Ridley Scott's "Prometheus" (2012)

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Re: Ridley Scott's "Prometheus" (2012)

Postby Hellspawn28 » Sun Jun 10, 2012 9:11 am

Well I'm glad that there was no Predator references or Easter Eggs in the movie. Fox give Scott full control of the movie and did not step in like they done in the past. The movie made 50 million this weekend and already made $141,500,000 worldwide. Things are looking good for the movie so far and hope they can give us a sequel that could finally let up to the first Alien film.

http://www.boxofficemojo.com/weekend/chart/

CommanderJoe wrote:And by the by, anyone familiar with the use of surgical staples knows that any patient who has had transversus abdominis cut for surgery will undergo days/weeks of healing, not hours. ;)


If the movie takes place in 2093 then won't they have the technology by then to make the healing go by quicker? It's like 80 or 90's years into the future. I'm pretty sure by then that they would have the technology to make things heal quicker?
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Re: Ridley Scott's "Prometheus" (2012)

Postby CommanderJoe » Sun Jun 10, 2012 9:33 am

Hellspawn28 wrote:Well I'm glad that there was no Predator references or Easter Eggs in the movie. Fox give Scott full control of the movie and did not step in like they done in the past. The movie made 50 million this weekend and already made $141,500,000 worldwide. Things are looking good for the movie so far and hope they can give us a sequel that could finally let up to the first Alien film.

http://www.boxofficemojo.com/weekend/chart/

CommanderJoe wrote:And by the by, anyone familiar with the use of surgical staples knows that any patient who has had transversus abdominis cut for surgery will undergo days/weeks of healing, not hours. ;)


If the movie takes place in 2093 then won't they have the technology by then to make the healing go by quicker? It's like 80 or 90's years into the future. I'm pretty sure by then that they would have the technology to make things heal quicker?


Then they wouldn't be using staples. As I mentioned earlier, if they had used cellular glue, I wouldn't have had a problem with that scene. That earlier missive was not directed towards you by the by. You're not a troll by any means. Hope you did not take offense to it and if so, my apologies. :oops:

Also, why wouldn't the ship have an avoidance system like our TCAS to keep the Prometheus from ramming it. Do these creatures go forward or backwards? :?
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Re: Ridley Scott's "Prometheus" (2012)

Postby ghidorasauras » Sun Jun 10, 2012 9:47 am

^^ I like the AVP tie ins...
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Re: Ridley Scott's "Prometheus" (2012)

Postby RedZillaKing » Sun Jun 10, 2012 11:32 am

It was nice to see some class return to the series. I personally enjoyed this one. The Engineers were everty bit as cold and menacing as their skeletal creations. Would've liked to see more Engineer vs. Human action. Squidzilla and The Amazing Cobra Worm were interesting predacessors to the facehuggers. Actually hopping for a sequel....
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Re: Ridley Scott's "Prometheus" (2012)

Postby Tyler » Sun Jun 10, 2012 11:53 am

Svitska Donkun wrote:The problem with Weyland is that they treat him like a twist plot point. HE WAS ON THE SHIP THE WHOLE TIME?!?!?! So? Why keep it a secret. Why wouldn't an old man doing a last ditch attempt to save himself be on the ship? Why is Theron's character being his daughter a plot point? Why is it in the movie? Aside from whatever idiotic creator/created theme they thought they were emphasizing, it does nothing. It doesn't make her any less of a 2D hard ***** caricature and doesn't make his "surprise" inclusion any less cheap and nonsensical.


The twist is ruined because there's a brief scene where David is somehow receiving orders from Weyland in hypersleep. Then the bitchy Theron character confronts him. It's pretty obvious what's going on but when the old guy shows up it tries to be this big moment. Plus the makeup was horrible. He looked like one of the old guys from Jackass.

Then there's the simple issue of the aliens and the presentation of them. The alien sacrifices itself and starts existence on Earth. Cool. Good scene. But why show the mother ship fly away? Did they decide to go away and wait many many million years then come back when man finally came about? Is the film trying to say that evolution actually didn't happen at all? Then what are dinosaurs? Were they already dead then the aliens showed up? Did they only create us? Then why do all life on Earth have the same base pairs? If the aliens did leave when he threw himself in, why are the cave paintings there in the first place? If they didn't leave, my make a point of showing it leave? Why does this alien after being awoken immediately attack the humans like a big brute? It's an alien that has mastered space travel and the creation of life yet it still just attacks like any other creature. Fine, I'll buy that...


The proloque is unnecessary to me because it spoils the idea that they're basically us (except being 10 ft tall albino monsters). The scene where they crack open the Space Jockey helmet and test the DNA is a shock to the characters but we already know this so it doesn't really matter.
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Re: Ridley Scott's "Prometheus" (2012)

Postby Goji » Sun Jun 10, 2012 12:34 pm

CommanderJoe wrote:
Goji wrote:"why are the space jockey's chest exploded"

"This is a different planet than the one from the original Alien, but their chests are exploded"

Gee, maybe because (gasp!) this is the beginnings of the xenomorph species. Imagine that!

The fact that you weren't even able to piece this together makes your whole rant invalid as skreeonk, as far as I'm concerned.



How does any of that make any of my criticisms of the inherent lack of logic in the script invalid?
Why have any of the engineers/soldiers/angels/demons/giants/ADAMS chests exploded? Explain it to me since you're obviously so much more intelligent than anybody else on these boards. While you're at it, explain all the rest of the inconsistencies and lapses in scientific logic in the movie. Please. :?


Jesus Christ, this isn't even proper English.

Why did an unknown organism burst it's way through the engineer's chest if it's not a xenomorph?

^ I'm assuming this is basically what you're trying to say, am I right?

The answer to this question is simple .Obviously, it indicates the start of the xenomorph species.
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Re: Ridley Scott's "Prometheus" (2012)

Postby RedZillaKing » Sun Jun 10, 2012 12:56 pm

Perhaps different birthing methods create different variations. This one was the "grandchild" born from a parent who was itself a product of the union between an infected human and another human. The cobra worm was another variation of the face hugger model, though the offspring apparently controlled the host rather than killing it.

Xenos born from Engineers could be different. Either that or the substance itself was constantly changing. I dunno.
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Re: Ridley Scott's "Prometheus" (2012)

Postby SuperSaiyan4Godzilla » Sun Jun 10, 2012 1:01 pm

Hey, CommanderJoe, I see that happen again, I'll be the one to give you a warning.

Who beat me to it, dammit?
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Re: Ridley Scott's "Prometheus" (2012)

Postby wataru » Sun Jun 10, 2012 1:20 pm

Saw it. Liked it. Was no where as good as Alien.

Possible spoilers?

First, ok Vickers has a very rare and expensive medical pod in her special detachable craft. And the pod is only configure for MALE? Im sorry, is Vickers a tranny?

Second, the rampant use of CGI made me sick. Scott pulled off so much with matte and models in Alien and Blade Runner that the cartoon Engineers were a huge disappointment in that respect.

Third, it's a prequel to Alien. Sorry, but it is. It has a proto-Xeno at the end.

I dug it, but it's below Alien and Aliens IMHO.
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Re: Ridley Scott's "Prometheus" (2012)

Postby Godzillakuj94 » Sun Jun 10, 2012 1:24 pm

wataru wrote:Saw it. Liked it. Was no where as good as Alien.

Possible spoilers?

First, ok Vickers has a very rare and expensive medical pod in her special detachable craft. And the pod is only configure for MALE? Im sorry, is Vickers a tranny?

Second, the rampant use of CGI made me sick. Scott pulled off so much with matte and models in Alien and Blade Runner that the cartoon Engineers were a huge disappointment in that respect.

Third, it's a prequel to Alien. Sorry, but it is. It has a proto-Xeno at the end.

I dug it, but it's below Alien and Aliens IMHO.

Ridley Scott only used CGI on the Engineer's face the rest was a suit. Also we're not sure if it is a proto-Xeno or just a new type of Xenomorph.
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Re: Ridley Scott's "Prometheus" (2012)

Postby Legionmaster » Sun Jun 10, 2012 1:32 pm

wataru wrote:First, ok Vickers has a very rare and expensive medical pod in her special detachable craft. And the pod is only configure for MALE? Im sorry, is Vickers a tranny?

It's very obviously for Weyland.
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Re: Ridley Scott's "Prometheus" (2012)

Postby godzillathrilla » Sun Jun 10, 2012 1:37 pm

Svitska Donkun wrote:
Nice edit.


i didnt see you already posted about what i said so i figured id change it because after i posted "over examining" it seemed wrong.
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Re: Ridley Scott's "Prometheus" (2012)

Postby Godzillakuj94 » Sun Jun 10, 2012 1:42 pm

Legionmaster wrote:
wataru wrote:First, ok Vickers has a very rare and expensive medical pod in her special detachable craft. And the pod is only configure for MALE? Im sorry, is Vickers a tranny?

It's very obviously for Weyland.
Or it could be that Vickers is a robot.
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Re: Ridley Scott's "Prometheus" (2012)

Postby Legionmaster » Sun Jun 10, 2012 1:45 pm

Godzillakuj94 wrote:
Legionmaster wrote:
wataru wrote:First, ok Vickers has a very rare and expensive medical pod in her special detachable craft. And the pod is only configure for MALE? Im sorry, is Vickers a tranny?

It's very obviously for Weyland.
Or it could be that Vickers is a robot.

She isn't, not that that would affect why the medical pod is configured for a male.
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Re: Ridley Scott's "Prometheus" (2012)

Postby miguelnuva » Sun Jun 10, 2012 2:01 pm

Wait so is the movie a prequel to Alien or not, I'm confused. According to what you guys are saying I'd call it a prequel.
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Re: Ridley Scott's "Prometheus" (2012)

Postby Legionmaster » Sun Jun 10, 2012 2:07 pm

miguelnuva wrote:Wait so is the movie a prequel to Alien or not, I'm confused. According to what you guys are saying I'd call it a prequel.

It's a prequel in the sense that it takes place in the same universe prior to the events of Alien. It is not a prequel in the sense that the events of Prometheus do not lead up to the events of Alien. It's more of a spin-off prequel. A related story, but not a direct prequel.
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Re: Ridley Scott's "Prometheus" (2012)

Postby Svitska Donkun » Sun Jun 10, 2012 3:26 pm

I wish people would see Moonrise Kingdom this weekend(best film of the year) instead of this Film equivalent to Subway.

*Disclaimer, I acknowledge that Prometheus is no the worst film to see, hence why I compared it to the somewhat more healthy Subway and not Mcdonald's.*
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Re: Ridley Scott's "Prometheus" (2012)

Postby Legionmaster » Sun Jun 10, 2012 3:30 pm

Svitska Donkun wrote:I wish people would see Moonrise Kingdom this weekend(best film of the year) instead of this Film equivalent to Subway.

*Disclaimer, I acknowledge that Prometheus is no the worst film to see, hence why I compared it to the somewhat more healthy Subway and not Mcdonald's.*

The amusing part is that Subway isn't any healthier than Mcdonald's.
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Re: Ridley Scott's "Prometheus" (2012)

Postby wataru » Sun Jun 10, 2012 3:38 pm

Legionmaster wrote:
miguelnuva wrote:Wait so is the movie a prequel to Alien or not, I'm confused. According to what you guys are saying I'd call it a prequel.

It's a prequel in the sense that it takes place in the same universe prior to the events of Alien. It is not a prequel in the sense that the events of Prometheus do not lead up to the events of Alien. It's more of a spin-off prequel. A related story, but not a direct prequel.


Technically, we wont know until or unless a Prometheus 2 is made. The storyline of Prometheus, even as it stands, can be linked directly to Alien. But Aliens, Alien3 and A:R would be their own "existing in the same universe, but their own thing".
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Re: Ridley Scott's "Prometheus" (2012)

Postby Svitska Donkun » Sun Jun 10, 2012 3:38 pm

Legionmaster wrote:
Svitska Donkun wrote:I wish people would see Moonrise Kingdom this weekend(best film of the year) instead of this Film equivalent to Subway.

*Disclaimer, I acknowledge that Prometheus is no the worst film to see, hence why I compared it to the somewhat more healthy Subway and not Mcdonald's.*

The amusing part is that Subway isn't any healthier than Mcdonald's.


Untrue. Simply untrue. Subway isn;t healthy, but it's a damn sight better than McDonald's.
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