Ridley Scott's "Prometheus" (2012)

[Blackout286]

You DO have hundreds (per day) of commercials saying "Everything has a beginning..." showing the Space Jockey, showing some HG Greiger type alien stuff and the same lighting as ALIEN.

And that's a excuse to not look into things and clarify things before investing your time into it?

[wataru]

Why should a casual movie viewer rearch a movie before going to see it? Why should ANYONE have to do research on a film before going to see it? How many of yall knew Dark Shadows was a soap opera from 1966-1971 ? ALOT of people didnt.

You shouldnt.

The trailer is supposed to entice you. And they constantly put out more. But the movie is being toted as a prequel to Alien by the actions of the trailers. Ridley can do or say whatever he wants in interviews, but it's a movie. Not a test.

[Blackout286]

[quote="wataru"]Why should a casual movie viewer rearch a movie before going to see it? Why should ANYONE have to do research on a film before going to see it? How many of yall knew Dark Shadows was a soap opera from 1966-1971 ? ALOT of people didnt.

You shouldnt./quote]

Why would a casual movie viewer research a movie before going to see it? Why would anyone do it?

Why else?

To make sure that it's worth your money, and to make sure that you know what your getting yourself into. Asking why anyone should do research on a movie before seeing it, is like asking why anyone would want to buy a game before playing it(unless there's a demo out) and learning about it. You learn about what your investing yourself into, even when your being visually presented something, you still research and see what things really are before putting yourself out there. I've seen multiple casual movie viewers do this with other movies that they were about to see, why? Because they wanted to make sure that it was worth it.

Dark Shadows, I'm not even going to acknowledge because I'm talking about the HERE and the NOW. Modern day, technology, multiple sources of information to educate yourself with.

Its not a test, correct, but that still doesn't excuse anything when you have so many chances to save yourself from disappointment.

[Shazam14]

Ugh... skreeonk errbody. I'm gonna watch this movie. Judge it for myself.

[wataru]

...um Blackout. Dark Shadows came out a week after The Avengers. The soap came out in 1966.

[Blackout286]

...um Blackout. Dark Shadows came out a week after The Avengers. The soap came out in 1966.

I was directing myself in not acknowledging the soap that came in 1966. I was talking about Prometheus as the here and the now. I thought I was clear about that.

[wataru]

...um Blackout. Dark Shadows came out a week after The Avengers. The soap came out in 1966.

I was directing myself in not acknowledging the soap that came in 1966. I was talking about Prometheus as the here and the now. I thought I was clear about that.

The first place most people are going to go to look it up is going to be Google which has the Wiki as the first link and all over that page it stats Prometheus was developed as a prequel to Alien or another Alien film....

Also, if you wanted to know more about Dark Shadows, you'd Google it and get the soap opera.

[Blackout286]

...um Blackout. Dark Shadows came out a week after The Avengers. The soap came out in 1966.

I was directing myself in not acknowledging the soap that came in 1966. I was talking about Prometheus as the here and the now. I thought I was clear about that.

The first place most people are going to go to look it up is going to be Google which has the Wiki as the first link and all over that page it stats Prometheus was developed as a prequel to Alien or another Alien film....

Also, if you wanted to know more about Dark Shadows, you'd Google it and get the soap opera.

For the most part, that is true, they would learn that it was a prequel, but would also learn that its not and is its own thing.

[wataru]

Technically it's not even it's own thing. It's based in the Alien universe using Alien mech, Alien characters (Weyland, Space Jockeys) with Alien terminology (Weyland, LV-226) and it happens before Alien.

The fact is - people think Alien when they think Prometheus. It's was casual viewers are going to think, it's what we as movie buffs think. I respect Ridley Scott, I love all his work, but if he wanted to make his own thing, he could've made a free-standing film in it's own universe. But this happened in AVP and AVP:R and failed so....

[HayesAJones]

Ugh... skreeonk errbody. I'm gonna watch this movie. Judge it for myself.

Ding, ding! This man WINS! Tell 'im what luxurious prize he's earned.

[wataru]

Ugh... skreeonk errbody. I'm gonna watch this movie. Judge it for myself.

Ding, ding! This man WINS! Tell 'im what luxurious prize he's earned.

He wins the prize for doing what normal people do! It's called death and paying taxes!

[Flygon King]

Ugh... skreeonk errbody. I'm gonna watch this movie. Judge it for myself.

Ding, ding! This man WINS! Tell 'im what luxurious prize he's earned.

He has earned... a free snack from the Netherworld!



After seeing the small clip my friend showed me, I am pretty hyped to see this...

[Blackout286]

Technically it's not even it's own thing. It's based in the Alien universe using Alien mech, Alien characters (Weyland, Space Jockeys) with Alien terminology (Weyland, LV-226) and it happens before Alien.

The fact is - people think Alien when they think Prometheus. It's was casual viewers are going to think, it's what we as movie buffs think. I respect Ridley Scott, I love all his work, but if he wanted to make his own thing, he could've made a free-standing film in it's own universe. But this happened in AVP and AVP:R and failed so....

I find it to be its own things, although personally that's just me along with anyone else who thinks that.

I know that's going to happen, but its also a fact that they could have simply taken the time out of their day to simply move their fingers across their keyboard and do some digging before drowning themselves too much into the product. I'm a casual viewer and even I do this (research a film), and of course, I'm not alone on this since I'm sure others do this as well. A fact that they could have saved themselves from being disappointed.

[wataru]

Dude, you're totally oblivious.

Here, I'll make it big and bolded for you:

THE MOVIE IS BEING TOTED AS A PREQUEL TO ALIEN BASED UPON THE TRAILER'S ACTIONS

You should not have to, or be expected to, dive through the internet, watch dozen of YouTube videos of interviews or read blogs about a movie to learn what it's NOT ABOUT when the trailer explicitly points you in the EXACT OPPOSITE DIRECTION.

I am not saying it is, I am saying it is a SPIN-OFF or SIDE-QUEL.

But again...

THE MOVIE IS BEING TOTED AS A PREQUEL TO ALIEN BASED UPON THE TRAILER'S ACTIONS

[Shazam14]

I win all the best prizes!

[Blackout286]

You should not have to, or be expected to, dive through the internet, watch dozen of YouTube videos of interviews or read blogs about a movie to learn what it's NOT ABOUT when the trailer explicitly points you in the EXACT OPPOSITE DIRECTION.

Meh, there's no point in actually continuing, doesn't excuse oneself when there are so many sources to use to save yourself from disappointment. Of course you don't learn about a movie to learn what its not, the human brain is capable enough to piece two and two together once the information learned is absorbed. Again, you learn about a movie to learn what your investing yourself into, when being grimly hyped about a film, research is done, I've seen many people do this. Even if what's displayed before you is there, learning more about it could help you in the long run and save you from disappointment.

Seriously dude, we're going round and round, no point in actually continuing.

[Terrier]

The trailers show Space Jockeys... that doesn't mean the movie is a straight prequel to Alien, it means that it's a movie about Space Jockeys, plain and simple. That's another thing Ridley Scott said in an interview, that none of the movies (Poor comics, always disregarded) did expand upon the idea of that misterious extraterrestrial. The trailers themselves show Space Jockeys, the movie's characters, the movie's technology, the movie's story, the quest the characters are after, it shows its own movie... its conections with Alien are subtle (The way title appears, the designs by Giger...), it was the word of mouth that strengthened the idea of it being an Alien prequel.

Some may think that because it has Space Jockeys it has to mean that it will be about the origin of the aliens, when actually the idea that the Space Jockeys created the aliens is just an assumption, made for the lack of anything better, there was nothing in the movie that suggested that (In fact, if one analyzes the evolution of the script, and considers certain concept art and certain deleted scennes and the original ending, one may conclude something different...).

And as far as I know, the trailers haven't been all over our faces about Weyland. The company featured prominently on the viral campaign, on the internet. One had to do research to find out about Weyland.

[miguelnuva]

I was under the impression that prometheus were about humans vs space jokeys and then the second prequel would feature the aliens is this not true?

[Terrier]

I was under the impression that prometheus were about humans vs space jokeys and then the second prequel would feature the aliens is this not true?

I don't think so. More like Prometheus may have a sequel that will expand from Prometheus and will have less if anything to do with Alien. Alien being it's own side story (I guess that taking the Alien sequels and other products as canon is up to you, but they aren't important for Prometheus and whatever may come from it).

http://www.prometheus-movie.com/news/223

[Gorosaurus Rex]

Saw this at midnight last night. Besides some shoddy dialogue and script issues throughout, its an intelligent and atmospheric science fiction film. Michael Fassbender is brilliant in it.