Star Wars: The Force Awakens (2015, JJ Abrams)

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Which are your favorite installments in the Star Wars Saga?

Star Wars (1977, dir. George Lucas)
13
15%
The Empire Strikes Back (1980, dir. Irvin Kershner)
30
36%
Return of the Jedi (1983, dir. Richard Marquand)
20
24%
The Phantom Menace (1999, dir. Lucas)
3
4%
Attack of the Clones (2002, dir. Lucas)
3
4%
Revenge of the Sith (2005, dir. Lucas)
15
18%
 
Total votes : 84

Re: Star Wars

Postby miguelnuva » Tue Mar 13, 2012 4:55 pm

JVM wrote:The first season of Clone Wars was pretty bad - too many Anakin-Ashoka-Obiwan episodes. Ashoka ruins the character dynamic there; she's tolerable when she's just with Anakin, but when with both of them, the repetition is quite annoying. There was also a ton of Battle Droid humor, which got old, fast, especially since unlike Jar-Jar, who's a sentient being, Battle Droids are robots, so the idea of them making unintentionally smartass remarks and such is nonsensical unless programmed as such.

I don't think I saw any of Season 2, not even the Zillo Beast arc, but Seasons 3 and 4, excluding a few choice moments (the Mortis trilogy, Even Piell's last scene, Anakin's angst when Ashoka disappears) have generally been big improvements. The overall Nightsisters arc between both seasons in particular, even if it has some weak dialogue, has a great over-arching story going on, even if the Bounty one made me facepalm for most of it's ending.

Also, I think the series works very strongly when they involve non-traditional elements. Chewbacca, Tarkin, and Darth Maul have been treated rather respectfully, and Even Piell was doing quite well until he received quite a lame death.

I hate to say it though, I do look forward to Ashoka and Rex's "deaths". Considering they wrote out Piell to explain his pseudo-absence in ROTS, I'm quite sure they'll kill them both off. James Arnold Taylor, Obi-Wan's voice actor, even hinted towards Ashoka's death.

Of course, they might be cheap and let her survive Order 66 somehow.


Wait when did they say Rex dies I thought he was in order 66?
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Re: Star Wars

Postby Malchik » Tue Mar 13, 2012 11:08 pm

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miguelnuva wrote:Wait when did they say Rex dies I thought he was in order 66?

That's Cody.

Wait, you mean a modern Star Wars character has been named something other than a bad Bantu sounding name?
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Re: Star Wars

Postby miguelnuva » Wed Mar 14, 2012 12:11 am

Mothra Freak wrote:
miguelnuva wrote:Wait when did they say Rex dies I thought he was in order 66?

That's Cody.


No I mean I thought he was with Anakin on the march of the jedi temple.
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Re: Star Wars

Postby o.supreme » Wed Mar 14, 2012 6:40 am

JVM wrote:Of course, they might be cheap and let her survive Order 66 somehow.


That's what I'm thinking. I think because she is a creation of The Clone Wars series, she should die when it ends, but I'm thinking they wont have the guts to do it. But then again, you never know.
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Re: Star Wars

Postby Gorosaurus Rex » Wed Mar 14, 2012 2:19 pm

Rex, like Ahsoka, is an enigma. We don't know what happens to him, which makes him one of the more interesting characters in the show in my opinion. Its partially why I adore the Umbara arc we had this season so much.
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Re: Star Wars

Postby JVM » Wed Mar 14, 2012 3:58 pm

The 501st Legion's had a quite a few Commanders - Appo, Alpha, another one I'm unaware of, and Rex in the series, yeah.

Umbara arc? I didn't catch that one, what was in it?
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Re: Star Wars

Postby GodzillavsZilla » Wed Mar 14, 2012 4:01 pm

JVM wrote:The 501st Legion's had a quite a few Commanders - Appo, Alpha, another one I'm unaware of, and Rex in the series, yeah.

Umbara arc? I didn't catch that one, what was in it?

There was also one named Commander Fox

And the Umbara arc was the episodes with Krell
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Re: Star Wars

Postby Gorosaurus Rex » Wed Mar 14, 2012 4:41 pm

JVM wrote:The 501st Legion's had a quite a few Commanders - Appo, Alpha, another one I'm unaware of, and Rex in the series, yeah.

Umbara arc? I didn't catch that one, what was in it?


Its a four part clone centric arc that follows the Republic's attempts to retake Umbara. One of the episodes was directed by Walter Murch, editor of Apocalypse Now and numerous other famous movies. In my opinion its the best the series has ever been.
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Re: Star Wars

Postby miguelnuva » Sat Apr 14, 2012 3:56 am

I know I said this before but after watching the blu-ray changes wouldn't it be easier for GL to just remake star wars 4,5 and 6 and then release the original 77,80,83 versions alongside the remade versions on blu-ray?
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Re: Star Wars

Postby SoleMan » Sat Apr 14, 2012 4:57 am

I've been into Star Wars ever since I was three years old (I think--you can't remember when you're three) and love the original trilogy as a masterwork of cinema. The prequels are tolerable in my opinion, but the only thing that could best my passion for Luke, Vader, Han, Boba, Chewy and all the rest is the mighty king himself: Godzilla (But you already knew that, didn't you?)

I didn't vote, because there was no "all of the above" option.
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Re: Star Wars

Postby Ethan » Sat Apr 14, 2012 9:21 am

I know I said this before but after watching the blu-ray changes wouldn't it be easier for GL to just remake star wars 4,5 and 6 and then release the original 77,80,83 versions alongside the remade versions on blu-ray?

People have been telling him to do that for quite a while. Alas his pride is way too big.
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Re: Star Wars

Postby miguelnuva » Sat Apr 14, 2012 1:33 pm

Yeah whats the point of arguing that the original trilogy shouldn't be remade if Lucas is going to change them every new release. I just found out myself I've never seen the original original trilogy due to all the changes done to them.
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Re: Star Wars

Postby DaiKamonohashi » Sat Apr 14, 2012 3:10 pm

miguelnuva wrote:Yeah whats the point of arguing that the original trilogy shouldn't be remade if Lucas is going to change them every new release. I just found out myself I've never seen the original original trilogy due to all the changes done to them.


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Re: Star Wars

Postby omgitsgodzilla » Sat Apr 14, 2012 8:52 pm

miguelnuva - PM me.
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Re: Star Wars

Postby The One and Only » Sat May 05, 2012 6:46 am

The guy George Lucas should hand the reigns of the franchise over to...(http://spinoff.comicbookresources.com/2012/05/03/joss-whedon-does-star-wars-good-idea-or-the-best-idea/) ?
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Re: Star Wars

Postby Wataru » Sat May 05, 2012 7:01 am

I like Whedon but Im going to say no on letting him do a Star Wars. JJ Abrams sure.
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Re: Star Wars

Postby omgitsgodzilla » Sat May 05, 2012 7:10 am

In any case, we should get a decent director and have him re-do the prequels.
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Re: Star Wars

Postby GodzillavsZilla » Sat May 05, 2012 7:40 am

I don't think Star Wars should be re-done, in my opinion, Star Wars was good the way it was before.
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Re: Star Wars

Postby Wataru » Sat May 05, 2012 8:13 am

Just ignore the pre-quels. IMHO theyre inferior to ALL comic and novel EU writings. Even the EU writing involving the prequels is better.

No, what we need is a Thrawn triology. And I think it should be a colaboration between JJ Abrams and Peter Jackson, Lucas and Spielberg can executive produce but Lucas needs to step the skreeonk back. AND DONT GO APE SHIT ON THE CGI. It IMHO ruined most of the prequels and KotCS.
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Re: Star Wars

Postby miguelnuva » Sat May 05, 2012 10:59 am

I still don't get all the hate the prequels get. They seem like fun movies to me and nothing beats the originals in movie series anyway.

The main problem I hear with the prequels is they were a love story and most guys don't like love stories and guys are star wars's main fanbase.

Now what would be cool is if the last Clone Wars Season showed around Operation Knightfall.
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Re: Star Wars

Postby Tyler » Sat May 05, 2012 1:18 pm

I recently watched the Plinkett prequel reviews and he tore them UP.
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