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Re: Anime and Manga disscussion

Postby Rody » Thu Mar 28, 2019 7:41 pm

^It's been six years since I watched it, so all I can tell you is: brace yourself! :lol: It's definitely a very involved, very intense ride.

I haven't watched The Big O yet, but you could do a trial of HIDIVE and stream the whole series through there, before you purchase.

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Re: Anime and Manga disscussion

Postby cloverfan98 » Fri Mar 29, 2019 10:02 am

Titanoterror98 wrote:Well, I'm finally gonna do it. I'm gonna man up and get in the fracking robot.

Yep, I'm actually getting into Evangelion. Not just viewing clips or reading about it online, or watching snarky internet reviewers. No, I'm going to face my fears and actually watch the original series and the Rebuild movies, and read the manga.

Wish me luck, fellas.


I like it. I think. Maybe. I'm not sure. I finished the series and have yet to watch the last two movies but I'll probably wait to see those when Netflix adds the whole series and re watch the whole thing. Of course the whole ending stuff is what tends to keep me from fully embracing it but one thing I hate is when people rag on Shinji and just call him whiny and crap like that. Maybe its because I myself have depression and have had "friends" in the past who turned out to be anything but that I can relate to Shinji. Although if I was Shinji I think I would violently attacked the father.

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Re: Anime and Manga disscussion

Postby Titanoterror98 » Fri Mar 29, 2019 3:47 pm

Rody wrote:^It's been six years since I watched it, so all I can tell you is: brace yourself! :lol: It's definitely a very involved, very intense ride.

I haven't watched The Big O yet, but you could do a trial of HIDIVE and stream the whole series through there, before you purchase.


Thanks, mate! I know the risks and I'm ready to face them. I just started the manga (thanks to my cousin's collection) and I like it so far. Of course it'll go to skreeonk in the end, but I'll enjoy the ride as best I can. Plus, if I need something to recuperate, I have an excuse to watch SSSS.Gridman and Gurren Lagann again! :huge:

And thanks for the tip on Big O! (Although, I may or may not have found some other way to watch it... :ninja: )

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cloverfan98 wrote:I like it. I think. Maybe. I'm not sure. I finished the series and have yet to watch the last two movies but I'll probably wait to see those when Netflix adds the whole series and re watch the whole thing. Of course the whole ending stuff is what tends to keep me from fully embracing it but one thing I hate is when people rag on Shinji and just call him whiny and crap like that. Maybe its because I myself have depression and have had "friends" in the past who turned out to be anything but that I can relate to Shinji. Although if I was Shinji I think I would violently attacked the father.

^This^

I'm one of those folks that believe Shinji gets too much flack. I mean, yes, it's frustrating when all your lead does is be scared out of their minds or feel sorry for themselves, but dangit can you blame him? The kid's abandoned by his father for a decade and only brings him back to fight a war with living nightmares with 0 concern for his safety, his friends are varying degrees of horrible, and that their relationships breakdown because they can't over themselves either. Although I don't have it near as bad as him or you, cloverfan, there are times when I can relate to Shinji myself; there are times when I can't help but wonder if anyone needs me or if they really like me. Luckily, I'm blessed with a caring family and I have yet to meet anyone who holds me in contempt.

Not gonna lie, though. I don't think I have it in me to make it all the way through End of Evangelion.
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Postby cloverfan98 » Fri Mar 29, 2019 6:39 pm

I haven't seen EoE in full so mountain of salt here, but I just don't get why all the bat crap crazy happens. It really doesn't feel like a natural continuation of the series or it's world. It just feels like random insanity for no reason at all and that doesn't translate to a good film to me especially if its a chapter in an ongoing series. If it was an original film than I could enjoy it as an animated mind trip but as a chapter in a story it makes no sense.

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Postby Rody » Sun Mar 31, 2019 3:39 pm

Count me in the camp who never understood the hate for Shinji. It's blatantly obvious from the first episode on that Shinji is a troubled kid dropped into a bizarre situation, and there are no rose-tinted glasses on regarding the hazards of piloting giant "robot" to fight monsters. Shinji is sympathetic.

I, too, was frustrated and confused by EoE when I saw it. Tidbits of it made sense, but there's just SO MUCH that happens SO SUDDENLY, I just couldn't process it. I look forward to revisiting it this summer, though.


In other anime news, the April Fools announcements are going strong this year; I think everyone here can appreciate this one for the next My Hero Academia film:
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Re: Anime and Manga disscussion

Postby Titanoterror98 » Mon Apr 01, 2019 5:36 pm

cloverfan98 wrote:I haven't seen EoE in full so mountain of salt here, but I just don't get why all the bat crap crazy happens. It really doesn't feel like a natural continuation of the series or it's world. It just feels like random insanity for no reason at all and that doesn't translate to a good film to me especially if its a chapter in an ongoing series. If it was an original film than I could enjoy it as an animated mind trip but as a chapter in a story it makes no sense.


My thoughts exactly. A mixed media horror movie that showcases the end of the world and all the messed up folk in it could work, but just not as the end of a series that looked (for the most part) put together well.
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Postby MikeSTZillak » Mon Apr 01, 2019 5:41 pm

Just thought I post this here, Perfect Blue has been released on Blu-Ray: https://www.amazon.com/Perfect-Blue-Bluray-Combo-Blu-ray/dp/B07L5DTDLG
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Postby Titanoterror98 » Mon Apr 01, 2019 5:43 pm

Rody wrote:Count me in the camp who never understood the hate for Shinji. It's blatantly obvious from the first episode on that Shinji is a troubled kid dropped into a bizarre situation, and there are no rose-tinted glasses on regarding the hazards of piloting giant "robot" to fight monsters. Shinji is sympathetic.

I, too, was frustrated and confused by EoE when I saw it. Tidbits of it made sense, but there's just SO MUCH that happens SO SUDDENLY, I just couldn't process it. I look forward to revisiting it this summer, though.


In other anime news, the April Fools announcements are going strong this year; I think everyone here can appreciate this one for the next My Hero Academia film:
http://heroaca-movie.com/
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Good to know you're on the side of "people with common sense and a heart" as well, my friend. Regardless of how well EoE works as a finale, I'm still not sure if I can get myself to watch it, mostly because 1) I'm super squemish and this where the gore is at an alltime series-high, and 2) I live with my parents and if they caught me watching it they would be... equally disturbed to, say the least.

I'm curious though--how does the manga version of the ending compare?

(Also I have yet to get into BNHA/MHA, but a Bakugo kaiju film sounds perfect)
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Re: Anime and Manga disscussion

Postby MikeSTZillak » Mon Apr 01, 2019 5:45 pm

cloverfan98 wrote:I haven't seen EoE in full so mountain of salt here, but I just don't get why all the bat crap crazy happens. It really doesn't feel like a natural continuation of the series or it's world. It just feels like random insanity for no reason at all and that doesn't translate to a good film to me especially if its a chapter in an ongoing series. If it was an original film than I could enjoy it as an animated mind trip but as a chapter in a story it makes no sense.

The director's cut of episodes 21-24 better set up the film. Episodes 25 and 26 are not considered canon.
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Re: Anime and Manga disscussion

Postby Rody » Mon Apr 01, 2019 5:50 pm

^Yeah, the final two episodes of the TV show are, so I understand, more of a last-minute alternative ending to EoE, which was the original intended ending but couldn't get properly realized on the show's imploding schedule and budget.

The manga version slightly less explicitly violent, a few characters have adjusted parts - but most importantly, at the very end we get a more decisive, and optimistic, resolution. I think it's better appreciated when compared with the film, however (just my 2 cents).

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Re: Anime and Manga disscussion

Postby Titanoterror98 » Mon Apr 01, 2019 6:37 pm

Rody wrote:^Yeah, the final two episodes of the TV show are, so I understand, more of a last-minute alternative ending to EoE, which was the original intended ending but couldn't get properly realized on the show's imploding schedule and budget.

The manga version slightly less explicitly violent, a few characters have adjusted parts - but most importantly, at the very end we get a more decisive, and optimistic, resolution. I think it's better appreciated when compared with the film, however (just my 2 cents).


Decisive? Optimistic? That's everything I look for in an ending! Heck, I'll read it just to see a scenario where Evangelion actually ends on a happy note! :tearsofjoy:

As for the anime, I'll probably watch those infamous last two episodes just for kicks and then skip ahead to the Rebuild movies.
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Postby MikeSTZillak » Mon Apr 01, 2019 7:33 pm

Titanoterror98 wrote:As for the anime, I'll probably watch those infamous last two episodes just for kicks and then skip ahead to the Rebuild movies.

Watch The End Of Evangelion after the series. It's one wild ride.
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Postby LegendZilla » Mon Apr 01, 2019 8:03 pm

MikeSTZillak wrote:
Titanoterror98 wrote:As for the anime, I'll probably watch those infamous last two episodes just for kicks and then skip ahead to the Rebuild movies.

Watch The End Of Evangelion after the series. It's one wild ride.


Or an overrated bore fest.
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Postby Maverick Centigrade » Mon Apr 01, 2019 8:10 pm

Been a long time since I've been into Evangelion. I was SUPER SUPER SUPER into it back in 2005 and 2006. Then as the went on I just lost interest in the whole franchise. Never went back to it.
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Postby xolta » Mon Apr 01, 2019 11:54 pm

Any one esle here reading part 8 of jojo? Kinda want peoples thoughts on it.

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Postby Titanoterror98 » Tue Apr 02, 2019 8:02 am

LegendZilla wrote:
MikeSTZillak wrote:
Titanoterror98 wrote:As for the anime, I'll probably watch those infamous last two episodes just for kicks and then skip ahead to the Rebuild movies.

Watch The End Of Evangelion after the series. It's one wild ride.


Or an overrated bore fest.


Between the boring parts and the gory parts, I'm definitely gonna give it a pass. Sorry. :(
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Postby MikeSTZillak » Tue Apr 02, 2019 11:09 am

LegendZilla wrote:
MikeSTZillak wrote:
Titanoterror98 wrote:As for the anime, I'll probably watch those infamous last two episodes just for kicks and then skip ahead to the Rebuild movies.

Watch The End Of Evangelion after the series. It's one wild ride.


Or an overrated bore fest.

Aren't you that guy who keeps saying KOTM is going to flop?

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MikeSTZillak wrote:Watch The End Of Evangelion after the series. It's one wild ride.


Or an overrated bore fest.


Between the boring parts and the gory parts, I'm definitely gonna give it a pass. Sorry. :(

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Postby MorgansTShirt » Tue Apr 02, 2019 11:26 am

I think End of Eva has a spectacular climactic scene, and much of the film is visually and emotionally impressive, but overall I find it uneven and somewhat difficult to enjoy, and sometimes artificial or try-hard in terms of edginess.

I dislike the camp that says Eva should be a typical story about a gung-ho shonen protag who does awesome things in a robot, but at the same time I think Eva's plot and characters can be too esoteric for its own good. Overall I think the series is okay, but uneven and worshipped by a largely hypocritical fanbase, but it has much higher artistic integrity than a lot of anime series.

I'd been watching a lot of popular anime these last few years, even supposed classics like Dragon Ball, Gurren Lagann, and even slice of life romances. They can be entertaining, but I think most of them are horribly overrated, haha. Eva was a breath of fresh air, but that too is often overrated.

Maybe what I can take away from this is that anime itself is overrated.
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Re: Anime and Manga disscussion

Postby Titanoterror98 » Sun Apr 07, 2019 8:36 am

MorgansTShirt wrote:I think End of Eva has a spectacular climactic scene, and much of the film is visually and emotionally impressive, but overall I find it uneven and somewhat difficult to enjoy, and sometimes artificial or try-hard in terms of edginess.

I dislike the camp that says Eva should be a typical story about a gung-ho shonen protag who does awesome things in a robot, but at the same time I think Eva's plot and characters can be too esoteric for its own good. Overall I think the series is okay, but uneven and worshipped by a largely hypocritical fanbase, but it has much higher artistic integrity than a lot of anime series.

I'd been watching a lot of popular anime these last few years, even supposed classics like Dragon Ball, Gurren Lagann, and even slice of life romances. They can be entertaining, but I think most of them are horribly overrated, haha. Eva was a breath of fresh air, but that too is often overrated.

Maybe what I can take away from this is that anime itself is overrated.


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Postby GodzillaFan1990's » Sun Apr 07, 2019 9:53 am

So down the road eventually due to still having plenty of anime I have to still watch I'm gonna give One Punch Man. So I just wanted to ask in your guys opinion but how good is the show?


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