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The best installment in the Star Wars saga is...

Star Wars Episode I: The Phantom Menace (1999)
6
5%
Star Wars Episode II: Attack of the Clones (2002)
3
3%
Star Wars Episode III: Revenge of the Sith (2005)
9
8%
Star Wars Episode IV: A New Hope (1977)
14
13%
Star Wars Episode V: The Empire Strikes Back (1980)
66
60%
Star Wars Episode VI: Return of the Jedi (1983)
12
11%
 
Total votes : 110

Re: Star Wars

Postby Legionmaster » Tue Mar 13, 2012 10:34 am

Goji wrote:Niiiice. I've been putting off watching the CG "Clone Wars" series for several years now. I should probably get on that.

I'd watch it. It has its ups and downs, but overall it's ok. I don't know if you watched the Clone Wars movie, but they've thankfully curtailed the annoying nicknames as the series has gone on.

I'd try not to worry too much about canon when watching it either; it's really hard to follow. Even within the series, they jump around in the storyline a lot. Just enjoy it for what it is and it's fine.
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Re: Star Wars

Postby Goji » Tue Mar 13, 2012 10:37 am

Yes, I did see the movie, and found it terribly underwhelming..it's probably why I stayed away from the show for a while. Honestly one of the reasons I haven't started watching it is that I have no way to catch up with the series unless I buy those expensive DVD sets, or Netflix them one at a time. Does anyone know if Hulu Plus it available to watch?

I'm glad the Mandalorian's weren't completely replaced. I had hoped that Lucas wasn't silly enough to just drop them completely.

*edit* Nevermind...looks like Hulu doesn't have anything SW available. Figures.
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Re: Star Wars

Postby o.supreme » Tue Mar 13, 2012 10:44 am

I watch the series pretty regular. As Legionmaster said it has its ups & downs (Zillo Beast 2-part was fun) :) Also the first 3 seasons have episodes are not all in chronological order, season 4 seems to be more linear from what I've read. I wonder when its all over if someone will list all the CW episodes in Chronological order. It would be nice to have a definitive timeline.
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Re: Star Wars

Postby Mothra Freak » Tue Mar 13, 2012 11:40 am

Goji wrote:Niiiice. I've been putting off watching the CG "Clone Wars" series for several years now. I should probably get on that.

Do it. I'm not a huge Star Wars fan, but I love it. The opening movie wasn't very good at all, but the actual show is pretty good.
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Re: Star Wars

Postby Legionmaster » Tue Mar 13, 2012 12:47 pm

I've just googled episode titles and found them online places. Sometimes you have to wait mid-episode to let sites allow your IP to watch more, but sometimes thats what it takes to steal television.
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Re: Star Wars

Postby JVM » Tue Mar 13, 2012 4:31 pm

The first season of Clone Wars was pretty bad - too many Anakin-Ashoka-Obiwan episodes. Ashoka ruins the character dynamic there; she's tolerable when she's just with Anakin, but when with both of them, the repetition is quite annoying. There was also a ton of Battle Droid humor, which got old, fast, especially since unlike Jar-Jar, who's a sentient being, Battle Droids are robots, so the idea of them making unintentionally smartass remarks and such is nonsensical unless programmed as such.

I don't think I saw any of Season 2, not even the Zillo Beast arc, but Seasons 3 and 4, excluding a few choice moments (the Mortis trilogy, Even Piell's last scene, Anakin's angst when Ashoka disappears) have generally been big improvements. The overall Nightsisters arc between both seasons in particular, even if it has some weak dialogue, has a great over-arching story going on, even if the Bounty one made me facepalm for most of it's ending.

Also, I think the series works very strongly when they involve non-traditional elements. Chewbacca, Tarkin, and Darth Maul have been treated rather respectfully, and Even Piell was doing quite well until he received quite a lame death.

I hate to say it though, I do look forward to Ashoka and Rex's "deaths". Considering they wrote out Piell to explain his pseudo-absence in ROTS, I'm quite sure they'll kill them both off. James Arnold Taylor, Obi-Wan's voice actor, even hinted towards Ashoka's death.

Of course, they might be cheap and let her survive Order 66 somehow.
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Re: Star Wars

Postby miguelnuva » Tue Mar 13, 2012 4:55 pm

JVM wrote:The first season of Clone Wars was pretty bad - too many Anakin-Ashoka-Obiwan episodes. Ashoka ruins the character dynamic there; she's tolerable when she's just with Anakin, but when with both of them, the repetition is quite annoying. There was also a ton of Battle Droid humor, which got old, fast, especially since unlike Jar-Jar, who's a sentient being, Battle Droids are robots, so the idea of them making unintentionally smartass remarks and such is nonsensical unless programmed as such.

I don't think I saw any of Season 2, not even the Zillo Beast arc, but Seasons 3 and 4, excluding a few choice moments (the Mortis trilogy, Even Piell's last scene, Anakin's angst when Ashoka disappears) have generally been big improvements. The overall Nightsisters arc between both seasons in particular, even if it has some weak dialogue, has a great over-arching story going on, even if the Bounty one made me facepalm for most of it's ending.

Also, I think the series works very strongly when they involve non-traditional elements. Chewbacca, Tarkin, and Darth Maul have been treated rather respectfully, and Even Piell was doing quite well until he received quite a lame death.

I hate to say it though, I do look forward to Ashoka and Rex's "deaths". Considering they wrote out Piell to explain his pseudo-absence in ROTS, I'm quite sure they'll kill them both off. James Arnold Taylor, Obi-Wan's voice actor, even hinted towards Ashoka's death.

Of course, they might be cheap and let her survive Order 66 somehow.


Wait when did they say Rex dies I thought he was in order 66?
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Re: Star Wars

Postby Mothra Freak » Tue Mar 13, 2012 8:44 pm

miguelnuva wrote:Wait when did they say Rex dies I thought he was in order 66?

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Re: Star Wars

Postby Malchik » Tue Mar 13, 2012 11:08 pm

Mothra Freak wrote:
miguelnuva wrote:Wait when did they say Rex dies I thought he was in order 66?

That's Cody.

Wait, you mean a modern Star Wars character has been named something other than a bad Bantu sounding name?
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Re: Star Wars

Postby miguelnuva » Wed Mar 14, 2012 12:11 am

Mothra Freak wrote:
miguelnuva wrote:Wait when did they say Rex dies I thought he was in order 66?

That's Cody.


No I mean I thought he was with Anakin on the march of the jedi temple.
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Re: Star Wars

Postby o.supreme » Wed Mar 14, 2012 6:40 am

JVM wrote:Of course, they might be cheap and let her survive Order 66 somehow.


That's what I'm thinking. I think because she is a creation of The Clone Wars series, she should die when it ends, but I'm thinking they wont have the guts to do it. But then again, you never know.
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Re: Star Wars

Postby Mothra Freak » Wed Mar 14, 2012 9:02 am

miguelnuva wrote:
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miguelnuva wrote:Wait when did they say Rex dies I thought he was in order 66?

That's Cody.


No I mean I thought he was with Anakin on the march of the jedi temple.

Oh. His name was Appo, if I recall correctly.

Rex was created specifically for the show.
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Re: Star Wars

Postby Gorosaurus Rex » Wed Mar 14, 2012 2:19 pm

Rex, like Ahsoka, is an enigma. We don't know what happens to him, which makes him one of the more interesting characters in the show in my opinion. Its partially why I adore the Umbara arc we had this season so much.
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Re: Star Wars

Postby JVM » Wed Mar 14, 2012 3:58 pm

The 501st Legion's had a quite a few Commanders - Appo, Alpha, another one I'm unaware of, and Rex in the series, yeah.

Umbara arc? I didn't catch that one, what was in it?
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Re: Star Wars

Postby GodzillavsZilla » Wed Mar 14, 2012 4:01 pm

JVM wrote:The 501st Legion's had a quite a few Commanders - Appo, Alpha, another one I'm unaware of, and Rex in the series, yeah.

Umbara arc? I didn't catch that one, what was in it?

There was also one named Commander Fox

And the Umbara arc was the episodes with Krell
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Re: Star Wars

Postby Gorosaurus Rex » Wed Mar 14, 2012 4:41 pm

JVM wrote:The 501st Legion's had a quite a few Commanders - Appo, Alpha, another one I'm unaware of, and Rex in the series, yeah.

Umbara arc? I didn't catch that one, what was in it?


Its a four part clone centric arc that follows the Republic's attempts to retake Umbara. One of the episodes was directed by Walter Murch, editor of Apocalypse Now and numerous other famous movies. In my opinion its the best the series has ever been.
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Re: Star Wars

Postby miguelnuva » Sat Apr 14, 2012 3:56 am

I know I said this before but after watching the blu-ray changes wouldn't it be easier for GL to just remake star wars 4,5 and 6 and then release the original 77,80,83 versions alongside the remade versions on blu-ray?
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Re: Star Wars

Postby SoleMan » Sat Apr 14, 2012 4:57 am

I've been into Star Wars ever since I was three years old (I think--you can't remember when you're three) and love the original trilogy as a masterwork of cinema. The prequels are tolerable in my opinion, but the only thing that could best my passion for Luke, Vader, Han, Boba, Chewy and all the rest is the mighty king himself: Godzilla (But you already knew that, didn't you?)

I didn't vote, because there was no "all of the above" option.
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Re: Star Wars

Postby Ethan » Sat Apr 14, 2012 9:21 am

I know I said this before but after watching the blu-ray changes wouldn't it be easier for GL to just remake star wars 4,5 and 6 and then release the original 77,80,83 versions alongside the remade versions on blu-ray?

People have been telling him to do that for quite a while. Alas his pride is way too big.
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Re: Star Wars

Postby miguelnuva » Sat Apr 14, 2012 1:33 pm

Yeah whats the point of arguing that the original trilogy shouldn't be remade if Lucas is going to change them every new release. I just found out myself I've never seen the original original trilogy due to all the changes done to them.
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