The Kamen Rider thread

[Crocodile]

I'm still sorta new to Kamen Rider and have so far watched Den-O, Decade, and Kiva. What are other good KR shows that I should watch?

Go W and OOO, they're a great time to watch.
W is still the best Rider series I have seen yet, though Kuuga is catching up

[shinmattiathekaiju]

I'm still sorta new to Kamen Rider and have so far watched Den-O, Decade, and Kiva. What are other good KR shows that I should watch?

Kamen Rider Black and Black RX.

Watch also the first series and V3 if you like Adam West Batman mixed with Bruce Lee and James Bond.

[HikizuruBeat]

I'm still sorta new to Kamen Rider and have so far watched Den-O, Decade, and Kiva. What are other good KR shows that I should watch?

W and OOO

If you want something darker Kabuto.

For Showa Amazon or Black.

[Crocodile]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M30QDvHS ... re=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D8xBW7VbTQA

W-B-X, and OOOO played on the violin.
Just some neat Rider related stuff

[shinmattiathekaiju]

I really enjoyed W, Is the most Showa-ish of the heisei series:The heroes are Phletibonum rebels,W has a scarf,a skreeoonk scarf, the villains are people turned into monsters,the big bad is a Bond-style villain(without a silly costume,unfortunatly),the only thing missing is cyborgs.

[Crocodile]

the big bad is a Bond-style villain(without a silly costume,unfortunatly),

Sonozaki Ryuubei has more in common with The Kingpin than any bond villian. Also I'd rank W as being just better than any of the showa series.

I'd also say Dopants as far being monsters goes, were a step down from previous villian species (The Worms in particular)

[shinmattiathekaiju]

Also I'd rank W as being just better than any of the showa series.

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I can't hear you.

Also the original Ishinomori manga is better cause is more deep(Hongo and Ichimonji being emo about being different from normal humans and a green aesop)

[SaiyanRider54]

Also I'd rank W as being just better than any of the showa series.

I can't hear you.

Also the original Ishinomori manga is better cause is more deep(Hongo and Ichimonji being emo about being different from normal humans and a green aesop)[/quote]

Just because it isn't a copy and paste of the showa series doesn't mean its not as good.

So what if they aren't the same exact thing as the showa series riders? If you don't like the heisei series then just stick with the showa and stop complaining that its different.

[Crocodile]

Also the original Ishinomori manga is better cause is more deep(Hongo and Ichimonji being emo about being different from normal humans and a green aesop)

No it isn't, they don't come across as deep. They come across as whiney, or just plain annoying. Which is kinda ironic, as this is something Kurenai Wataru's character draws heat for.

Ishinomori wasn't a good enough character writer to write, truly deep characters. He could make them cool, but his characters are honestly kinda flat.

Especially Amazon. I love Amazon, but even after 24 episodes, he's not very well defined as anything other than the "Good guy"

I'd say the best series for defining characters are, W, Faiz, and Kuuga.

[shinmattiathekaiju]

Especially Amazon. I love Amazon, but even after 24 episodes, he's not very well defined as anything other than the "Good guy"

How would you make Amazon then?

[Crocodile]

Especially Amazon. I love Amazon, but even after 24 episodes, he's not very well defined as anything other than the "Good guy"

How would you make Amazon then?

You know things are bad when the narrator has to tell you what the character is thinking.
So I wouldn't have done that, I'd have also made him a little more expressive. Or just not have him grasp full mastery of Japanese out of nowhere.

Yeah Ishinomori did some weird stuff, which thankfully has been abandoned. It's just be ham-fisted, and unwelcome today.

Like I said Amazon as a characer is like a glass of Kool-Aid; enyojable, but flat.

[shinmattiathekaiju]

Especially Amazon. I love Amazon, but even after 24 episodes, he's not very well defined as anything other than the "Good guy"

How would you make Amazon then?

You know things are bad when the narrator has to tell you what the character is thinking.
So I wouldn't have done that, I'd have also made him a little more expressive. Or just not have him grasp full mastery of Japanese out of nowhere.

Yeah Ishinomori did some weird stuff, which thankfully has been abandoned. It's just be ham-fisted, and unwelcome today.

Like I said Amazon as a characer is like a glass of Kool-Aid; enyojable, but flat.

Even Kikaider is flat?

[HikizuruBeat]

I really loved W definitely my favorite rider and series. I have to agree the dopants are a step down from enemies especially from worms. I think the Worms are my favorite enemies because they were really creepy and had no sense of humanity.
Like some of the dopants were pretty goofy.

Also I like how W is the only main heisei rider with a scarf/muffler.

[shinmattiathekaiju]

Ehy guys! Check this out.

http://www.mangareader.net/kamen-rider

[HikizuruBeat]

When I watch more showa riders I have to watch this....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RF6z0OGNrMA

Also got my tatoba a couple days ago.

[Crocodile]

Even Kikaider is flat?

Well I haven't seen Kikaider (At least not the original,the anime remake was decent), but that does remind me, that Cyborg 009 WAS better characterized. I always forget that was also Ishinomori. So yeah 009 is probably his best work, but the his work in Kamen Rider was about creating "cool" characters, not terribly complex, or deep ones.

Though in his defense, they do serve their purpose magnificently.



Some new images from Superhero Taisen

[shinmattiathekaiju]

Cool! I can see Tiger Roid and Sasori Otoko in the pic.

[DaikaijuSokogeki!]

God, they're doing the "Kamen Rider Decade turns evil" angle again? They already did that in All Riders Vs. Great Shocker and The Last Story. Ugh, laaaaame.

[Draglord]

God, they're doing the "Kamen Rider Decade turns evil" angle again? They already did that in All Riders Vs. Great Shocker and The Last Story. Ugh, laaaaame.

I see that as a good thing. I hate Decade and hopefully somebody will destroy him in this movie. That probably won't happen, but I hope it does or at least he gets his ass beaten pretty badly.

[SaiyanRider54]

God, they're doing the "Kamen Rider Decade turns evil" angle again? They already did that in All Riders Vs. Great Shocker and The Last Story. Ugh, laaaaame.

Gokai red from Gokaiger is evil as well. so I guess that evens thing a litte.