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The best installment in the Star Wars saga is...

Star Wars Episode I: The Phantom Menace (1999)
6
5%
Star Wars Episode II: Attack of the Clones (2002)
3
3%
Star Wars Episode III: Revenge of the Sith (2005)
9
8%
Star Wars Episode IV: A New Hope (1977)
14
13%
Star Wars Episode V: The Empire Strikes Back (1980)
66
60%
Star Wars Episode VI: Return of the Jedi (1983)
12
11%
 
Total votes : 110

Re: Star Wars

Postby shinmattiathekaiju » Sat May 05, 2012 4:47 pm

I think Plinkett puts too much creepy stuff in his videos.
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Re: Star Wars

Postby Tyler » Sat May 05, 2012 5:06 pm

Yeah the cat-fucking in the Sith review caught me off guard.
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Re: Star Wars

Postby The H-Man » Sat May 05, 2012 5:45 pm

miguelnuva wrote:I still don't get all the hate the prequels get. They seem like fun movies to me and nothing beats the originals in movie series anyway.

The main problem I hear with the prequels is they were a love story and most guys don't like love stories and guys are star wars's main fanbase.

Now what would be cool is if the last Clone Wars Season showed around Operation Knightfall.

I think it's more that the love story between Anakin and Padme was so poorly executed. Those scenes are so badly done that I always skip over them when watching any of the prequels.
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Re: Star Wars

Postby Sydney Aradi » Sat May 05, 2012 6:27 pm

While the Star Wars prequels had some good action scenes but the human drama was just god awful and no strong acting from everyone not even from Samuel L. Jackson could save the prequels and the prequels are an example of letting George Lucas get too much creative freedom
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Re: Star Wars

Postby DaiKamonohashi » Sun May 06, 2012 1:33 am

The H-Man wrote:
miguelnuva wrote:I still don't get all the hate the prequels get. They seem like fun movies to me and nothing beats the originals in movie series anyway.

The main problem I hear with the prequels is they were a love story and most guys don't like love stories and guys are star wars's main fanbase.

Now what would be cool is if the last Clone Wars Season showed around Operation Knightfall.

I think it's more that the love story between Anakin and Padme was so poorly executed. Those scenes are so badly done that I always skip over them when watching any of the prequels.


Yeah, I'm a sappy sumbitch who loves a good romance in his movies (Wong Kar-Wai is one of my top three directors, fer cryin' out loud!) but the romance in the prequels was God-awful. The Han/Luke/Leia triangle was much more elegantly executed.
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Re: Star Wars

Postby XxComablack1937xX » Sun May 06, 2012 1:59 am

miguelnuva wrote:I still don't get all the hate the prequels get. They seem like fun movies to me and nothing beats the originals in movie series anyway.

The main problem I hear with the prequels is they were a love story and most guys don't like love stories and guys are star wars's main fanbase.

Now what would be cool is if the last Clone Wars Season showed around Operation Knightfall.



The problem with the prequel's was the story an Anakin's transformation to the Dark-Side, it was so poorly executed. Most of the actors actually CAN act yet there performance in the prequels seemed like they were talking to a wall without any emotion. An anakin's an padme's line's to each other were just cringe worthy.

The fight scene's were entertaining, Darth Maul an Darth Sidious were great in there scene's so while not all bad.. If George Lucas wasn't such a control freak an let other's help detail the script an have someone else's vision in the directors chair they could have easily surpassed the Original's.

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Re: Star Wars

Postby shinmattiathekaiju » Sun May 06, 2012 5:41 am

Also Grievous was good.
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Re: Star Wars

Postby Tyler » Sun May 06, 2012 1:28 pm

shinmattiathekaiju wrote:Also Grievous was good.


In the cartoon...
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Re: Star Wars

Postby GodzillavsZilla » Sun May 06, 2012 1:47 pm

Tyler wrote:
shinmattiathekaiju wrote:Also Grievous was good.


In the cartoon...

And the CGI show and Revenge of the Sith when he was in action
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Re: Star Wars

Postby Huan_of_Valinor » Sun May 06, 2012 1:58 pm

GodzillavsZilla wrote:
Tyler wrote:
shinmattiathekaiju wrote:Also Grievous was good.


In the cartoon...

And the CGI show and Revenge of the Sith when he was in action


...he was in action in Revenge of the Sith? i seem to remember him running at every possible opportunity, and he lost to a jedi who thought kicking a metal leg was a good idea. the phrase "wasted potental" comes to mind

i don't know anything about the CGI show tho, have they potrayed Grievous as a legitimate Jedi slayer/threat in that?
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Re: Star Wars

Postby The H-Man » Sun May 06, 2012 5:59 pm

I think Lucas dropped the ball on Grevious. He was supposed to be this terrifying creature, but he honestly is almost comical with that cough of his.
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Re: Star Wars

Postby Legionmaster » Sun May 06, 2012 6:09 pm

The H-Man wrote:I think Lucas dropped the ball on Grevious. He was supposed to be this terrifying creature, but he honestly is almost comical with that cough of his.

If you were only eyes, brain, heart, and lungs, you'd probably cough a lot too.
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Re: Star Wars

Postby GojiFan » Sun May 06, 2012 6:12 pm

Legionmaster wrote:
The H-Man wrote:I think Lucas dropped the ball on Grevious. He was supposed to be this terrifying creature, but he honestly is almost comical with that cough of his.

If you were only eyes, brain, heart, and lungs, you'd probably cough a lot too.
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Re: Star Wars

Postby RedZillaKing » Sun May 06, 2012 6:26 pm

I don't buy that Mace injured him. First of all there's two explanations out there for it. One was that Mace threw a STAP at him (comics). The other was that Mace just force crushed his insides. However the reason he really coughs is because Lucas wanted him to be a sort of prototype for the Tech that keeps Vader alive.
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Re: Star Wars

Postby miguelnuva » Sun May 06, 2012 6:33 pm

RedZillaKing wrote:. However the reason he really coughs is because Lucas wanted him to be a sort of prototype for the Tech that keeps Vader alive.


This is the correct reason. The CGI show has found a balance between cartoon Grievous and ROTS Grievous though.
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Re: Star Wars

Postby GojiFan » Sun May 06, 2012 7:34 pm

RedZillaKing wrote:I don't buy that Mace injured him. First of all there's two explanations out there for it. One was that Mace threw a STAP at him (comics). The other was that Mace just force crushed his insides. However the reason he really coughs is because Lucas wanted him to be a sort of prototype for the Tech that keeps Vader alive.
He did always cough a bit, but it is made quite clear through the various films or whatever that he was substantially injured by Windu prior to the space battle seen in episode 3.
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Re: Star Wars

Postby JVM » Sun May 06, 2012 9:46 pm

CGI show has been mixed on Grievous. Characterization-wise, he's in between - still a bit of a pussy, but a badass when fighting. Also, the cough is still there but toned down.

But his design in the show is one of the worse ones, IMO.
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Re: Star Wars

Postby Bret » Mon May 07, 2012 1:05 am

Grevious was a real badass in those Star Wars shorts that CN used to show. This was back in 05.
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Re: Star Wars

Postby RedZillaKing » Mon May 07, 2012 2:38 am

GojiFan wrote:
RedZillaKing wrote:I don't buy that Mace injured him. First of all there's two explanations out there for it. One was that Mace threw a STAP at him (comics). The other was that Mace just force crushed his insides. However the reason he really coughs is because Lucas wanted him to be a sort of prototype for the Tech that keeps Vader alive.
He did always cough a bit, but it is made quite clear through the various films or whatever that he was substantially injured by Windu prior to the space battle seen in episode 3.

What films? I've only seen EU stuff and I don't even consider that canon by any stretch. I sure as hell don't consider the microseries anything close to film canon. It isn't mentioned in the actual films or the actual Clone Wars CGI series so how could it be canonical?
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Re: Star Wars

Postby Legionmaster » Mon May 07, 2012 5:23 am

RedZillaKing wrote:I sure as hell don't consider the microseries anything close to film canon. It isn't mentioned in the actual films or the actual Clone Wars CGI series so how could it be canonical?

Those stories were intended to bridge the gap between Attack and Revenge. We get the explanation as to why Anakin looks different now, the entire setup for where Revenge begins (the kidnapping of Palpatine), and general "this is what the Clone War looks like" stuff.

And I don't know where people get the idea that Grievous is a pussy. If you're the general of a revolutionary force and your navy gets splattered across a solar system by the government you're revolting against, it's pretty advisable to get the fudge out of there and not get murdered. He's not a wimp, he's a slippery survivor.
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