Ridley Scott's "Prometheus" (2012)

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Re: Ridley Scott's "Prometheus" (2012)

Postby Tyler » Mon Jul 02, 2012 5:55 pm

Goji wrote:
Legionmaster wrote:I wasn't aware that fan art constituted a legitimate theory.


That's funny, I was going to say something similar.

Much like the Minya evolutionary pic that showed up in G-fan, fan-made stuff can't be considered canon.


This is cool as hell though
http://i.imgur.com/AqLaR.jpg
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Re: Ridley Scott's "Prometheus" (2012)

Postby Kiryu2012 » Mon Jul 02, 2012 5:58 pm

Tyler wrote:
Goji wrote:
Legionmaster wrote:I wasn't aware that fan art constituted a legitimate theory.


That's funny, I was going to say something similar.

Much like the Minya evolutionary pic that showed up in G-fan, fan-made stuff can't be considered canon.


This is cool as hell though
http://i.imgur.com/AqLaR.jpg

I've seen that pic. Epic stuff.
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Re: Ridley Scott's "Prometheus" (2012)

Postby GojiFan » Mon Jul 02, 2012 6:25 pm

Tyler wrote:
This is cool as hell though
http://i.imgur.com/AqLaR.jpg
The Queen is a little too small and the Praetorian a little too big, but other wise it is very cool.
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Re: Ridley Scott's "Prometheus" (2012)

Postby Terrier » Mon Jul 02, 2012 7:16 pm

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Terrier wrote:It seems it's not about watching a movie anymore, but about the movie being what the viewer wants...


Yeah, and you're defending this position. (Or at least you were) If you have lots of ambiguity, it serves to create the movie you want to see. You want an objective movie? Write something with some definitive answers, don't jerk us around like a cheap handjob.


There is a contrast between exploring the possibilities a movie offers and out-right antagonising it because it didn't match the ideas one had before seeing it, like the movie being an Alien prequel and other shit like that.

While at it, people might take advantage of the movie being perceived as stupid and full of flaws, and make it look like they are actually criticizing it, not caring if their points are actually valid. And if they are proved wrong it's just a matter of blaming the movie for making them have to figure it out, or dismiss the people who defend it by calling them stupid for defending it or.. whatever.



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Now, previously I made a theory on the cause of the death of the Ingeneers being the Hammerpedes. After watching the movie again, I think I have a different theory:

Remember when the crew opens the helmet of the decapitated Space Jockey, they mention and show that there are "changing cells" or something on the top of the head. When the Ingeneer at the beginning drinks the goo, before desintegrating, something similar is formed for a second at the top of its head, and parts of its body (Like one of its feet) break violently, almost exploding.

When the first holographs are activated, for a moment we see the Space Jockey that later gets decapitated falling to the floor, like if it was shoot on the leg or something. When the crew finds its body, for a moment we see its leg, and there are holes in it.

Later, all those Space Jockeys "corpses" the biologist and the geologist find have similar holes. What is more, I'm sure there aren't corpses inside of them, the suits are empty; only the decapitated head remained, because it stayed in that closed room with the jars.

So if the Space Jockey that got decapitated was going through the same that the Engineer at the beginning, but its head remained unaffected for being in that room, that means the remaining of its body (That was left in the outside) must have desintegrated just like the one at the begining, its holes in the leg part of the armor were caused by the actual leg spontaneously breaking just like with the Engineer at the begining with its foot. The same happened to all the other Space Jockeys, some parts of their bodies exploded, causing the holes, and the rest desintegrated. The ones found by the Biologist and the Geologist seem to have fallen in front of a door of some kind, maybe they were trying to reach their stasis beds to keep themselves alive, but failed.

That means all those Space Jockeys drank the goo. Does that mean that life should have been originated on that planet, just like in the planet at the begining (Specially seeing how both planets look almost the same)?

I think it's actually not that simple. I wonder if there is meant to be a contrast between the Engineer at the beginning and the Space Jockeys throughout the rest of the film. One dresses in robes, the others in armor-like space suits, like if the former was more spiritual and passive while the later were more "aggresive". There is also that the spaceship at the beginning (Wich looks like a more traditional U.F.O.) is completely different than the Derelict-like one at the end; it seems the Ingeneer at the beginning (The one that originated life) came from the former ship, while the other seems to be meant to take the jars with goo to Earth in order to destroy all life on it.

There are pictures around the internet of what seems to be an extended beginning, involving more Ingeneers with robes, two of them apparently old, one of these two giving the main one the jar with the goo, like if the whole thing was a ceremony or a tradition, presumably they are the ones who left the planet before that one drinks the goo and originates life:

http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m5mbd ... o1_500.jpg
http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m5nxy ... 1_1280.jpg
http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m5ri7 ... o1_500.jpg
http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m5vmo ... o1_500.jpg

I'm starting to think that it actually takes something to originate life after drinking the goo, maybe concentration or will power, so the dna forms again; any other Space Jockey would just desintegrate.

But why would all those Space Jockeys drink the goo to begin with? I wonder if they were poisoned, and betrayed by the Space Jockeys we later see in the form of holographs, one of wich survives. They could have taken matters in their own hands and deliberately killed the rest of the crew and wanted to eventually lead the spaceship to Earth in order to exterminate all life on it. Maybe.
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Re: Ridley Scott's "Prometheus" (2012)

Postby Shazam14 » Sat Jul 14, 2012 11:55 am

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Re: Ridley Scott's "Prometheus" (2012)

Postby Godzillakuj94 » Wed Aug 15, 2012 2:16 pm

Here's a list of the deleted scenes on the DVD.

ALTERNATE AND DELETED SCENES: [34:54]
* ARRIVAL OF THE ENGINEERS [2:31]
* T’IS THE SEASON [0:58]
* OUR FIRST ALIEN [0:42]
* SKIN [0:42]
* WE’RE NOT ALONE ANYMORE [1:22]
* STRANGE BEDFELLOWS [2:57]
* HOLLOWAY HUNGOVER [1:25]
* DAVID’S OBJECTIVE [0:23]
* JANEK FILLS VICKERS IN [3:27]
* A KING HAS HIS REIGN [3:40]
* FIFIELD ATTACKS [2:01]
* THE ENGINEER SPEAKS [4:06]
* FINAL BATTLE [5:30]
* PARADISE [5:05]
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Re: Ridley Scott's "Prometheus" (2012)

Postby Proofpoochie » Thu Aug 16, 2012 1:45 pm

Godzillakuj94 wrote:Here's a list of the deleted scenes on the DVD.

ALTERNATE AND DELETED SCENES: [34:54]
* ARRIVAL OF THE ENGINEERS [2:31]
* T’IS THE SEASON [0:58]
* OUR FIRST ALIEN [0:42]
* SKIN [0:42]
* WE’RE NOT ALONE ANYMORE [1:22]
* STRANGE BEDFELLOWS [2:57]
* HOLLOWAY HUNGOVER [1:25]
* DAVID’S OBJECTIVE [0:23]
* JANEK FILLS VICKERS IN [3:27]
* A KING HAS HIS REIGN [3:40]
* FIFIELD ATTACKS [2:01]
* THE ENGINEER SPEAKS [4:06]
* FINAL BATTLE [5:30]
* PARADISE [5:05]


That's incorrect. The special features disc will be exclusive to the Blu-ray set. Which is fine with me, because that's what I'm getting. :D
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Re: Ridley Scott's "Prometheus" (2012)

Postby wataru » Thu Aug 16, 2012 1:55 pm

Is there a link to what versions will be coming out and what extra discs and features will be included with what?

Amazon doesnt say how many discs the DVD will have. Those deleted scenes could be on the DVD or on a 2-disc DVD. Remember, those Amazon product pages have been up since before the movie.
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Re: Ridley Scott's "Prometheus" (2012)

Postby Proofpoochie » Thu Aug 16, 2012 2:20 pm

wataru wrote:Is there a link to what versions will be coming out and what extra discs and features will be included with what?

Amazon doesnt say how many discs the DVD will have. Those deleted scenes could be on the DVD or on a 2-disc DVD. Remember, those Amazon product pages have been up since before the movie.


FOXConnect says the DVD won't have special features. But, that doesn't really matter as DVDs suck. The Blu has special features, so it's all good.
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Re: Ridley Scott's "Prometheus" (2012)

Postby wataru » Thu Aug 16, 2012 2:31 pm

FoxConnect doesnt even mention special features on the BRD either...

..dont spread vague information.
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Re: Ridley Scott's "Prometheus" (2012)

Postby SoleMan » Fri Aug 17, 2012 8:52 am

So, are they gonna 'Blade Runner' this movie? Release a new edition every couple years?

Grr...should've seen it coming...
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Re: Ridley Scott's "Prometheus" (2012)

Postby wataru » Fri Aug 17, 2012 9:38 am

SoleMan wrote:So, are they gonna 'Blade Runner' this movie? Release a new edition every couple years?

Grr...should've seen it coming...


Blade Runner Director's Cut (came out 10+ years ago)
Blade Runner Final Cut (came out 5 years ago)
Blade Runner Boxed Set (came out 3 years ago)
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Re: Ridley Scott's "Prometheus" (2012)

Postby Proofpoochie » Fri Aug 17, 2012 11:20 am

wataru wrote:
SoleMan wrote:So, are they gonna 'Blade Runner' this movie? Release a new edition every couple years?

Grr...should've seen it coming...


Blade Runner Director's Cut (came out 10+ years ago)
Blade Runner Final Cut (came out 5 years ago)
Blade Runner Boxed Set (came out 3 years ago)


You forgot the new 30th Anniversary release coming out in October. Though, it doesn't really have anything new:

http://www.blu-ray.com/movies/Blade-Run ... ray/45541/
http://www.blu-ray.com/movies/Blade-Run ... ray/50584/
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Re: Ridley Scott's "Prometheus" (2012)

Postby wataru » Fri Aug 17, 2012 1:48 pm

NOTHING NEW!? THE DAMN THING HAS A TOY CAR !

ARGH!!!! MUST HAVE!!
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Re: Ridley Scott's "Prometheus" (2012)

Postby Hellspawn28 » Sat Sep 08, 2012 12:17 pm

20th Century Fox has released a new viral video for Prometheus today titled “Mission Transmission”.

http://www.avpgalaxy.net/2012/09/06/new ... l-video-2/

I thought it look pretty awesome. I'm ready to pre-order my Blu-Ray copy soon.
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Re: Ridley Scott's "Prometheus" (2012)

Postby Proofpoochie » Sat Sep 08, 2012 2:23 pm

Hellspawn28 wrote:20th Century Fox has released a new viral video for Prometheus today titled “Mission Transmission”.

http://www.avpgalaxy.net/2012/09/06/new ... l-video-2/

I thought it look pretty awesome. I'm ready to pre-order my Blu-Ray copy soon.


Make sure to get the Blu-ray 3D/2D/DVD/DC pack. That's the only version that will have extras.
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Re: Ridley Scott's "Prometheus" (2012)

Postby Hellspawn28 » Wed Sep 19, 2012 12:43 pm

GojiFan wrote:Stop using the term blockbuster if you don't know what it means. A blockbuster now a days is something aimed at a wide audience with hopes of a large return to compensate for the budget. Prometheus is not a summer blockbuster because it is not aimed at a wide audience by the very nature of its R-rating. Just because it came out in the summer does not make it a "summer blockbuster."


I think Prometheus can be view as a blockbuster given that's a big budget film that's apart of the Alien series and it was able to gross over 200 million worldwide.
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Re: Ridley Scott's "Prometheus" (2012)

Postby Tohosaurus » Wed Sep 19, 2012 1:47 pm

I think there are R-rated movies that are still blockbusters and still are viewed by a wide audience, just not PG-13 wide in terms of age. But even stuff like Saving Private Ryan was pretty wide scale.
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Re: Ridley Scott's "Prometheus" (2012)

Postby Hellspawn28 » Wed Sep 19, 2012 4:21 pm

300, Terminator 3, The Rambo movies, Die Hard 1-3, The Matrix Movies and the Resident Evil movies are viewed as blockbusters. I don't see how Prometheus can't?
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Re: Ridley Scott's "Prometheus" (2012)

Postby Legionmaster » Wed Sep 19, 2012 8:07 pm

Blockbuster refers to how the movie is marketed and distributed. Hollywood almost exclusively makes blockbusters nowadays.
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