wataru wrote:Im pretty sure some ninjas were killed in that explosion in BB that Bruce Wayne caused. So he did actually kill people.
Well, for one, they're ninjas. Super fast and agile. I think they'd be smart enough and fast enough to notice the building is come down and get out of there. So I doubt that act people were killed. Two, even if some ninjas were killed, Bruce probably believes that all of them did get out, and that he didn't kill anyone. So his conscience his clean in that respect. Three, it's been a while since I've watched the film, but didn't Bruce only start a small part of that, just so he could get out of a situation where he would have had to kill someone? In that case, he only contributed one chain in that large chain of events that led to the explosion of the building. Bruce was just trying to get out of a difficult situation by any means, which just happened to result in the building exploding. Again, I could be wrong, but that's what I remember.
That's really silly if you would believe that. Because there's a difference between dressing up like a bat and doing what Batman does.
Again, I'm speaking in broad terms. I didn't feel like going into an explanation about what Batman does. So I kept it simple.
Like Batman does!
Not really. As I recall, Batman glides in the Nolan films. He doesn't really fly.
I still quote the Dent having no skin thing. Because that's just as implausable as anything else. You know, along with everything else about Batman himself, because it's all just as implausable as everything else that's superhero related.
Not really talking about Dent having no skin. I was talking about how The Dark Knight
has realistic and logical character motivation and character actions, while Batman is also a more realistic super hero than Iron Man and Spider-Man.
I think you're underestimating the fiction part of science-fiction.
Yes, I know that part of the Spider-Man films are science-fiction. What I'm saying though, is that because there's that element of science-fiction in the air, it makes the film seem unrealistic, which is the entire point of what I've been saying.
I'm not nitpicking. I'm making sure you understand what you are saying and clarify your argument correctly. This is why, when making a convincing argument, you don't speak in broad generalities. You ignored the cardinal weakness of the hero: (s)he can only function within his or her own code of ethics, which is more restrictive than the villains. This trope has existed in storytelling for centuries.
The reason I didn't bring up Batman's code of ethics, was because I didn't think I needed to. Everyone knows that Batman doesn't kill people, so I felt like I didn't need to state the obvious.
It's like telling people what 2 plus 2 is, or telling them why they need to breath air. It's something that I feel goes without saying.