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I just wanted Beta Ray Bill and Fat Thor battle it out for the right to be god of thunder
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NSZ wrote:EXTRA! EXTRA! SPIDER-MAN OUT OF THE MCU!
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Sony continues to shoot themselves in the foot. Idiots.
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Nah, Disney fucked this one trying to get more money; they were already getting a nice percentage but insisted on 50-50 for future films after Far From Home did gangbusters, so Sony decided that with the most profitable franchise they’ve had in years they didn’t want to split profits like thatUltramanGoji wrote:Sony continues to shoot themselves in the foot. Idiots.
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I don't see how this is the problem when the Disney connection is practically the only reason these films made as much money as they do.G2000 wrote:Nah, Disney fucked this one trying to get more money; they were already getting a nice percentage but insisted on 50-50 for future films after Far From Home did gangbusters, so Sony decided that with the most profitable franchise they’ve had in years they didn’t want to split profits like thatUltramanGoji wrote:Sony continues to shoot themselves in the foot. Idiots.
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I feel like we're kind of overemphasizing the importance of the MCU to these films. Like, yeah, sure he gets to go on spy adventures with Nick Fury and fight with Iron Man and what not, but the main reason these films are good IMHO is the story and what not.UltramanGoji wrote:I don't see how this is the problem when the Disney connection is practically the only reason these films made as much money as they do.G2000 wrote:Nah, Disney skreeonked this one trying to get more money; they were already getting a nice percentage but insisted on 50-50 for future films after Far From Home did gangbusters, so Sony decided that with the most profitable franchise they’ve had in years they didn’t want to split profits like thatUltramanGoji wrote:Sony continues to shoot themselves in the foot. Idiots.
Not saying this isn't a bad idea (it is) but it's not like the only reason Amazing Spider-Man 2 failed was no MCU connections.
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Bad part about this: I loved Tom Holland's version of Spidey so knowing he won't be around anymore hurts...
Good part: I also loved Venom and i know Sony's planning to have him and Spidey fight and i'm all for it!
Good part: I also loved Venom and i know Sony's planning to have him and Spidey fight and i'm all for it!
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I didn't say these films weren't good enough on their own, but you cannot deny the drawing power of being connected to the MCU. FFH was heavily marketed as the epilogue to Endgame and the Infinity Saga and Homecoming was widely anticipated as the first MCU Spider-Man film.
I do agree that it was foolish to say it's the "only reason" people see these movies, but I still stand by that it's one of the main draws.
I do agree that it was foolish to say it's the "only reason" people see these movies, but I still stand by that it's one of the main draws.
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Are you fucking kidding me?NSZ wrote:EXTRA! EXTRA! SPIDER-MAN OUT OF THE MCU!
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Here's a hot take, the Sony flicks were better made, had their own character to them, had a certain tone that just cannot be replicated in the MCU(maybe that of actual independence and tragedy?), Tom Holland Spiderman may work for "Muh comic Acurracie" but his entire vibe is that of some goodie two shoes boy scout suck-up in middle school with a blend of Ferris Bueller's day off. Not a fan at all, it may work to define the little storyline they managed to tell, but it does not work as a unique characterization of Spiderman as an entity, treating the whole Spidey thing as an after school daydream.
It's a positive that Sony pulled the IP from Disney, and they've done nothing to make me think otherwise, Venom and Into The Spiderverse were FANTASTIC films that felt independent from all the generic ice cream of the week MCU flicks. I really hope they get to define Peter Parker as his own person independent of everyone else again, hopefully they get Peter Parker duking it out with Venom, followed by a trip through the Spiderverse with his fellow Spider-friends Andrew and Tobey.
It's a positive that Sony pulled the IP from Disney, and they've done nothing to make me think otherwise, Venom and Into The Spiderverse were FANTASTIC films that felt independent from all the generic ice cream of the week MCU flicks. I really hope they get to define Peter Parker as his own person independent of everyone else again, hopefully they get Peter Parker duking it out with Venom, followed by a trip through the Spiderverse with his fellow Spider-friends Andrew and Tobey.
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I just heard the news.......OMG! I mean, why? God, why must you test us at every God damn turn. I'm keeping hope alive but know its clinging to dear life like that cat on the tree. Oh Lawd take me instead.......take........me...........instead.
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Less Iron-Man Jr and factory made garbage sounds like a win-win.NSZ wrote:EXTRA! EXTRA! SPIDER-MAN OUT OF THE MCU!
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Whatever happened to making 1 billion keeping it in the MCU?
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fair. Agreed on that point, and again, I'm being optimistic, but this probably won't end wellUltramanGoji wrote:I didn't say these films weren't good enough on their own, but you cannot deny the drawing power of being connected to the MCU. FFH was heavily marketed as the epilogue to Endgame and the Infinity Saga and Homecoming was widely anticipated as the first MCU Spider-Man film.
I do agree that it was foolish to say it's the "only reason" people see these movies, but I still stand by that it's one of the main draws.
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That DID happen, but Disney tried to set up a new deal that would give them 50% of all profits instead of the 15 or 20% they had for and Sony was understandably like "fuck that" and bouncedGodzillaFan1990's wrote:Whatever happened to making 1 billion keeping it in the MCU?
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rechecked. Disney was getting 5% of the profits from the Spidey flicks. That's a HELL of an increase. I can totally see why both sides did that tho
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I'm pretty sure that they weren't just asking for 10 times as much money for no extra investment, though. Previously, they were getting 5% of profits, in exchange for which they were paying Sony a flat $35 towards each movie. What they asked for in the new proposal, as I understand it, would be a 50/50 investment along with 50/50 profit sharing.SoggyNoodles2016 wrote:That DID happen, but Disney tried to set up a new deal that would give them 50% of all profits instead of the 15 or 20% they had for and Sony was understandably like "fuck that" and bounced
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rechecked. Disney was getting 5% of the profits from the Spidey flicks. That's a HELL of an increase. I can totally see why both sides did that tho
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Disney already had the merchandise revenue, getting half of the theatrical revenue is crazy
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Yup Sony, the company that butchered Spider-Man and Ghost Rider since 2007 and only made as much money off the current iteration of Spidey BECAUSE of the MCU connection is better off rebooting Spider-Man for the 4th (!) time after failing to do so TWICE on their own._JNavs_ wrote:Here's a hot take, the Sony flicks were better made, had their own character to them, had a certain tone that just cannot be replicated in the MCU(maybe that of actual independence and tragedy?), Tom Holland Spiderman may work for "Muh comic Acurracie" but his entire vibe is that of some goodie two shoes boy scout suck-up in middle school with a blend of Ferris Bueller's day off. Not a fan at all, it may work to define the little storyline they managed to tell, but it does not work as a unique characterization of Spiderman as an entity, treating the whole Spidey thing as an after school daydream.
It's a positive that Sony pulled the IP from Disney, and they've done nothing to make me think otherwise, Venom and Into The Spiderverse were FANTASTIC films that felt independent from all the generic ice cream of the week MCU flicks. I really hope they get to define Peter Parker as his own person independent of everyone else again, hopefully they get Peter Parker duking it out with Venom, followed by a trip through the Spiderverse with his fellow Spider-friends Andrew and Tobey.
Fucking idiots.
Venom was mediocre BTW.
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That is slightly more fair, yes, but from what I'm understanding, Sony was producing these money out of their own pocket, with some Marvel advisement. Spending like 160 million on budget, twice that on marketing and then only getting half of your profit back, as well as not getting most of the merchandise as Watch pointed out, is not even remotely close to fair that wayeabaker wrote:I'm pretty sure that they weren't just asking for 10 times as much money for no extra investment, though. Previously, they were getting 5% of profits, in exchange for which they were paying Sony a flat $35 towards each movie. What they asked for in the new proposal, as I understand it, would be a 50/50 investment along with 50/50 profit sharing.SoggyNoodles2016 wrote:That DID happen, but Disney tried to set up a new deal that would give them 50% of all profits instead of the 15 or 20% they had for and Sony was understandably like "skreeonk that" and bounced
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rechecked. Disney was getting 5% of the profits from the Spidey flicks. That's a HELL of an increase. I can totally see why both sides did that tho
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Not a reboot. Still doing Tom's Spidey, just not mentioning the MCU/possibly soft rebooting him for the Venomverse.KManX89 wrote:Yup Sony, the company that butchered Spider-Man and Ghost Rider since 2007 and only made as much money off the current iteration of Spidey BECAUSE of the MCU connection is better off rebooting Spider-Man for the 4th (!) time after failing to do so TWICE on their own._JNavs_ wrote:Here's a hot take, the Sony flicks were better made, had their own character to them, had a certain tone that just cannot be replicated in the MCU(maybe that of actual independence and tragedy?), Tom Holland Spiderman may work for "Muh comic Acurracie" but his entire vibe is that of some goodie two shoes boy scout suck-up in middle school with a blend of Ferris Bueller's day off. Not a fan at all, it may work to define the little storyline they managed to tell, but it does not work as a unique characterization of Spiderman as an entity, treating the whole Spidey thing as an after school daydream.
It's a positive that Sony pulled the IP from Disney, and they've done nothing to make me think otherwise, Venom and Into The Spiderverse were FANTASTIC films that felt independent from all the generic ice cream of the week MCU flicks. I really hope they get to define Peter Parker as his own person independent of everyone else again, hopefully they get Peter Parker duking it out with Venom, followed by a trip through the Spiderverse with his fellow Spider-friends Andrew and Tobey.
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Disney is being greedy as heck. Sony would be lucky to break even if Disney had 50% of the profits. A 160 million budget and 300 million ad campaign on Far From Home.
Disney already has the merchandising rights and is making more than enough on these movies from that alone.
I always told myself Disney would keep Spiderman, even if they had to PAY to use him. Guess i was wrong. They want to step on smaller companies and force them into a corner.
Disney already has the merchandising rights and is making more than enough on these movies from that alone.
I always told myself Disney would keep Spiderman, even if they had to PAY to use him. Guess i was wrong. They want to step on smaller companies and force them into a corner.
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