The Disney Thread.
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I don't know how to feel about "The Little Mermaid" casting. For those who don't know, Haile Berry is taking the place of Ariel, who was played by white actress Jodi Benson for the reboot. That's my problem there: Isn't this kind of reverse white-washing? Like, instead of a white actor/actress taking the place of someone of a different race, it's the other way around? If so, that's kind of racist.
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Ever since the Ducktales reoot aired its episode revealing the whereabouts of Della Duck, Donald's sister and the mother of his triplet nephews, she has become one of my all-time favorite Disney characters.
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One perspective:HillyHulk wrote:I don't know how to feel about "The Little Mermaid" casting. For those who don't know, Haile Berry is taking the place of Ariel, who was played by white actress Jodi Benson for the reboot. That's my problem there: Isn't this kind of reverse white-washing? Like, instead of a white actor/actress taking the place of someone of a different race, it's the other way around? If so, that's kind of racist.
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Well, one of the tweets have a point: in a country focusing on equality, we should be respectful of all races including Caucasians. As for the last point: because being okay with placing someone of a different race taking the place of a white character (both in the films and original story as far as I looked up (but I could be wrong there)) but not the other way around is hypocritical. Unless it's an animated show/film because the race isn't as important since you don't clearly see the race of a voice actor the way you would a physical actor, neither should be okay.Godzilla21 wrote:One perspective:HillyHulk wrote:I don't know how to feel about "The Little Mermaid" casting. For those who don't know, Haile Berry is taking the place of Ariel, who was played by white actress Jodi Benson for the reboot. That's my problem there: Isn't this kind of reverse white-washing? Like, instead of a white actor/actress taking the place of someone of a different race, it's the other way around? If so, that's kind of racist.
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"Oh yes, the whites are at it again."
I think I'mma have to stop right there lol. Seems to be a bit of a bias.
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Can't we all just take a step back and get along lol?
I think I'mma have to stop right there lol. Seems to be a bit of a bias.
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I agree with all of this, but that first point is major.HillyHulk wrote:Well, one of the tweets have a point: in a country focusing on equality, we should be respectful of all races including Caucasians. As for the last point: because being okay with placing someone of a different race taking the place of a white character (both in the films and original story as far as I looked up (but I could be wrong there)) but not the other way around is hypocritical. Unless it's an animated show/film because the race isn't as important since you don't clearly see the race of a voice actor the way you would a physical actor, neither should be okay.Godzilla21 wrote:One perspective:HillyHulk wrote:I don't know how to feel about "The Little Mermaid" casting. For those who don't know, Haile Berry is taking the place of Ariel, who was played by white actress Jodi Benson for the reboot. That's my problem there: Isn't this kind of reverse white-washing? Like, instead of a white actor/actress taking the place of someone of a different race, it's the other way around? If so, that's kind of racist.
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Can't we all just take a step back and get along lol?
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Re: The Disney Thread.
Look at the bright side
At least they haven't touched the Emperors new Groove and Lio and Sitch
Oh wait, NO-
At least they haven't touched the Emperors new Groove and Lio and Sitch
Oh wait, NO-
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The latter is inevitable. Just wait for the very nightmare fuel that'll be CGI live-action Stitch.ROMG4 wrote:Look at the bright side
At least they haven't touched the Emperors new Groove and Lio and Sitch
Oh wait, NO-
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NO, NO, NO!GodzillaFan1990's wrote:The latter is inevitable. Just wait for the very nightmare fuel that'll be CGI live-action Stitch.ROMG4 wrote:Look at the bright side
At least they haven't touched the Emperors new Groove and Lio and Sitch
Oh wait, NO-
I REJECT this potential timeline, I reject it!
They can't, they won't do it
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Like I said, I personally don't care as I was never interested in it or ANY of the live-action Disney remakes regardless of who was cast (I didn't care about Will Smith as Genie, either, it wasn't on my radar), but the lengths defenders of this move will go to twist anything that isn't gleefully praising them raceswapping a white redheaded character with open arms as being anti-diversity on social media is batshit fucking insane (I praised films like Us and Get Out as steps in the right direction for black representation and condemned whitewashing multiple times thankyouverymuch). I've even seen a user's girlfriend who says the animated film is her favorite movie's nostalgia be twisted as "you're nostalgic for characters being white? That's racist!"HillyHulk wrote:Well, one of the tweets have a point: in a country focusing on equality, we should be respectful of all races including Caucasians. As for the last point: because being okay with placing someone of a different race taking the place of a white character (both in the films and original story as far as I looked up (but I could be wrong there)) but not the other way around is hypocritical. Unless it's an animated show/film because the race isn't as important since you don't clearly see the race of a voice actor the way you would a physical actor, neither should be okay.Godzilla21 wrote:One perspective:HillyHulk wrote:I don't know how to feel about "The Little Mermaid" casting. For those who don't know, Haile Berry is taking the place of Ariel, who was played by white actress Jodi Benson for the reboot. That's my problem there: Isn't this kind of reverse white-washing? Like, instead of a white actor/actress taking the place of someone of a different race, it's the other way around? If so, that's kind of racist.
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No shit Sherlock, if they love the original film, then of course they love the original design, hence the disappointment they MAY have. Same reason why many people couldn't see anyone else playing Wolverine besides Hugh Jackman.
They often say "race isn't important for the character" as a rebuttal, yet we all know they'd lose their shit if Marvel cast Jason Statham as Blade tomorrow, which I'd be on their side. It may not be important to his character, but that doesn't mean a white(washed) actor will capture his mannerisms, charisma, or anything else people have come to know and love about the character played by Wesley Snipes.
The hypocrisy is on both sides: a lot of people who bitch about blackwashing characters defend whitewashing. It flies in the face of their "I just want characters to be faithful to the source material" counterarguments, and it gives the other side ammo to call them racist.
Oh, and yes, I know the original film still exists for fans of the original, but it's not as black and white as these people are claiming.
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Lion King sitting at 59% at RT
"A well-rendered but creatively bankrupt self-portrait of a movie studio eating its own tail."
"A well-rendered but creatively bankrupt self-portrait of a movie studio eating its own tail."
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Oof, now that's a shocker.Godzilla21 wrote:Lion King sitting at 59% at RT
"A well-rendered but creatively bankrupt self-portrait of a movie studio eating its own tail."
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Oh so Lion King is a less-good remake of a movie made 2 and a 1/2 decades ago?
I am like so totally shocked and stuff.
I am like so totally shocked and stuff.
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OUCH. still think it's gonna make a billion or so and the score can easily change but still.
And somehow people still believe Disney is paying off the critics... how?
And somehow people still believe Disney is paying off the critics... how?
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Good.Godzilla21 wrote:Lion King sitting at 59% at RT
"A well-rendered but creatively bankrupt self-portrait of a movie studio eating its own tail."
As all things should be.
*Crossing fingers it'll get lower*
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It probably will. Its already at 90 reviews. Usually goes lower rather than higher after that many reviewsGodzillaFan1990's wrote:Good.Godzilla21 wrote:Lion King sitting at 59% at RT
"A well-rendered but creatively bankrupt self-portrait of a movie studio eating its own tail."
As all things should be.
*Crossing fingers it'll get lower*
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Meanwhile Crawl (2019) sits at 100% with 14 reviews.Godzilla21 wrote:It probably will. Its already at 90 reviews. Usually goes lower rather than higher after that many reviews
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The Crawl trailers reminded me of old school Evil Dead.GodzillaFan1990's wrote:Meanwhile Crawl (2019) sits at 100% with 14 reviews.Godzilla21 wrote:It probably will. Its already at 90 reviews. Usually goes lower rather than higher after that many reviews
Plus the theme they've been using? Catchy af.
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The great Sam Raimi was involved with Crawl so not surprised it has an Evil Dead vibe.
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Ariel's character being changed to a Black girl is different because she is a mermaid number 1 and number 2 Disney created her. Disney.making her Black now is no different then Togo changing Heisei Godzilla to Godzilla 2000 or even to Shin Godzilla.
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