General Transformers Discussion

For the discussion of movies and TV shows not distributed by Toho.
User avatar
KillCrites
Interpol Agent
Posts: 568
Joined: Sat Feb 24, 2018 4:01 pm

Re: General Transformers Discussion

Postby KillCrites » Sun Mar 17, 2019 3:41 pm

Rhedosaurus wrote:
KillCrites wrote:
Rhedosaurus wrote:
Hard to justify considering how Bumblebee underperformed.

It didn't underperform.


It didn't reach the top Box Office spot once and it only made a small profit. That IS underperforming.

It made almost 4x it's budget back and Hasbro literally said themselves that it was solidly profitable.
why did i have to be the chosen one?

User avatar
Rhedosaurus
JXSDF Technician
Posts: 819
Joined: Sat Nov 24, 2018 9:55 am

Re: General Transformers Discussion

Postby Rhedosaurus » Mon Mar 18, 2019 11:12 am

KillCrites wrote:
Rhedosaurus wrote:
KillCrites wrote:It didn't underperform.


It didn't reach the top Box Office spot once and it only made a small profit. That IS underperforming.

It made almost 4x it's budget back and Hasbro literally said themselves that it was solidly profitable.


Hasbro may have simply said that just to protect its asset rather then promote the movie.

And just because something makes a profit doesn't mean that it's successful. Zilla '98, JP3, Man Of Steel, and BvS all made a profit, but few consider those movies successful.

User avatar
MechaGoji Bro7503
E.S.P.Spy
Posts: 5431
Joined: Thu Sep 01, 2016 6:02 pm
Location: Black Hole Planet 3
Contact:

Re: General Transformers Discussion

Postby MechaGoji Bro7503 » Mon Mar 18, 2019 11:29 am

Bumblebee did good enough and received great reviews. It was a success in that sense, and brought back interest in live action TF movies.
"Bang on, mate.", - Murdoc Niccals 2018.

Dv-218 wrote:This is so sad, Alexa play "Bio-Wars".

Dr. Professor wrote:If I had a dollar for every "SAVE MOTHRA" joke, I'd be able to buy Legendary Pictures, renew the license for Godzilla, acquire the rights to the rest of the Toho monsters, and make a Godzilla film that totally bombs without even putting a dent in my bank account.

"Wake the fruck up Godzilla, we got a city to burn." - Goro Maki, 2016.

User avatar
Godzilla165
E.S.P.Spy
Posts: 4994
Joined: Thu Jun 14, 2012 9:37 am

Re: General Transformers Discussion

Postby Godzilla165 » Tue Mar 19, 2019 5:39 am

Tyrant_Lizard_King wrote:Like both Transformers YouTubers Ragin Nation and Rodimus Primal have said I don't think this follow up will be an actual sequel to TLK. Simply a film that has Transformers in the title (which Bumblebee did not).

Yeah, this. I honestly don’t think that Hasbro would continue after the film that nearly killed the Transformers movie franchise, and was easily the worst ever in the series. “TF6”, will likely be similar to the Bay films in that it’s a big ensemble film, and not a solo like Bumbleee. Unless for some reason, they’d want to finish off the Bayverse by everyone fighting Unicron, but TLK muddled the lore so much that it still wouldn’t make any sense.
Image


Image

#BotM

User avatar
SonOfGorgo
JXSDF Technician
Posts: 954
Joined: Mon Jun 20, 2016 6:44 am

Re: General Transformers Discussion

Postby SonOfGorgo » Tue Mar 19, 2019 2:02 pm

Godzilla165 wrote:Unless for some reason, they’d want to finish off the Bayverse by everyone fighting Unicron, but TLK muddled the lore so much that it still wouldn’t make any sense.

Chances are, they would've just copied and pasted from Transformers Prime
Image
Image
Still the best... 8-)

User avatar
Rhedosaurus
JXSDF Technician
Posts: 819
Joined: Sat Nov 24, 2018 9:55 am

Re: General Transformers Discussion

Postby Rhedosaurus » Fri Mar 29, 2019 8:24 am

According to this, Bumblebee was a prequel/spinoff all along. It was NEVER meant to reboot the whole franchise.


User avatar
Breakdown
Kwaidan
Posts: 5846
Joined: Wed Aug 25, 2010 10:42 pm
Location: Inside you

Re: General Transformers Discussion

Postby Breakdown » Fri Mar 29, 2019 9:52 am

Rhedosaurus wrote:According to this, Bumblebee was a prequel/spinoff all along. It was NEVER meant to reboot the whole franchise.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMEIZ_e ... CueQUFxEnA

I keep getting a playback error. Also you really seem to have a vendetta against this film.
Last edited by GodzillavsZilla on Fri Mar 29, 2019 10:04 am, edited 1 time in total.
ImageBaby free at last! Thank Megatron I'm free at last!

User avatar
UltramanGoji
Seatopian Daikaiju
Posts: 14034
Joined: Fri Dec 31, 2010 11:40 am
Location: Western New York
Contact:

Re: General Transformers Discussion

Postby UltramanGoji » Fri Mar 29, 2019 11:48 am

It's not like the video's worth viewing anyway.
Image

User avatar
Rhedosaurus
JXSDF Technician
Posts: 819
Joined: Sat Nov 24, 2018 9:55 am

Re: General Transformers Discussion

Postby Rhedosaurus » Sat Mar 30, 2019 1:44 pm

Breakdown wrote:
Rhedosaurus wrote:According to this, Bumblebee was a prequel/spinoff all along. It was NEVER meant to reboot the whole franchise.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMEIZ_e ... CueQUFxEnA

I keep getting a playback error. Also you really seem to have a vendetta against this film.



No. I just have a vendetta against people who destroy franchises and prevent them from reaching their full potential.

And here's a new links. It should work this time.



UltramanGoji wrote:It's not like the video's worth viewing anyway.


Midnight's Edge is one of the best movie reporting channels there is. They were key players in reported and talking about Fant4stic, GB2016, the DCEU's troubled start, both of the Star franchises-Trek and Wars, and has talked about many others in the past-Alien and Predator.

User avatar
GodzillaFan1990's
Keizer
Posts: 9529
Joined: Sat Jan 02, 2016 1:11 pm
Location: Canada
Contact:

Re: General Transformers Discussion

Postby GodzillaFan1990's » Sat Mar 30, 2019 1:54 pm

Can't say I'm not surprised.

Reboot my ass...

Seriously Bayformers desperately needs to die at this point.

User avatar
GodzillavsZilla
Moderator
Moderator
Posts: 2974
Joined: Sat Jan 01, 2011 9:45 am
Location: somewhere riding on Anguirus

Re: General Transformers Discussion

Postby GodzillavsZilla » Sat Mar 30, 2019 1:58 pm

Rhedosaurus wrote:No. I just have a vendetta against people who destroy franchises and prevent them from reaching their full potential.

How did Bumblebee destroy the franchise? Bayformers in general, sure (even though it could be argued those movies made the franchise more popular), but Bumblebee is a good movie. If we're talking about the producers, I have no idea what's happening with what the movie is because the news is so muddled about whether it's a prequel or a reboot. One day it's one, the other day it's the other, I just wish they would make up their minds.

I think I've seen Midnight's Edge's videos in my recommendations and... I honestly just ignore them because of the obnoxious "grabby" thumbnails and titles, I can't stand channels who make their thumbnails look like a gossip magazine cover unless it's a parody of those channels like HelloGreedo does.
BrashAlaskan95 wrote:
UltramanGoji wrote:I hope you plan on mounting this thing. :lol:

On my wall. ;)
I'll call it "Bob: The One Who Was skreeonk From The Start". :lol:
skreeonk scary poop though if it is just scratches.


Zilla103192 wrote:She saw Godzilla fly... And just gave up. She called bullshit, broke up with me, and just left.

User avatar
Rhedosaurus
JXSDF Technician
Posts: 819
Joined: Sat Nov 24, 2018 9:55 am

Re: General Transformers Discussion

Postby Rhedosaurus » Sat Mar 30, 2019 2:04 pm

GodzillavsZilla wrote:
Rhedosaurus wrote:No. I just have a vendetta against people who destroy franchises and prevent them from reaching their full potential.

How did Bumblebee destroy the franchise? Bayformers in general, sure (even though it could be argued those movies made the franchise more popular), but Bumblebee is a good movie. If we're talking about the producers, I have no idea what's happening with what the movie is because the news is so muddled about whether it's a prequel or a reboot. One day it's one, the other day it's the other, I just wish they would make up their minds.

I think I've seen Midnight's Edge's videos in my recommendations and... I honestly just ignore them because of the obnoxious "grabby" thumbnails and titles, I can't stand channels who make their thumbnails look like a gossip magazine cover unless it's a parody of those channels like HelloGreedo does.



No no no. I'm not saying Bumble destroyed the franchise. I'm saying that all the crappy Transformers movie made after the first one damaged/destroyed the franchise and that if they were you know...GOOD, then Bumblebee would have made a lot more money instead of so many people being burned out by Bayformers.

As for Midnight's Edge, they rarely been wrong before, as I've shown via the examples that I've listed.

User avatar
GodzillavsZilla
Moderator
Moderator
Posts: 2974
Joined: Sat Jan 01, 2011 9:45 am
Location: somewhere riding on Anguirus

Re: General Transformers Discussion

Postby GodzillavsZilla » Sat Mar 30, 2019 2:16 pm

Rhedosaurus wrote:No no no. I'm not saying Bumble destroyed the franchise. I'm saying that all the crappy Transformers movie made after the first one damaged/destroyed the franchise and that if they were you know...GOOD, then Bumblebee would have made a lot more money instead of so many people being burned out by Bayformers.

Yeah, I won't deny the Bayformers movies skreeonked the franchise (though I'd say the last two ruined it because of the huge dip in the box office comparing AoE with TLK. One made a billion, people who saw it said it sucked which most likely caused the latter to flop). Honestly though? I think Bumblebee gave me hope for the franchise, I had fun, it washed the bad taste of the previous movies out of my mouth, it felt like how I wanted a Transformers movie. I was excited for the future of the franchise.

Until I hear the rumor(?) that the next movie will be continuing off TLK...
BrashAlaskan95 wrote:
UltramanGoji wrote:I hope you plan on mounting this thing. :lol:

On my wall. ;)
I'll call it "Bob: The One Who Was skreeonk From The Start". :lol:
skreeonk scary poop though if it is just scratches.


Zilla103192 wrote:She saw Godzilla fly... And just gave up. She called bullshit, broke up with me, and just left.

Tyrant_Lizard_King
Keizer
Posts: 9363
Joined: Tue Jan 29, 2013 5:57 am
Location: The Planet Trade HQ
Contact:

Re: General Transformers Discussion

Postby Tyrant_Lizard_King » Sat Mar 30, 2019 3:05 pm

It's not. Not sure why people still think that. Though some elements of it may remain the Bayverse is DEAD!
Last edited by Tyrant_Lizard_King on Sat Mar 30, 2019 3:06 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Rocker, paleo buff, cryptid enthusiast, Dragonball fanatic, and lover of comic book, video game, manga, & anime babes!
Follow me on Twitter, if you dare! https://twitter.com/TLK_1983
Image

User avatar
Breakdown
Kwaidan
Posts: 5846
Joined: Wed Aug 25, 2010 10:42 pm
Location: Inside you

Re: General Transformers Discussion

Postby Breakdown » Sat Mar 30, 2019 4:18 pm

I don't think people where burnt out so much as they where sick of sub-par films. Bumblebee was never going to make ROTF or DOTM numbers, and expecting it to is completely unrealistic. Despite this, Bumblebee smashed expectiations and became critically and financially successful. It showed that there was very much interest in Transformers so long as they where actually GOOD. Everything past TF1 ranged from absolutely terrible (ROTF, TLK) to mediocre (AOE, DOTM).

If Hasbro wants to keep this up, they'd be wise to follow Bumblebee very closely as an example. Travis Knight would probably be my go-to man for any future sequels, and never, ever have Bay direct another entry in this series again. Also I'd take anything Lorenzo DiBonaventura with a grain of salt, he's been extremely wishy washy on the Prequel/Reboot thing and seems to change his mind every other day. I'd wait for an official statement from Hasbro.
ImageBaby free at last! Thank Megatron I'm free at last!

User avatar
xolta
Samurai
Posts: 101
Joined: Wed Feb 15, 2017 10:21 pm

Re: General Transformers Discussion

Postby xolta » Wed Apr 03, 2019 9:15 am

Image
Image

For my birthday this year I bought my self a siege Prime and Megatron. Both are super good.

User avatar
The One and Only
EDF Soldier
Posts: 3064
Joined: Fri Aug 06, 2010 8:58 pm
Location: Jamestown, PA

Re: General Transformers Discussion

Postby The One and Only » Wed Apr 03, 2019 9:47 am

"All literature is one of three stories: a man goes on a journey, a stranger comes to town, and Godzilla Vs. Megashark. "-Leo Tolstoy.

User avatar
xolta
Samurai
Posts: 101
Joined: Wed Feb 15, 2017 10:21 pm

Re: General Transformers Discussion

Postby xolta » Wed Apr 03, 2019 11:30 am

Thought that was a April fools joke!

User avatar
_JNavs_
E.S.P.Spy
Posts: 5267
Joined: Fri Jan 11, 2019 7:59 pm
Location: ニューヨーク

Re: General Transformers Discussion

Postby _JNavs_ » Wed Apr 03, 2019 11:49 am

Just picked up the Studio Series Scrapmetal, wasn't his name Scrapper in the film though?
Image
Sith Apprentice.

User avatar
GodzillaFan1990's
Keizer
Posts: 9529
Joined: Sat Jan 02, 2016 1:11 pm
Location: Canada
Contact:

Re: General Transformers Discussion

Postby GodzillaFan1990's » Wed Apr 03, 2019 12:10 pm

Do VHS players even get sold anymore?
Last edited by GodzillaFan1990's on Wed Apr 03, 2019 12:11 pm, edited 1 time in total.


Return to “Media Center”

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 1 guest