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Re: Worst Movie Sequels

Postby Kaiju-King42 » Sat Apr 28, 2012 11:05 pm

SoleMan wrote:Did anybody bring up The Matrix Sequels? I used to say they were the worst movies ever made...


I'm one of the few that likes the second one, but I'd have to agree with you on the third. As for me, the worst movie sequel I ever saw was Alien 3. I dunno, it never clicked with me.
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Re: Worst Movie Sequels

Postby JVM » Sat Apr 28, 2012 11:17 pm

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Halloween 2(1981) was a fun slasher film, though.


Agreed. I feel like Halloween II is over look just like Star Trek III: The Search for Spock was. Halloween II was a decent sequel and I think people didn't like it because it was not as fresh as the first movie. H20 was the last good Halloween sequel in my opinion and that Halloween 6 is the worst in the series. Halloween III may suck but I rather watch that over Halloween 6 and Halloween: Resurrection.

I don't know what you're talking about, most Horror fans I know love the original Halloween II. It's been a while since I've been around those parts. But yeah, general consensus is everything after 4 sucks except H20.
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Re: Worst Movie Sequels

Postby Goji » Sun Apr 29, 2012 4:20 am

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Agreed. I feel like Halloween II is over look just like Star Trek III: The Search for Spock was. Halloween II was a decent sequel and I think people didn't like it because it was not as fresh as the first movie. H20 was the last good Halloween sequel in my opinion and that Halloween 6 is the worst in the series. Halloween III may suck but I rather watch that over Halloween 6 and Halloween: Resurrection.


HALLOWEEN:RESURRECTION is much, much, much worse than the sixth film.

H20 may be somewhat watchable, but it too is still pretty bad.
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Re: Worst Movie Sequels

Postby SoleMan » Sun Apr 29, 2012 6:33 am

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SoleMan wrote:Did anybody bring up The Matrix Sequels? I used to say they were the worst movies ever made...

Other than that, pretty much every Halloween sequel, Batman and Robin, and the Attack of the Clones. There's probably more, but I'm lazy and don't want to think of them.


Halloween 2(1981) was a fun slasher film, though.


I'll give you Halloween II, it's just that part of what I liked about the original Halloween was that there was no real closure to the story, like you felt the killer was still out there, waiting...and I forgot about Halloween III, which was easily the second best. But yeah, everything else was garbage. Total, unforgivable, garbage.
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Re: Worst Movie Sequels

Postby Hellspawn28 » Sun Apr 29, 2012 8:01 am

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HALLOWEEN:RESURRECTION is much, much, much worse than the sixth film.

H20 may be somewhat watchable, but it too is still pretty bad.


I remember watching H6 on TV years ago and the movie was a total mess. The story in H6 is pathetic and ended the series poorly until they reboot it with H20. With HR that you can get a good laugh out of it and try to do something original with the series.
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Re: Worst Movie Sequels

Postby Goji » Sun Apr 29, 2012 8:22 am

H6 was butchered by the studio, which is why it barely made any sense (ALIEN 3 suffered a similar fate). There is an alternate version of it floating around, but Dimension doesn't seem to care to release it officially. It sucks, but I'd still rather watch it over RESURRECTION, which is one of the worst movies I've ever seen.

I don't think of H20 as a reboot...It's basically a sequel to the first two films. Rob Zombie's film is the only one I'd call a reboot.
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Re: Worst Movie Sequels

Postby Crazy Jim Films » Sun Apr 29, 2012 5:49 pm

SoleMan wrote: I'll give you Halloween II, it's just that part of what I liked about the original Halloween was that there was no real closure to the story, like you felt the killer was still out there, waiting...and I forgot about Halloween III, which was easily the second best. But yeah, everything else was garbage. Total, unforgivable, garbage.

I'd say the fourth movie works better than the second one but they're all much lesser films. Halloween really didn't need any sequels and the second one falls apart due to the script not really having a coherent direction. There is this nice opening with Michael moving through the neighborhood as the horrified community learns about the murders but once they move into the hospital setting, there really isn't too much that matches the first fifteen or so minutes. It's basically a standard slasher film on auto-pilot at that point. Fun but extremely pointless and the sister twist completetly ruins the story.
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Re: Worst Movie Sequels

Postby JVM » Mon Apr 30, 2012 12:40 am

I think one thing people need to keep in mind about Halloween 6 is there's multiple different versions of the movie. The theatrical cut, a DVD cut, the Producer's cut, and I think there's more than one TV cut. Producer's Cut is supposed to be the best.
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Re: Worst Movie Sequels

Postby SoleMan » Mon Apr 30, 2012 4:18 am

Why do people not like Alien 3? I once saw a video that claimed it was the best, because it added depth to the series, as where the other two were just "genre" films that were extremely well done. While I disagree with this, I did like Alien 3, and the sense of closure it added to the story. Ripley is killed by the thing that has come to define her life, and it has the final voice-over from the original film at its close.

Now Alien Resurrection is another story...
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Re: Worst Movie Sequels

Postby Goji » Mon Apr 30, 2012 5:05 am

I love both cuts of ALIEN 3, personally..



Please, for the love of god don't let spiritghidorah see any of this. Dude is like a broken record when it comes to how much he hates the film.
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Re: Worst Movie Sequels

Postby UltramanGoji » Mon Apr 30, 2012 8:02 am

Goji wrote:I love both cuts of ALIEN 3, personally..



Please, for the love of god don't let spiritghidorah see any of this. Dude is like a broken record when it comes to how much he hates the film.


Too late. :D
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Re: Worst Movie Sequels

Postby wataru » Mon Apr 30, 2012 8:14 am

Alien3 is a glorious, boring mess that spits in Cameron's face and tries hard to be Scott-esque in style and execution. It fails horribly. The film has ZERO jump moments, introduces and kills characters with no depth. Hell Burk from Aliens was more memorable.

When people toss in A:R has bad in comparison to Alien 3 I want to take out the steel tipped boots and goto nutkicking town. The Baby scenes at the end of A:R were more gorey, gritty and suspenseful then anything in Alien3. I will admit for the franchise A:R is a bit of a step down, favoring more sarcastic anti-hero characters and guns then grit, horror and suspense, but at least it's not unfanthomly boring 80% of the time like Alien3.

...dont get me started on AVP and AVP:R. I prefer AVP:R over AVP but AVP:R is all about the gore factor and Predator ass-kickery over story.

Im glad Prometheus is coming out and Scott is at the helm. The 2:55m trailer is 9000x better then all 114m of Alien3. Going to get back to suspenseful, tense, unseen monster goodness with HUMAN drama and not brainless gore, guns and flat 2D Alien3 characters.
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Re: Worst Movie Sequels

Postby Goji » Mon Apr 30, 2012 8:34 am

UltramanGoji wrote:Too late. :D


? Too late for what, exactly?

wataru wrote:Alien3 is a glorious, boring mess that spits in Cameron's face and tries hard to be Scott-esque in style and execution. It fails horribly. The film has ZERO jump moments, introduces and kills characters with no depth. Hell Burk from Aliens was more memorable.


How the hell does it "spit in Cameron's face"? It does nothing of the sort. Fincher wasn't trying to '1-up' Cameron's film in the first place.

Burke and Ripley were of course more memorable, because they were more integral to the plot. One of them was the main character, for Christ sake. Most of the characters in ALIEN 3 are the inmates of Fiorina 161. Some of which we barely get to see in the theatrical cut.

Im glad Prometheus is coming out and Scott is at the helm. The 2:55m trailer is 9000x better then all 114m of Alien3. Going to get back to suspenseful, tense, unseen monster goodness with HUMAN drama and not brainless gore, guns and flat 2D Alien3 characters.


Hyperbole at it's finest. Ridley Scott is considered one of the best American directors of all time, and ALIEN, is considered one of the best examples of American cinema, especially science fiction. Comparing Fincher's butchered work to his doesn't seem particularly fair, nor does it really make any sense other than their part of the same franchise.

You want "brainless gore", watch AvP:R. I didn't realize xenomorph's had to kill people in an intelligent fashion to appeal to you, wataru. They're killers. This is what they do. Should they strike up a conversation with their victims first? Maybe grab a drink before puncturing their cranium? Would that satisfy you?
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Re: Worst Movie Sequels

Postby wataru » Mon Apr 30, 2012 8:45 am

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How the hell does it "spit in Cameron's face"? It does nothing of the sort. Fincher wasn't trying to '1-up' Cameron's film in the first place.


How about killing Bishop, Newt & Hicks?

Burke and Ripley were of course more memorable, because they were more integral to the plot. One of them was the main character, for Christ sake. Most of the characters in ALIEN 3 are the inmates of Fiorina 161. Some of which we barely get to see in the theatrical cut.


I mentioned Burke, not Ripley as more memorable then anyone in Alien3. Funny how one film (ALIENS) can produce more memorable characters then another (Alien3)? With someone like Whittaker, Im very shocked. Even Cameron's fodder was more interesting. I cared more about Drake then I did about ANY inmate.

Hyperbole at it's finest. Ridley Scott is considered one of the best American directors of all time, and ALIEN, is considered one of the best examples of American cinema, especially science fiction. Comparing Fincher's butchered work to his doesn't seem particularly fair, nor does it really make any sense other than their part of the same franchise.


The only films Ive ever watched based on director are Tarantino's films. I consider story better over direction and the story for Alien3 is crap. Not fair? Im sorry, theyre part of the same franchise. It's not fair to compare films in the same franchise? Sorry, that's ridiculous.

You want "brainless gore", watch AvP:R.?


If you read my previous post, I DID mention it.
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Re: Worst Movie Sequels

Postby Legionmaster » Mon Apr 30, 2012 8:47 am

Goji wrote:You want "brainless gore", watch AvP:R. I didn't realize xenomorph's had to kill people in an intelligent fashion to appeal to you, wataru. They're killers. This is what they do. Should they strike up a conversation with their victims first? Maybe grab a drink before puncturing their cranium? Would that satisfy you?

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Re: Worst Movie Sequels

Postby UltramanGoji » Mon Apr 30, 2012 9:01 am

Goji wrote:
UltramanGoji wrote:Too late. :D


? Too late for what, exactly?



Nevermind. It was supposed to mean that I sent SG your post in a PM.
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Re: Worst Movie Sequels

Postby Spirit Ghidorah 2010 » Mon Apr 30, 2012 9:10 am

^ I didn't get any PM.

Oh, and Alien 3 sucks.
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Re: Worst Movie Sequels

Postby Hellspawn28 » Mon Apr 30, 2012 9:19 am

Goji wrote:
I don't think of H20 as a reboot...It's basically a sequel to the first two films. Rob Zombie's film is the only one I'd call a reboot.


H20 was a direct sequel to the first movie and ignores the movies after the first movie. Most people view it as a reboot and Rob Zombie's Halloween movie was a remake not a reboot.
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Re: Worst Movie Sequels

Postby wataru » Mon Apr 30, 2012 9:23 am

H20 is a sequel to Halloween. It's just not a sequel to Halloween 2 on. Like how Superman Returns is a sequel to Superman II (NOT the Donner Crap...err Cut).

Spider-Man 3 is a sequel to Spider-Man 2 AND Spider-Man.

H20 really isnt a reboot.
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Re: Worst Movie Sequels

Postby Goji » Mon Apr 30, 2012 9:25 am

UltramanGoji wrote:
Nevermind. It was supposed to mean that I sent SG your post in a PM.


Gee, thanks. :roll: Now that horse will be beat to a even bloodier pulp.

wataru wrote:
How about killing Bishop, Newt & Hicks?


Worst thing about ALIEN 3, by far. Though I fail to see how this is (even indirectly) "spitting in Cameron's face". Maybe this is simply a case of you needing to be a little less hyperbolic in your responses..or is that too much to ask from you?

I mentioned Burke, not Ripley as more memorable then anyone in Alien3. Funny how one film (ALIENS) can produce more memorable characters then another (Alien3)? With someone like Whittaker, Im very shocked. Even Cameron's fodder was more interesting. I cared more about Drake then I did about ANY inmate.


I don't think you were really supposed to "care" about any of them anyway. Again, of course Burke is more memorable. He's one of the main characters. How many times do I have to skreeonk repeat myself here?

The only films Ive ever watched based on director are Tarantino's films.


Okay..and? You're still comparing an American classic to a film that has a small following, and is generally disliked by critics and most fans.

Not fair? Im sorry, theyre part of the same franchise.


Nawwwww, really? I just said that.

ALIEN 3 is nothing like ALIEN or ALIENS. They all feature Ripley, they're all part of the same story, and all feature xenomorph's. The similarities really end there. They're all unique in their own way.

I suppose it's fair to compare tripe like SPACEGODZILLA to GODZILLA ('54) because they're "part of the same franchise?" They're nothing alike.

f you read my previous post, I DID mention it.


No shit. This isn't a case of selective reading. I'm pointing out your ridiculous complaint about "brainless gore" being a detriment to ALIEN 3 exclusively. RESURRECTION and AVP:R both feature the same 'problem'. You're just finding things to complain about because you (evidently) hate the film so passionately.
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