

You can, but it's hard to make a good balance. I can't honestly say that RE4 was a good horror game, but it was a great action game. You just can't have a good horror game when there's no sense of fear and you can't (in most cases) have a good action game when there's tight level design and lack of combat options. This is why I find horror has become more of an atmospheric genre and less about gameplay.

Well I guess this depends on who's playing. Personally RE4 was one of the scariest experiences for me. It seemed like no matter how much I upgraded my guns I was screwed. I ran out of ammo very often until I learned to dispatch the weaker foes with the knife.

But yeah, 5 dropped the ball big time.

[Proofpoochie]

And like I said earlier you can still balance horror and action.

You can, but it's hard to make a good balance. I can't honestly say that RE4 was a good horror game, but it was a great action game. You just can't have a good horror game when there's no sense of fear and you can't (in most cases) have a good action game when there's tight level design and lack of combat options.

RE4 was better horror game than 5, though. That's for sure.

Neither game was actually scary, though.

[Goji]

Shit, you wanna talk scary?

Play RE3 on "Hard", where your constantly running from Nemesis due to lack of ammo. Every time you hear the music announcing his presence, you start worrying when and where he'll pop out next.

Or the original RE, where ammo is hard to come by, and your constantly forced to traverse claustrophobic hallways with a ton of zombies in your path (and like Biollante mentioned), with nothing more than a knife in hand.

Now THAT's Biohazard! I want to see another game that's actually "survival horror", like the first 4 games (I consider Code Veronica to be the "real" RE3). The balance of "action" and "horror" in RE4 was just about perfect. Like others have said, the developers of RE5 really dropped the ball with that game (Seriously, I think I face palmed when Chris and Sheva jumped in unison in sloooow motion at one point in the game. You all know what I'm talking about). Hopefully 6 will do what RE4 did, but even better. One can hope..

[SuperSaiyan4Godzilla]

Neither game was actually scary, though.

I hate horror because I'm scared too easily.

RE4 is a better horror game because it scared me. RE5 is exactly like all of those hack zombie games that are out now. RE5 didn't scare more.

That's my logic.

[Proofpoochie]

Shit, you wanna talk scary?

Play RE3 on "Hard", where your constantly running from Nemesis due to lack of ammo. Every time you hear the music announcing his presence, you start worrying when and where he'll pop out next.

Or the original RE, where ammo is hard to come by, and your constantly forced to traverse claustrophobic hallways with a ton of zombies in your path (and like Biollante mentioned), with nothing more than a knife in hand.

Now THAT's Biohazard! I want to see another game that's actually "survival horror", like the first 4 games (I consider Code Veronica to be the "real" RE3). The balance of "action" and "horror" in RE4 was just about perfect. Like others have said, the developers of RE5 really dropped the ball with that game (Seriously, I think I face palmed when Chris and Sheva jumped in unison in sloooow motion at one point in the game. You all know what I'm talking about). Hopefully 6 will do what RE4 did, but even better. One can hope..

RE was already dead to me by the time RE5 came out, so I enjoyed RE5 for being a fun action game. I enjoyed RE4 too, but not as an RE game.

[Living Corpse]

If there is one thing I don't like about the trailer it's the implied retcon with the President saying he's gonna tell the truth about Racoon City real soon.

In several past games and spinoff material the public pretty much already learned what happened to Racoon City and what Umbrella did if not in depth then at the very least know the basic gist of it. I really hope this isn't a retcon and that people still already know the basic stuff about the outbreak and he's just talking about letting them know the more case sensitive stuff.

[NSZ]

If there is one thing I don't like about the trailer it's the implied retcon with the President saying he's gonna tell the truth about Racoon City real soon.

In several past games and spinoff material the public pretty much already learned what happened to Racoon City and what Umbrella did if not in depth then at the very least know the basic gist of it. I really hope this isn't a retcon and that people still already know the basic stuff about the outbreak and he's just talking about letting them know the more case sensitive stuff.

Well, if you think about it, we're still being told new info of what went down in Racoon City. I mean after 3, everyone thought they knew everything there was to know about the Racoon City incident. Cue the Outbreak games. After those two came and went, everyone went back to thinking what they thought before. Cue Operation: Racoon City. Everytime we think we know everything, Capcom throws a fastball.

In universe, the public probably only knows the very basics of what went down. They probably have no idea about the events that transpired in the Arklay Mountains that set up the incident in Racoon City, and probably have no idea that Umbrella sent their own special forces in there to kill any survivors.

[Living Corpse]

If there is one thing I don't like about the trailer it's the implied retcon with the President saying he's gonna tell the truth about Racoon City real soon.

In several past games and spinoff material the public pretty much already learned what happened to Racoon City and what Umbrella did if not in depth then at the very least know the basic gist of it. I really hope this isn't a retcon and that people still already know the basic stuff about the outbreak and he's just talking about letting them know the more case sensitive stuff.

Well, if you think about it, we're still being told new info of what went down in Racoon City. I mean after 3, everyone thought they knew everything there was to know about the Racoon City incident. Cue the Outbreak games. After those two came and went, everyone went back to thinking what they thought before. Cue Operation: Racoon City. Everytime we think we know everything, Capcom throws a fastball.

In universe, the public probably only knows the very basics of what went down. They probably have no idea about the events that transpired in the Arklay Mountains that set up the incident in Racoon City, and probably have no idea that Umbrella sent their own special forces in there to kill any survivors.

I hope your right. I mean watching films like Cloverfield gives you sense that pretty much everyone knows about the incident and what were seeing on the tape is just more case sensitive stuff the government and families is keeping under wraps until they feel ready to share it. I get the same feeling with Resident Evil. Everyone knows about B.O.W.s and they know about Umbrella they just don't know how deep it goes. Kinda like how even today missions from WW2 are still being declassified.


Also Operation Racoon City is more of a what it thing, seeing how the timeline would change if key players like Leon died. But yeah even in a what if game we still might learn something that is canon. It makes me wonder, even thoguh ORC is a what if game are Vector and Spec-Ops also just what if's or were they really there and we're just seeing what could have happened had the U.S.S. succeed.

P.S. Cue Umbrella Chronicles. We learned how Ada got out of the city alive and we learned of the awesome Sergia.