Anyway, I agree with most people here. the 1933 original is my favorite, but the 2005 PJ version is a very well done remake I enjoy as well.

Legionmaster wrote:All the people who claim the '05 remake brought all sorts of definition to Kong/Ann are silly. Because it really didn't, and what it did was already there in the '76 remake.

kpa wrote:I completely disagree. In the 1976 version, Dwan definitely develops sympathy/affection for Kong, which is a big change from the 1933 version where Ann wanted absolutely nothing to do with Kong.
But the 2005 version defines the relationship between the two characters very differently. In the Jackson film, the main characters never interrupt Kong's "wedding ceremony"-- a key scene in both the 33 and 76 versions-- and that throws out the love/stalker theme which is central to the previous versions. Instead of the "Bride of Kong" story, the 05 film creates a familial bond between Kong and Ann; early on it is established that Ann has lost everyone she has ever cared about, and later in the film we see that Kong has lost his family as well. After Ann stands up to Kong on Skull Island he lets her go (something that never happens in previous versions), during and after the V-Rex battle she chooses to stay with Kong (and his facial expressions show he understands that), and during his NYC rampage she seeks him out (rather than run away like in 1933 and 1976). And at the end, Ann considers following Kong to her death until Driscoll literally calls her back from the edge.
Legionmaster wrote:GodzillaDude wrote:Legionmaster wrote:All the people who claim the '05 remake brought all sorts of definition to Kong/Ann are silly. Because it really didn't, and what it did was already there in the '76 remake.
Plus, the '05 remake is a good 45 minutes too long (or rather, 45 minutes too poorly paced).
The '33 original isn't that exciting. It's retrospectively pretty generic and the only real part I react in a strong positive fashion to is the humorous fact that the brontosaurus chomps down on more humans than anyone else.
The '76 remake? All sorts of unintential funniness. It's so bad, and so good. I really enjoy how terrible it is.
Yeah it did bring more to the relationship between Kong and Ann. Something that wasn't that emphasized that much at all in the original. In Jackson's film it actually showed them bonding and makes you more so understand why Ann would care about him and vice versa. That relationship aspect was hardly there at all in the original.
Had you bothered to finish bolding my sentence, you'd see that I was talking about the '76 remake, not the '33 original.
o.supreme wrote:What? No love for King Kong Lives??![]()


UltramanGoji wrote:Brody wrote:Let's say I've been a part of the kaiju community before most of you were allowed on the computer, ask some of the veteran members of kaijuphile who Deoson is.
Ask all of us if we give a shit.
Dr. Nishiyama wrote:King Kong '76 all the way. It was the first Kong movie I saw as well as the first movie I remember having a big impact on me. I was four or five and was wowed by it. Jessica Lange was also my first crush and whenever she was onscreen she made me feel funny down there. My favorite scene in the film is when Dwan's trying to calm Kong down in the oil tanker.
Never understood the hate this film gets. The acting is solid (Jessica Lange won a golden globe, and yes, her character was SUPPOSED to be like that), John Barry's music is incredible, the scope is epic, the animatronics for the Kong masks were groundbreaking at the time, Jeff Bridges plays a great moralistic hero, Charles Grodin is a great villain, and Rick Baker's Kong suit is awesome. Yes the dinosaurs are missed, but they weren't in the original Kong "idea" conceived by Merian C Cooper, who wanted the big guy to fight a giant komodo dragon (Willis O'Brien brought in the dinosaur theme since he had all those dino puppets leftover from his unmade Creation film) ALso, Kong's first appearance is treated as an event and wasn't a letdown for me like the '05 version, like how he kinda jumps out of the bushes at that's it. (to be fair with Jackson's version, I did love the scene with Kong sliding around on the ice bank having a moment with Ann)
Also, Kong '76 was neither a box office or critical disaster. It was quite the opposite.
Is Kong '33 the better film? OF COURSE! I love that film! But as a favorite, it goes to Kong '76.
I think Jackson's film is hit and miss. It's overlong (not a bad thing, but all the scenes that go on don't add to the story, and that Jimmy kid with the backstory was absolutely pointless, seeing how he disappears after the island sequence. Also didn't like the Playstation special effects. They'd look better if it were mixed with other kinds of FX like what they did with Jurassic Park). Also hated how Jackson one ups the original by having Kong fight 3 T-rexes (while holding Ann) instead one and instead of one brontosaurus, it's a flipping' stampede. Also thought the choices for the prehistoric beasties could've been better. While it comes off that I hate Jackson's film, I do like it, but it could've so much better if Jackson took a year off after Return of the King then came back to it all rested.
Lastly, those who dislike the campy tone of the '76 Kong ought to know that Jackson's first draft of his version really wasn't any better! (this would've came out in '97 or '98 but was scrapped once GINO and the Mighty Joe Young remake were in production)
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Legion1979 wrote:Oh yes, thank you for linking to a page with nothing but Japanese text. That was so damn helpful.
Brody wrote:I don't approve of any kind of sex that involves male genitalia

Dr. Nishiyama wrote: Also didn't like the Playstation special effects.
Gawdziller wrote: The 70's film is just bland as shit and has very little entertainment value. I actually prefer watching King Kong Lives over it. At least that one's good for a laugh.
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