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Postby PopInPicsPresents » Fri Apr 06, 2012 10:22 am

Rody wrote:Those were pretty cool scenes; but those kaiju were defeated way too easily.


^Pretty much what I have to say. Black King, Antlar and Tyrant have been overly pussified. Can't say I'm surprised with the bad reviews though.
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Postby HikizuruBeat » Fri Apr 06, 2012 11:06 am

I saw the preview a week ago and I really liked it a lot.
I hope subs come out for it soon.
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Re: ULTRA-THREAD

Postby Petezilla » Fri Apr 06, 2012 11:59 am

RedZillaKing wrote:This movie [Ultraman Saga] seems to be getting negative reviews. That's unfortunate as the previews, monster designs/suits, and sets looked great.

Really? Any source(s)...? I really hope that's not true for I urgently need ULTRA-ACT figures of Ultraman Saga, Hyper Zetton and Tyrant and there's a good chance that BANDAI will never consider (or cancel) them - just like they did with all the Godzilla Final Wars Kaiju vinyls, which were announced back the day, but then never saw the light of day due to the movie receiving bad reviews! It'd be a real shame if this happens again to the Ultraman Saga movie... :?
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Re: ULTRA-THREAD

Postby Legion1979 » Fri Apr 06, 2012 12:19 pm

If we were getting more movie-related stuff for Saga wouldn't we know by now?
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Re: ULTRA-THREAD

Postby RedZillaKing » Fri Apr 06, 2012 12:25 pm

Not necessarily. Bandai may be waiting to see if the film does well. Remember how long it took for the Zero Force to be announced...

Pete, my sole source was a blurb from JEFusion. Something about opening at 4th amidst negative feedback. :(
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Postby PopInPicsPresents » Fri Apr 06, 2012 12:30 pm

http://www.scifijapan.com/articles/2012 ... aman-saga/

Here's one, he makes it sound like an overly kiddish take on Ultraman with quite a bit of stupid humor.
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Re: ULTRA-THREAD

Postby Godzilla 2000 » Fri Apr 06, 2012 12:45 pm

PopInPicsPresents wrote:http://www.scifijapan.com/articles/2012/03/06/review-ultraman-saga/

Here's one, he makes it sound like an overly kiddish take on Ultraman with quite a bit of stupid humor.


That is just James's opinion, and it seems to be in the minority.

Dont take his word as gospel or anything like that. I say wait until you see the movie yourself before anything else.
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Re: ULTRA-THREAD

Postby RedZillaKing » Fri Apr 06, 2012 12:58 pm

Godzilla 2000 wrote:That is just James's opinion, and it seems to be in the minority.

I really hope so. Must. Have. HYPER ZETTON ULTRA ACT!!!
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Re: ULTRA-THREAD

Postby Draglord » Fri Apr 06, 2012 1:14 pm

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Godzilla 2000 wrote:That is just James's opinion, and it seems to be in the minority.

I really hope so. Must. Have. HYPER ZETTON ULTRA ACT!!!

Considering Bandai's Ultraman Saga and Hyper Zetton action figures sold like crazy, I would be very surprised if HZ or Saga don't get Ultra Act figures. So far Ultraman Saga has been doing fairly well box office wise, it made 340 million yen in the first 9 days. I think its already made the same amount of money Revenge of Belial did or at least its around there. Then there's also foreign countries like China that play these films as well, so it might make as much money as UGL did or maybe even Super Ultra 8 Bros.
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Re: ULTRA-THREAD

Postby DaiKamonohashi » Fri Apr 06, 2012 2:38 pm

PopInPicsPresents wrote:
Rody wrote:Those were pretty cool scenes; but those kaiju were defeated way too easily.


^Pretty much what I have to say. Black King, Antlar and Tyrant have been overly pussified. Can't say I'm surprised with the bad reviews though.


We don't know if that's the entire scene though. Those bits were taken from the first and last parts of the Retsuden episode - there could easily be more to the battle that wasn't shown.
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Re: ULTRA-THREAD

Postby Destroyer » Fri Apr 06, 2012 8:46 pm

Just ran into the episode with Dorako, Gigas, and the return of Red King. Fantastic episode, I gained some respect for Red King. Dorako is also pretty awesome, perhaps my third favorite Ultra monster. He does remind me of Gigan, the way he fights and everything.
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Re: ULTRA-THREAD

Postby Petezilla » Sat Apr 07, 2012 12:20 am

Legion1979 wrote:If we were getting more movie-related stuff for Saga wouldn't we know by now?
RedZillaKing wrote:Not necessarily. Bandai may be waiting to see if the film does well. Remember how long it took for the Zero Force to be announced...


Yep, Genfire, Mirror Knight and Jean-bot took month after the movie to get revealed. So there's still a bit of hope on the horizon for Hyper Zetton and Saga...
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Re: ULTRA-THREAD

Postby Legion1979 » Sat Apr 07, 2012 5:22 am

Godzilla 2000 wrote:That is just James's opinion, and it seems to be in the minority.


How is it the minority when we haven't seen anyone else actually review it yet?
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Re: ULTRA-THREAD

Postby RedZillaKing » Sat Apr 07, 2012 6:37 am

^Maybe he's referring to the fact that people are still seeing the movie. Either way there's hope yet for Hyper Zetton.

@PiPP: if that was the entire fight it was really disappointing. However, like the man said, it may have just been bits of the fight. Still, there's something very wrong about seeing Antlar defeated by a Specium ray.

@Draglord: where do you get your box office info?
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Re: ULTRA-THREAD

Postby DaiKamonohashi » Sat Apr 07, 2012 9:48 am

Legion1979 wrote:
Godzilla 2000 wrote:That is just James's opinion, and it seems to be in the minority.


How is it the minority when we haven't seen anyone else actually review it yet?


http://info.movies.yahoo.co.jp/userrevi ... 061/s0/or1

Japanese audiences seem to be responding more positively than Westerners who've seen the movie. Jim, his friend JR, and one Tom Constantine were all fairly disappointed with the film, while many Japanese viewers are giving it four and five star ratings, as seen there on Yahoo!Japan.
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Re: ULTRA-THREAD

Postby Draglord » Sat Apr 07, 2012 9:59 am

RedZillaKing wrote:@Draglord: where do you get your box office info?


Scroll down to the very bottom of this link: http://forums.henshinjustice.com/showth ... 4&page=164

I have to agree with Dai, I hope there's a director's cut or something. I'm gonna be pissed if Black King gets stuck in yet another crappy fight *Glares at UGL*.

Dai, don't most Ultramen/Kamen Rider/Sentai movies make their money from toy sales?
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Re: ULTRA-THREAD

Postby DaiKamonohashi » Sat Apr 07, 2012 10:30 am

I enjoyed Legends' Black King fight... >>

And, yes, I believe most of the money for these franchises is in the toy sales but that doesn't change the fact that Rider films seem to be box office gold compared to Ultra films most of the time. :|
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Re: ULTRA-THREAD

Postby Jomei » Sat Apr 07, 2012 5:23 pm

DaiKamonohashi wrote:And, yes, I believe most of the money for these franchises is in the toy sales but that doesn't change the fact that Rider films seem to be box office gold compared to Ultra films most of the time. :|


Are we talking about box office ticket sales or quality of films? If the former I can't comment, but if the latter... I disagree. Granted, I haven't seen the majority of either franchise's films, but what I have seen has been much stronger in the Ultra series. :eh:
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Re: ULTRA-THREAD

Postby Draglord » Sat Apr 07, 2012 5:57 pm

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DaiKamonohashi wrote:And, yes, I believe most of the money for these franchises is in the toy sales but that doesn't change the fact that Rider films seem to be box office gold compared to Ultra films most of the time. :|


Are we talking about box office ticket sales or quality of films? If the former I can't comment, but if the latter... I disagree. Granted, I haven't seen the majority of either franchise's films, but what I have seen has been much stronger in the Ultra series. :eh:


He meant ticket sales. Usually Kamen Rider or Sentai flicks outdo Ultraman films when it comes to ticket sales. I believe it was one of the reasons why Revenge of Belial didn't do so great at the box office plus the fact that it was played at only 169 theaters, I think (Saga is being played in over 300 theaters in Japan).
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Re: ULTRA-THREAD

Postby Crocodile » Sun Apr 08, 2012 1:13 am

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DaiKamonohashi wrote:And, yes, I believe most of the money for these franchises is in the toy sales but that doesn't change the fact that Rider films seem to be box office gold compared to Ultra films most of the time. :|


Are we talking about box office ticket sales or quality of films? If the former I can't comment, but if the latter... I disagree. Granted, I haven't seen the majority of either franchise's films, but what I have seen has been much stronger in the Ultra series. :eh:


He meant ticket sales. Usually Kamen Rider or Sentai flicks outdo Ultraman films when it comes to ticket sales. I believe it was one of the reasons why Revenge of Belial didn't do so great at the box office plus the fact that it was played at only 169 theaters, I think (Saga is being played in over 300 theaters in Japan).


Well Sentai and Rider are usually double-billed in the summer. And of course there's the usual Last Year X This Movie in both Rider and Sentai.

And the fact, that given their continued presence on TV, Rider and Sentai are probably more relevant to Japan's youngest audiences.

You can find a number of ways to explain that, assuming it's true at all. I won't pretend to know.
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