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Re: Worst Movie Sequels

Postby wataru » Mon Apr 30, 2012 9:36 am

I dont feel like quoting all your 'arguements'.

Characters dying - yes, it is. Cameron even stated it felt like a slap even in the face.

Burke wasnt a "main" character. He was at most a supporting character. His character had ONE function - get Ripley to LV. That's IT. So he turns out to be a YW trying to get Xenos back to Earth. WHOA! That's new!

Tarantino - my mentioning him being I dont compare movies based on director's who are in charge of them. Ive never looked at a film saying "ZOMG! <Director's Name> DID THIS! I MUST SEE IT! I DONT CARE IF IT'S ABOUT PONIES!" I compare Alien3 to ALIENS. I dont care if Cameron is God and Fincher is a Voodoo priest. It's the WORK Im interested in. But let's be honest here, Scott's movie is going to be better. Looking at both their works respectively, I like alot of what both do. But in respect to the Aliens Franchise, Scott's work is better.

Comparing - YES, you can compare G54 and GvsSG. Who says you cant? Which is a BETTER film? Im going to have to go with G54. Why not compared G54 to GvsB? How about G54 vs GR? YOU CAN and how they stack u as sequels DOES matter.

Brainless gore - I agree with you on AVP:R. I dont know why youre bitching about it. But if you bothered to read the novel, screenplay and background on A:R, the gore makes sense. Do so and get back to me. If you dont, then dont comment.
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Re: Worst Movie Sequels

Postby UltramanGoji » Mon Apr 30, 2012 9:46 am

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Re: Worst Movie Sequels

Postby Goji » Mon Apr 30, 2012 9:50 am

RESURRECTION sucks ass, so no, I've never bothered with the novel, or screenplay. Why would I? It's one of the most pointless sequels ever made, and I was extremely disappointed when I walked out of that theater in 1997. Repeated viewings don't help. Other than the art direction, cinematography, and SPX, it just gets worse every time that I watch it.

What exactly am I bitching about? You complained about the "mindless gore", which made no sense. Key word, you. You're now turning it around, and claiming that I'm bitching. skreeonk amazing.

Carter Burke was more involved in the plot of ALIENS than any of the prisoners of Fiorina, save for maybe Dillon, and Clemens, who was killed off far too early. The line between main/supporting character is pretty thin, frankly.

As cliche as it sounds, arguing with you is equal to yelling at a brick wall, so yeah. I'm done.
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Re: Worst Movie Sequels

Postby Legionmaster » Mon Apr 30, 2012 9:55 am

Goji wrote:Carter Burke was more involved in the plot of ALIENS than any of the prisoners of Fiorina

Burke is, in fact, the main antagonist of the film.
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Re: Worst Movie Sequels

Postby Hellspawn28 » Mon Apr 30, 2012 10:10 am

I still rather watch A:R and AVP over AVPR since AVPR to me is still the worst movie in the series. I was very disappointed with AVPR since the directors really hype up the film by making AVPR going back to the roots. The movie had some of the worst acting that I ever seen on film and making the movie a slasher was a bad idea. Friday the 13th never had many good characters to begin with and so it's okay for movies like Friday the 13th to have watch them get killed for fun. While the first two Alien films and Predator had great characters that you love and care for. In AVPR, you don't give a damn about any of them and most of the human characters are just rip offed from other movies.
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Re: Worst Movie Sequels

Postby Gyaos » Mon Apr 30, 2012 10:15 am

Transformers Revenge of the Fallen and Transformers Dark of the Moon.

Im sure I've said several times why I dislike DOTM because of how disrespectfully some of the characters are killed off, how overpowered the heros are, and how so much potential was destroyed. Honestly, they should have stuck to the original script for the movie. Bay got it right with the first movie. Megatron and the Decepticons where actually a big threat to the Autobots. The human characters where tolerable (Much better than those of ROTF).

ROTF tried too hard to appeal to teenages audiences. The robots are constantly farting, spewing sexual innuendos, and being as racially sterotypical as humanly (or robotically) possible. I mean, I'll watch it cause the action sequences are awesome (Forest Battle anyone?) but anything other than that is boring. The Fallen was woefully underused. In the G1 comics he was the embodyment of death and destruction and could "Unmake creation at will". Canonly the Fallen is a Multiversal Singularity, meaning all versions of him in the multiverse are the same. So why the hell isnt The Fallen erasing people from existance in the movie? Oh right, cause Bay explicitly said he didnt like The Fallen as a character. Which begs to ask why would you put a character you dont like in the film? I guess it was because of the Writers Strike back then, I dunno, but regardless The Fallen was the biggest waste of potential next to DOTM's story.
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Re: Worst Movie Sequels

Postby Shadow » Mon Apr 30, 2012 10:31 am

Anaconda 3 and up was just terrible, it doesn't even look like a anaconda anymore, acting is shit even if David Hasslehoff is in it. The plot makes no sense to me what so ever. Even the snake is horrible, I've seen better in stop-motion than this abomination.
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Re: Worst Movie Sequels

Postby wataru » Mon Apr 30, 2012 11:52 am

Goji wrote:RESURRECTION sucks ass, so no, I've never bothered with the novel, or screenplay. Why would I? It's one of the most pointless sequels ever made, and I was extremely disappointed when I walked out of that theater in 1997. Repeated viewings don't help. Other than the art direction, cinematography, and SPX, it just gets worse every time that I watch it.

What exactly am I bitching about? You complained about the "mindless gore", which made no sense. Key word, you. You're now turning it around, and claiming that I'm bitching. skreeonk amazing.

Carter Burke was more involved in the plot of ALIENS than any of the prisoners of Fiorina, save for maybe Dillon, and Clemens, who was killed off far too early. The line between main/supporting character is pretty thin, frankly.

As cliche as it sounds, arguing with you is equal to yelling at a brick wall, so yeah. I'm done.


Im sorry, you have ZERO footing when you dont even bother to research a movie and then claim it sucks ass. For shame for trying to come off elitist.

And your fairweather fan opinion of the inmates bolsters my statement that the characters are flat. Thank you.

I win.
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Re: Worst Movie Sequels

Postby Legionmaster » Mon Apr 30, 2012 11:57 am

wataru wrote:Im sorry, you have ZERO footing when you dont even bother to research a movie and then claim it sucks ass. For shame for trying to come off elitist.

wat

I don't have to do any more than watch a movie to decide if it sucks or not. :/
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Re: Worst Movie Sequels

Postby Goji » Mon Apr 30, 2012 1:44 pm

Wow...I'm actually at a loss for words. I really am. "You win"? What is this, skreeonk kindergarten?

I know plenty about the production of RESURRECTION, and have been an Alien fan for 20 years. I've seen it several times, and am perfectly capable of pointing out why it's bad, if you want me to write you an essay, that is. I know what the skreeonk I'm talking about. Stop being a little (big?) bitch about it. Seriously, your retort doesn't even make any sense whatsoever.

You're acting all butt hurt because I don't like A:R, which is hilarious. I could give two shits about what you, much less anyone thinks about ALIEN 3. It's just an opinion. Yet here you are..getting all worked up over nothing. Get. The skreeonk. Over it.

Aaannnnnndd, back to the shit list you go.
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Re: Worst Movie Sequels

Postby Hellspawn28 » Mon Apr 30, 2012 1:53 pm

I'm going to add Ghost Rider: Spirit of Vengeance on my worst sequel list. While some view it as a reboot but I have remember seeing interviews from the directors and David S. Goyer saying that the movie is still a sequel to the first movie. GR2 was so dull and dry. None of the action scenes had any enjoyment and all of the characters had no development out of them. GR2 was the worst movie of 2012 so far, I rather watch The Phantom Menace over GR2.
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Re: Worst Movie Sequels

Postby Ethan » Tue May 01, 2012 2:41 pm

I'm shocked nobody has mentioned The Concorde... Airport '79. Contrary to most saga declines, there's a radical departure in quality from the first 3 films. All character development and verisimilitude is replaced by terrible special effects, illogical stunts, and a horny George Kennedy. It's fun, in a train wreck (or plane crash?) sort of way.
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Re: Worst Movie Sequels

Postby wataru » Tue May 01, 2012 4:23 pm

Hellspawn28 wrote:I'm going to add Ghost Rider: Spirit of Vengeance on my worst sequel list. While some view it as a reboot but I have remember seeing interviews from the directors and David S. Goyer saying that the movie is still a sequel to the first movie. GR2 was so dull and dry. None of the action scenes had any enjoyment and all of the characters had no development out of them. GR2 was the worst movie of 2012 so far, I rather watch The Phantom Menace over GR2.


The movie spent it's entire budget on like 3 scenes and Nicholas Cage. The writing was done over a weekend at a Motel 6 in Laguna Beach, CA with a box of wine and Hungry Man dinners.
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Re: Worst Movie Sequels

Postby SoleMan » Wed May 02, 2012 4:53 am

Oh Jesus, I forgot about Ghsot Rider 2. Christ, I remember thinking: I don't want to go see this, I don't want to go see this...and then I went and saw it for some weird reason, and it blew like Rosie O'Donnal. And I LIKED the first one, it was cool. But, I can at least say I saw a terrible movie in the theater, something I don't normally do.

Also, Thanks Wataru. You answered why people don't like Alien 3. I could argue about it, but it would be pointless. (And I don't mean that sarcastically, it's genuine)
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Re: Worst Movie Sequels

Postby Kiryu2012 » Wed May 02, 2012 6:03 am

Anything after Jaws 2. Jaws 3D and The Revenge just ruin the feel of terror and just make it cheesy and stupid.
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Re: Worst Movie Sequels

Postby GotengoXGodzilla » Wed May 02, 2012 11:53 am

Hellspawn28 wrote:I'm going to add Ghost Rider: Spirit of Vengeance on my worst sequel list. While some view it as a reboot but I have remember seeing interviews from the directors and David S. Goyer saying that the movie is still a sequel to the first movie. GR2 was so dull and dry. None of the action scenes had any enjoyment and all of the characters had no development out of them. GR2 was the worst movie of 2012 so far, I rather watch The Phantom Menace over GR2.


Ghost Rider: Spirit Of Vengeance is awesome! It's a steaming pile of shit, but it's an awesome steaming pile of shit! I can't say that it's one of the worst sequels, when it's so enjoyably bad. If you don't take the film seriously and just see it as a fun ride, then you'll get your money's worth and then some. I can't take any Nicholas Cage film seriously after watching this video, and Ghost Rider 2 was no exception:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xP1-oquw ... plpp_video

Also, when I think of the idea of "worst movie sequels", that implies that the first movie was actually good. Ghost Rider sucks. So I don't really think Ghost Rider: Spirit Of Vengeance deserves to be on that list in the first place, even if the film does suck. Ghost Rider: Spirit Of Vengeance is a "So bad, it's good" movie. There are lots of problems with it, but those problems are what makes the film so enjoyable to watch.
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Re: Worst Movie Sequels

Postby wataru » Wed May 02, 2012 2:01 pm

GRSoV won where GR failed. GR won where GSoV failed.

Honestly, someone needs to edit GR and remove ALL the elements of the angel elementals and put in the fight scenes from GR2.
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Re: Worst Movie Sequels

Postby Hellspawn28 » Wed May 02, 2012 2:08 pm

GR2 was not even it's so bad that it's good level. The movie was boring and the action was so unsatisfied to watch. The movie had hardly any enjoyment out of it and the story was very weak. I didn't walk into the second movie hoping for a good or great film but I did hope for a movie that was mindless fun. While the first movie was bad but at least it had some fun moments that made me think "That was pretty awesome!".
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Re: Worst Movie Sequels

Postby wataru » Wed May 02, 2012 2:10 pm

If you threw The Omen and Ghost Rider into a blender, you'd get GRSoV. But the mixing has elminated the goodness from both movies.
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Re: Worst Movie Sequels

Postby SoleMan » Thu May 03, 2012 3:48 pm

I forgot to mention that I did like the one scene in GR2 where he put the kid on his motorcycle and drove around with him. It was a sweet moment, even if Ghost Rider is supposed to be Bad-Ass.
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