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Re: Official Spider Man Reboot Thread

Postby Hotrod93 » Fri Aug 13, 2010 2:40 pm

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Raimi pretty much said skreeonk it, Toby quit(Last I heard).

Raimi screwed Venom up badly along, Im glad to see him gone. Fresh ideas and new villians that need to be in a Spidey film.
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Re: Official Spider Man Reboot Thread

Postby Tyler » Fri Aug 13, 2010 6:49 pm

People need to lay off Raimi when it comes to Spidey 3. He wanted Vulture dammit. Marvel (or whoever the hell) made him stick in Venom instead. With that it messed up the movie he originally had in mind. We have no idea how that would've turned out but I'm sure it would've been better than dancing emo Peter. But his Spidey 4 idea was funky though...

Spider-Man's my favourite Mavel hero so I hope this film turns out well. Lizard FTW.
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Re: Official Spider Man Reboot Thread

Postby Hotrod93 » Fri Aug 13, 2010 7:45 pm

Tyler wrote:People need to lay off Raimi when it comes to Spidey 3. He wanted Vulture dammit. Marvel (or whoever the hell) made him stick in Venom instead. With that it messed up the movie he originally had in mind. We have no idea how that would've turned out but I'm sure it would've been better than dancing emo Peter. But his Spidey 4 idea was funky though...

Spider-Man's my favourite Mavel hero so I hope this film turns out well. Lizard FTW.


Sorry to anyone who are Vulture fans but Vulture wouldnt have been as good a character as venom should have been. Plus Raimi could have atleast tried with Venom but didnt, he stated before that he didnt like him so of course he wasnt goes to do shit for him and gave him a little role and thats why I wont lay off of him about it.

Vulture would have just flew around until Peter shot him in the eyes with web and Vulture would run into a building or somthing like that.
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Re: Official Spider Man Reboot Thread

Postby Hellspawn28 » Fri Aug 13, 2010 7:47 pm

SM3 would have been great if they made the movie longer since they could have been have more time on the characters.
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Re: Official Spider Man Reboot Thread

Postby DaikaijuSokogeki! » Sat Aug 14, 2010 4:15 am

I'm sorry, but I entirely believe SM3 was a f*ck-up on Sony's part and not Raimi's. I will admit Raimi isn't totally blameless, but it's unfair to say the entire mess was HIS fault alone.

For starters, Sony gave SM3 WAY too high of a budget and this would probably intimidate a director famous for making lower-budgeted fare. He worked fine with the first two films, but the third one had the largest budget for an American made film up to that point (I'm unsure if Avatar passed it or not). That's a huge difference. Second, in almost a flashback to WB's treatment of Tim Burton after Batman Returns, Sony, for some ungodly reason, had no faith in Raimi and breathed down his neck to make sure he made a film that would be as commercial as possible instead of letting him do his own shtick. In the case of Burton, he ended up leaving the director's chair entirely and stepped into a producing role for Batman Forever, something I'm not sure if Raimi was in a secure enough position to do. This was why Venom was thrown in, because he is a very marketable (*coughandheavilyoverratedcough*) character to fans of the franchise. Yes, Raimi could've handled it MUCH better, but the film was bloated enough without Venom needing to make an entrance. If anything, most of the blame should be put on Sam's brother Ivan for writing such a bloated script in the first place.

So, while Sam Raimi could've done more, he probably just didn't have the room to do so. He had a strict release date to abide by and a studio that wouldn't let him do what made the first two work so successfully. I'm glad Raimi stepped out of SM4, but I'm disgusted in the reasons leading up to his departure. Sounded like Sony was getting ready for another royal screw-job and Raimi, this time around, knew better than to be f*cked over again.

So, I have no intention of seeing a Spider-Man intended for the Twilight crowd made solely for the boosted 3D ticket prices. Something tells me that this film will be as much of a misfire as SM3 was.
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Re: Official Spider Man Reboot Thread

Postby mecha-gino » Thu Aug 19, 2010 2:44 pm

Apperently Mary Jane will not be in the reboot and.... Do they really expect for a 2011 release? As I'm still doubting it will get released by then and even worse is the fact the license is getting close to expiring.
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Re: Official Spider Man Reboot Thread

Postby zilla103192 » Thu Aug 19, 2010 2:59 pm

^ where did you hear that MJ wont be in it?!

and what do you guys hope for
-organic webbing
-wrist gauntlets

idf go for the organic webbing idea... i like it
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Re: Official Spider Man Reboot Thread

Postby Arbok » Thu Aug 19, 2010 3:24 pm

mecha-gino wrote:As I'm still doubting it will get released by then and even worse is the fact the license is getting close to expiring.


I was under the impression Sony actually has the movie license for quite awhile longer, due to the fact that they gave up the TV rights in 2009 in exchange for something (my guess is this):

(8/27/09), Vic Cook and I were informed that in exchange for some concession vis-a-vis the live action Spider-Man features, Sony returned the television rights (including the animated television rights) for Spider-Man to Marvel. This took place the day before ComicCon, I'm told. But I was only informed of it this past week.

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Re: Official Spider Man Reboot Thread

Postby Hellspawn28 » Thu Aug 19, 2010 3:55 pm

They start filming in March in LA, and by the end of 2011 then we should get a trailer. I hope we get a full title for the movie soon.
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Re: Official Spider Man Reboot Thread

Postby mecha-gino » Thu Aug 19, 2010 4:03 pm

zilla103192 wrote:^ where did you hear that MJ wont be in it?!

and what do you guys hope for
-organic webbing
-wrist gauntlets

idf go for the organic webbing idea... i like it

Superhero hype.

And what I would like to see is James Camron's take on it or atleast the script to it, for those who don't know originally in the 90's spidey was suppose to have a movie by the creator of avatar but I forgot what happens.

What would be an interesting like idea is have spider-man dealing with his mutation of him slowly becoming the man-spider.
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Re: Official Spider Man Reboot Thread

Postby Hellspawn28 » Thu Aug 19, 2010 4:07 pm

James Cameron's Spider-Man movie that was plan back in 94 or 95, had Spider-Man having sex with MJ on the Twin Towers and killing a Man. I doubt it would have done well if it was made at the time.
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Re: Official Spider Man Reboot Thread

Postby mecha-gino » Thu Aug 19, 2010 6:26 pm

Hellspawn28 wrote:James Cameron's Spider-Man movie that was plan back in 94 or 95, had Spider-Man having sex with MJ on the Twin Towers and killing a Man. I doubt it would have done well if it was made at the time.

Now that sounds like an interesting plot, and I also liked the idea of Peter having a wetdream only to find webbding everywhere but it doesn't really scream kid friendly as the animated show that was suppose to tie-in with.

But I'm all for that new different idea.
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Re: Official Spider Man Reboot Thread

Postby Hellspawn28 » Thu Aug 19, 2010 6:35 pm

The only issue with a dark and bloody Spider-Man movie is that it will turn people off. People are used to the kid friendy Spider-Man, and will likely not make much money as SM 1-3 due to the dark tone of the movie.
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Re: Official Spider Man Reboot Thread

Postby Gorosaurus Rex » Fri Aug 20, 2010 6:28 pm

I actually prefer the Gwen Peter relationship, especially if its portrayed with the same heart and emotion as the Spectacular Spider-man series.
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Re: Official Spider Man Reboot Thread

Postby Tyler » Fri Aug 20, 2010 6:56 pm

mecha-gino wrote:Now that sounds like an interesting plot, and I also liked the idea of Peter having a wetdream only to find webbding everywhere but it doesn't really scream kid friendly as the animated show that was suppose to tie-in with.


He's not the only teenager shooting sticky stuff. But I hope they use webshooters, the fake ones anyway. Gwen would be nice too.
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Re: Official Spider Man Reboot Thread

Postby Hellspawn28 » Fri Aug 20, 2010 8:11 pm

David Fincher (Alien 3, Fight Club, and Social Network) talks about the reboot movie.

http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/ ... s/?a=21681

David almost direct the first SM movie after James Cameron left when the movie had a 1994 or 1995 release date. I remember reading that his movie had Spider-Man dieing at the end of the movie.
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Re: Official Spider Man Reboot Thread

Postby DaikaijuSokogeki! » Sat Aug 21, 2010 8:33 am

So Fincher can't accept a guy who shoots webs from his hands, but he can accept a guy who ages backwards?
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Re: Official Spider Man Reboot Thread

Postby zilla103192 » Sat Aug 21, 2010 10:41 am

well DUH!!! i mean a man with spider powers? that cant ever happen...

but an old man that turns into a baby... i see that every day!!









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Re: Official Spider Man Reboot Thread

Postby Hellspawn28 » Sat Aug 21, 2010 10:53 am

I'm gald he did not direct Spider-Man since the idea of Spider-Man getting killed at the end of the movie sounds awful.
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Re: Official Spider Man Reboot Thread

Postby Spirit Ghidorah 2010 » Sat Aug 21, 2010 10:57 am

DaikaijuSokogeki! wrote:So Fincher can't accept a guy who shoots webs from his hands, but he can accept a guy who ages backwards?

And apparently he can accept a Xeno egg magically appearing on a ship even though the Queen died before it laid any eggs.
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